Can you leave your wife behind?

MWHCVT said:
I really don't see what the issue is here, you were asked to go to a cash point while your wife stayed at the pub, really what on earth is the big deal, I've had it where I've been at a restaurant and the same thing happen to me, this is the biggest non issue ever, I guess maybe his attitude or manner may have been off but there are only so many ways you can ask someone to do that, hell I once had to leave my car and walk down the road to a cash machine because the petrol stations card machine was non operational, have you ever been in that pub before, are you a regular someone that they would know is going to come back?
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It wouldn't be TP OOF without a few drama queens :D
 
gramps said:
Poor staff attitude but all credit to the manager surely?
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+1

Good decision by the manager IMO. Would be more than happy with an apology and the meal fee being waived.

That would be enough to keep my custom if it was somewhere I went regularly.
 
Anthony.Ralph said:
[c] there needs to be a fall-back ability to take credit card payments if the wifi goes down...
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I find this odd.

I know for a fact most chains are able to deal with card payments manually.

One example is a widely used service called streamline. It's all automated by phone, you type in your merchant number, their card no, expiry date and cost of purchase. It then gives you the authorisation code (and also effectively holds the money aside in their account).

When the tills / reader are back online the transactions are put through with the auth number. A lot more to it than that, but it does work when the tills / card readers are offline. Must be plenty of other similar systems out there.

*sigh* am on girlfriends iPad and meant to post this from my account!
 
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tashj20 said:
I find this odd.

I know for a fact most chains are able to deal with card payments manually.

One example is a widely used service called streamline. It's all automated by phone, you type in your merchant number, their card no, expiry date and cost of purchase. It then gives you the authorisation code (and also effectively holds the money aside in their account).

When the tills / reader are back online the transactions are put through with the auth number. A lot more to it than that, but it does work when the tills / card readers are offline. Must be plenty of other similar systems out there.
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Indeedeo. They should also have the old carbonated slips and mechanical swipe machine which again needs telephone auth.
 
MWHCVT said:
I really don't see what the issue is here, you were asked to go to a cash point while your wife stayed at the pub, really what on earth is the big deal, I've had it where I've been at a restaurant and the same thing happen to me
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The issue is simple and I'm surprised you can't understand it.

The wife did not want to be left on her own. That's it. So why should she? The bartender persisted.

It's about personal safety. My wife would not want to be left in a bar /restaurant on her own at night either. She would feel vulnerable and uncomfortable and unsafe.

Is that not easy to understand?
 
joescrivens said:
The issue is simple and I'm surprised you can't understand it.

The wife did not want to be left on her own. That's it. So why should she? The bartender persisted.

It's about personal safety. My wife would not want to be left in a bar /restaurant on her own at night either. She would feel vulnerable and uncomfortable and unsafe.

Is that not easy to understand?
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From reading the OP the bartender asked, he wasn't forcing anyone to stay anywhere.

Unless you live in Beirut I'm really not sure what the problem with willingly waiting at a bar in a pub/restaurant for 10 mins is.

Either way it doesn't really matter because the OP had a positive outcome so I'm really not sure why people are getting so tetchy over this?
 
neil_g said:
From reading the OP the bartender asked, he wasn't forcing anyone to stay anywhere.

Unless you live in Beirut I'm really not sure what the problem with willingly waiting at a bar in a pub/restaurant for 10 mins is.

Either way it doesn't really matter because the OP had a positive outcome so I'm really not sure why people are getting so tetchy over this?
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I was pretty sure I used the word "persisted" not "forced" will double check my post.

Who are you to judge whether someone should feel comfortable or not on their own in a bar/restaurant?
 
joescrivens said:
I was pretty sure I used the word "persisted" not "forced" will double check my post.

Who are you to judge whether someone should feel comfortable or not on their own in a bar/restaurant?
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Okay the op mentioned leaving someone behind once, hardly persisting.
 
MWHCVT said:
... hell I once had to leave my car and walk down the road to a cash machine because the petrol stations card machine was non operational....
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Not an option when I stupidly left my wallet at home before filling up, so left them my name and address and sent a cheque. As they had my car reg then there was little risk on their part, and I would also have been on CCTV.
 
Sweet baby jesus and the orphans. Joe, can you argue in an empty room? :p
 
neil_g said:
From reading the OP the bartender asked, he wasn't forcing anyone to stay anywhere.

Unless you live in Beirut I'm really not sure what the problem with willingly waiting at a bar in a pub/restaurant for 10 mins is.
Either way it doesn't really matter because the OP had a positive outcome so I'm really not sure why people are getting so tetchy over this?
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That's nonsense. Personally I wouldn't have a problem alone in that situation, but I know people who most certainly would. It has nothing at all to do with the neighbourhood or indeed country you're in, but rather with personal ease & confidence.
 
as much as i sympathise with the original posters frustrations, if i was in the same situation i cant help thinking that i would have not returned for the wife lol.... but maybe your wife isnt as bad as my potential one.... lol

i would have left her to do the washing up instead!!
 
joescrivens said:
And my second question?
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I'd imagine at some point your wife would've had to be on her own for 10 mins at some point anyway while you had a poo so would be used to it?

Seriously though presuming its at a busy dinner period I'm pretty sure waiting at a bar is not going to cause anyone distress. Unlike a hostage situation. Or waiting in a dark car park.
 
viv1969 said:
That's nonsense. Personally I wouldn't have a problem alone in that situation, but I know people who most certainly would. It has nothing at all to do with the neighbourhood or indeed country you're in, but rather with personal ease & confidence.
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So out of interest they'd never go out anywhere in public on their own?
 
tezmed said:
as much as i sympathise with the original posters frustrations, if i was in the same situation i cant help