"Can you take a good picture of them for me?"

PMN said:
Why should I be charming when someone shoves their camera in my face and demands I go take photos for them? Telling them where to stick it would be mild compared to what I'd want to say.
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As I said, charmer.
 
To be honest i'm with Ruth on this - I'm as ready as the next guy to tell someone to take a flying **** at a rolling donut idf the situation warrants it , but in this case i'd just say "I'm awfully sorry, but I can't help you right now i'm too busy with my own pictures"

IMO its never a good idea to be offensive to anyone when you are working - a) it gets you a bad rep, and b) you never know when they might be a potential client
 
viv1969 said:
As I said, charmer.
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*sigh*


big soft moose said:
IMO its never a good idea to be offensive to anyone when you are working - a) it gets you a bad rep, and b) you never know when they might be a potential client
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I thought we were just talking about people knowing you're a photographer rather than when you're working? As a professional in music I'm very aware of how I come across to other people when I'm working and in that situation I agree entirely, but if someone's outright rude to me outside work then they're fair game for being told to get stuffed as far as I'm concerned.
 
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PMN said:
*sigh*




I thought we were just talking about people knowing you're a photographer rather than when you're working? As a professional in music I'm very aware of how I come across to other people when I'm working and in that situation I agree entirely, but if someone's outright rude to me outside work then they're fair game for being told to get stuffed as far as I'm concerned.
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Im sorry but even in the OP given situation ie non professional I think your reaction would be way over the top. But on the other hand, your reference to them being 'four game' possibly sums you up in a nutshell.
 
viv1969 said:
possibly sums you up in a nutshell.
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Ahh I see, you're one of those people who sits on the Internet and judges others from single lines of text. I guess having never met me and knowing nothing about me you've probably sussed me out pretty well from that one comment.

I'll leave you to enjoy your ivory tower, I hope you have fun up there.
 
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Lighten up guys.
 
May be we should all take a deep breath and may be a group :hug2: (although bagsie i'm not hugging ade)
 
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PMN said:
-takes sip of Yorkshire Gold tea and suddenly all is well again-

:lol:
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Drinking that crap will make you worse fella, get some Lancashire tea down your neck lad...............;)
 
Phil V said:
I thought the whole point of being a photographer was being able to create a photograph. I'm no David Bailey, but when someone asks me to take a picture with their P&S, if I can't get a better picture than they can it's time for me to give up :help:.

I might have minimal control over the camera, but I have more control over light (by positioning them) of the background and of their pose. If I then frame a decent shot - surely that's better than they would have done?

And the only time I'm not happy to do this with a smile is if I'm extremely busy (when I would politely decline and explain), it might just be a Northern thing, but why wouldn't you be nice to a stranger?

If someone does this and plonks themselves in crap light we can politely invite them to move somewhere more suitable (to get a good picture).

At a mates house over Christmas, one of the guests needed a headshot for a social networking site, someone gave me an iphone and said 'you're a photographer'. I took the subject to the landing, the only place in the house with a clean background and clear(ish) light, posed her and rattled off 5 frames. It's the 'best photo she ever had taken'! Seriously, it's garbage, noisy and all the other things you expect from a phone pic in lousy conditions. But no-one else in the house would have done got a shot anywhere near as good - because, apparently 'I'm a photographer';).
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This is why I said earlier in thread -
Cagey75 said:
All the time.

I'm always asked to take pictures of people at dinners or 'events' with their wee compacts. "You do photography, you'll take a great pic for us, here" and they hand over a pink compact with zero controls of any kind, and expect a miracle in a dimly lit atmosphere. You then feel like you've failed because the photo isn't crystal clear, with no noise to speak of and hasn't removed their wrinkles! Though it'll still be the best image on their card end of the night
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I'll always give it a go, and it'll possibly the best shot on their cam end of night, as I'll actually work with the lighting best I can with the given controls - but they will still, often, look at the image you've done your best to achieve and almost turn their nose at it - because... they expected pro quality, just because you're a photographer. You may get a perfectly sharp image, and allow for some noise, and maybe washy colours - but people who ask such things imagine you'll get a beautiful, crisp, clean, dslr-level image.

I think most of us here would get the image, but it's hardly going to be amazing with a poor camera. This notion that we should be able to work with whatever we're given is fair enough, providing people know the limits. The expectations are completely different.
 
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