Can you manage with JUST a 50mm prime?

I deliberately go out regularly with just my MF 50mm f 1.8 on the 400D,it really makes you concentrate on composition rather than merrily zooming away and I have come back with some really good shots as well
 
if you weren't working then I'd be tempted because it gave me a d3 to play with, but perspective control is important
 
I've just returned from a jaunt to Cyprus.

Because I like to travel light, I took my holiday camera (a D40) and just a 35mm f2.8 lens. The only other camera kit I took was a Lenspen and a small bean bag. I love working with primes as it really makes you think about composition and about your photography in general.

Came home with some extremely pleasing results and felt like a proper, creative photographer rather than an idle beggar who can't be bothered to walk backward or forwards.
 
Yes, no problem, I spent half my life nearly with a Nikon FM and 50mm, even now if I had to I could manage with just my 50mm 1.8, in fact when I bought my 500D I only bought it (body), the 50mm and an 85mm, I only added the 17-50 as I wanted something that focused closer and was a little wider for self portraits
 
we are not HCB (thankfully) and just because some over rated street photography only used one camera and lens does not mean we have to

Good to know you think HCB is an over rated street photographer. Clearly you are not HCB; and, if one may add, no chance of being one.
 
Can you guys tell I'm trying to convince myself to get a D3?!

See, I'm laying off press photography for a few months, just doing things occasionally, due to important exams.

Would get a 28-70 2.8 after that.

I figured ;)

I made the decision long ago that second hand D300's were the best price/performance for what I do, are completely adequate up to 1600 and fine for most uses at 3200, and that money could be better spent... 2 D300's and a couple of sb800s = 1 D3 (all s/h)... but then the D3 /is/ a thing of beauty ;)
 
just as well I've never tried to be him or want to but still nice to know you are still allowed to have an opinion without some arse making a stupid reply

Good to know you think HCB is an over rated street photographer. Clearly you are not HCB; and, if one may add, no chance of being one.
 
just as well I've never tried to be him or want to but still nice to know you are still allowed to have an opinion without some arse making a stupid reply



If only one could be HCB if one simply tried; life would be rather simple.

On another note, I did express my opinion to the OP; and then some arse....... Oh the irony :)
 
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Forgot to mention, how do you think we cope in everyday life considering our eyes are prime lenses :D
Yours don't zoom? :thinking:

Mine also double as macro-lenses, with focus shifted off infinity and all that comes with myopia.

And who is HCB?
 
Henri Cartier-Bresson - a proper photographer.

But I think he used lenses other just a 50mm Sonnar.

Summicron, I think. From memory, also Summar in the early days. I am sure he used 35mm as well; but usually preferred to use one focal length lens on his camera ( 50mm ), so that he could concentrate on the composition

Sonnar is a Zeiss lens; and unlike Capa, HCB didn't like Zeiss cameras.
 
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Oh yes, I totally believe you can go by with just the one lens.

If I had to choose the one, it would be either one of the 45 f/2.8 PC-E, 50 f/1.4 or the 85 f/1.4.

But my ego would suffer big time, and I may have to resort to something else for my mid-life crises hobby.
 
opinions have to based on fact not just some random abusive comment just because someone does not agree with you.

If only one could be HCB if one simply tried; life would be rather simple.

On another note, I did express my opinion to the OP; and then some arse....... Oh the irony :)
 
But I think he used lenses other just a 50mm Sonnar.

He quite liked 90mm for landscapes because it 'leaves out the bits you don't want to see' according to an interview from the 1960s that I read recently (not that you usually think of him as a landscape photographer)

Aside from the question of shooting sports, wildlife, etc. which are specialist cases...

I can see the argument that you'll miss shots if you don't have a lens of a particular length at hand.

However, the other side of that is that if you use a single length of prime lens you become accustomed to it: you know before you raise the camera to your eye how it will frame a scene, you know well the ins-and-outs of its performance at different apertures. You can anticipate a moment with greater accuracy and you'll be better at spotting those things that will suit that particular focal length.

So, you may miss a shot because you don't have a 200mm with you, but, equally, you may miss a shot that's glorious for the 50mm, right in front of your nose, because you're thinking about all those other possibilities that are open to you. It's a particular discipline that can induce you to seek opportunities that otherwise you may not have considered. Know your tools well, and use them wisely

There are many parallels in other fields of the creative arts. Nobody criticises Charlie Parker for playing only the saxophone when he could have used other instruments and made music with the other sounds available with the piano and trumpet, nor Harold Pinter for not writing musical theatre. Ludwig Mies van *** Rohe's architecture was largely about the things he chose to leave out; he worked with a limited palette of materials a very specific concept of space and produced some stunning buildings.

In photography itself, the people who choose to work with large format film field cameras miss the opportunities afforded by a digital SLR, but it allows them to explore other areas of their creativity. I know she's the subject of some debate, but Sally Mann's recent exhibition in London of her work with the collodion wet-plate process shows that you don't need to be using every trick available to you with modern technology to create significant work.

It's certainly not for everyone, but it's an approach for which I have a lot of respect and I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand.
 
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opinions have to based on fact not just some random abusive comment just because someone does not agree with you.

Sure. Your calling HCB an over rated photographer isn't abuse of course, it was based on FACT .

And BTW, you responded to my comments with abuse. Iif you are capable of it, read the thread back.

Anyways - as someone said this is going off topic. And if I have to go off topic, it has to be for a reason better than you.

So, as far as I am concerned, you are on my ignore list.
 
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Some long answers here which I can't be bothered to plough through, but why limit yourself to one lens. That is the real advantage of a SLR.

Nothing wrong with a 50mm but you would have to work pretty hard to make it for every shot.

Graham
 
I've decided to go in a completely different direction than the D3.
 
The 35mm focal length is a good choice if you only have one lens. Quite a lot of HCB's work was using the 35mm f2.8 which gives a very natural perspective.
 
So, you may miss a shot because you don't have a 200mm with you, but, equally, you may miss a shot that's glorious for the 50mm, right in front of your nose, because you're thinking about all those other possibilities that are open to you. It's a particular discipline that can induce you to seek opportunities that otherwise you may not have considered. Know your tools well, and use them wisely
I think that no matter how much glass a photographer lugs around they'll never have something that suits every occasion - indeed the more lenses you have the greater the chance they will find that they rarely have exactly the 'right' lens for whatever pointless snap they want to take.

I think working with just a single focal length would be a good discipline to practice if one is not used to it. And if you can't get pictures with it just having more kit isn't really going to help is it?
 
I think that no matter how much glass a photographer lugs around they'll never have something that suits every occasion - indeed the more lenses you have the greater the chance they will find that they rarely have exactly the 'right' lens for whatever pointless snap they want to take.

I think working with just a single focal length would be a good discipline to practice if one is not used to it. And if you can't get pictures with it just having more kit isn't really going to help is it?

I agree with that comment. We are often equipment junkies who feel the need to carry an excess of lenses with us. Just working with one body and a single fixed focal length lens does let you concentrate on the subject rather than the choice of equipment, paarticularly for things like street shots
 
Nothing wrong with using just one lens, it's just that 50mm on full-frame is too wide for me. On my film camera my default lens was always the Tamron 90mm macro (to the extent that I've lost the rubber focus grip, half the grub screws and it's covered in dents),and I've not yet found a suitable compromise for digital crop.
Most of my pics were on; in order;
90mm
300mm
21-35mm

At the most I'll only carry 1 lens on the camera and 1 in a pocket and accept some things I can't photograph, but I don't do street/people.
 
i've gone through phases of having a 50mm 1.8, 100mm 2.8 and 135 2 primes all stuck on my camera for months on end.

did i get some great shots? yes i did.
could i live with just one of the above lenses if i had to? maybe
would i want to? no way

i've only had my 70-200 f2.8 lens a couple of weeks, but already i can see just how much i was missing, a comment i made on this forum last week was pretty much... "i just couldn't believe how quickly i filled my card with keepers".

the fact that you *can* reframe in an instant means you don't miss a shot (or have less chance of doing so) if i have to get up and move 6 feet to get the framing i want, the expression, smile whatever is gone forever.

a fast prime will always have a place in my bag. i love my 135 f2. but there are times where it is appropriate and times where a zoom is better. it's choosing the right tool for the job, and sometimes where there isn't quite the right tool, a good all-round compromise.

that is until canon do a 8mm-300mm f1.2, razor sharp throughout the range, no distortion or CA and only weights 600g. ;-)
 
I love photographing children and often use the 50mm f1.8 ("Nifty Fifty") indoors because I often simply don't have time to use a zoom and continually have to re-focus - you can often miss a great shot:




These two shots were taken with several others in about a 1-2 minute timeframe and I would certainly have missed them if I was fiddling about trying to zoom in and re-focus etc.

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that is until canon do a 8mm-300mm f1.2, razor sharp throughout the range, no distortion or CA and only weights 600g. ;-)

And don't forget it has to be razor sharp throughout the range, have internal focussing, super fast AF and 5-6 stops of IS.

And cost no more than a grand!

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And cost no more than a grand!

You'd be lucky to a prime for that. Have you seen the price of an 85L lately? :D

or a 50mm f/1.2L for that matter, keeping it on topic as it's a thread about 50mm ;)
 
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I recently spent the day shooting with a 100mm macro and never missed anything however I was not shooting lanscape or sports or nature. Had I seen some landscape shot I would have had to change lens.
 
.. it was good enough for cartier bresson.... in many peoples eyes the greatest photographer ever...

OK - it was a leica - but I believe he only ever owned a 50mm

(sorry - didn't see the posts on page two!)
 
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I use a 50mm on my D90 as a walkabout lens more often than not, wide angle shots are easy these days with stiching software and for close ups I have used the Raynox add on lenses, it's also a good inside lens too boot.

Must admit that wildlife may prove a challenge though. :lol:
 
50mm on a full frame? sure! In fact I think its very good practice!

It was the "standard" lens on film cameras for years. I still have a Mk1 50mm 1.8 which came with my EOS620 (which I also still have). I used that and the 70-210 f4 for years. In fact, I have some very good work on the 620 & 50mm.

With a 1.6 crop you really need the 35mm to get the same effect as a 50mm is more like a 70mm when compared to FF. Good exercise though and would be worth doing.

Steve
 
Agree with other comments that it's a daft question. You could manage with any lens if you had to, doesn't mean it makes sense to do so.

The other argument is about it making you think about composition. I agree with that BUT this is true of using any prime lens, so I'd recommend getting several primes.

With zooms, great though they are, most people typically shoot 90% at either extremes of the lens, so a 24-70 or a 24 and a 70?
 
Well if I had to manage with just one lens, particularly on a full frame camera, my choice might well be a 50mm... as fast a one as I could get. You'd get the full FOV of the lens, all those fantastic available/low light opportunities, the shallow DOF option for isolating subjects, and you could certainly tackle most street, cansdid, portrait, and many landscape type shots.

Why have you changed your mind from the D3?
 
Sure you can manage.
You just have to look at how many manual 35mm cameras you see for sale, in collections etc wearing a 50mm to see that only having a 50mm was once the norm.
But begs the question, why?
The op asked about a 50mm and a D3 so money is presumably not the issue.
Nor weight, or size.
 
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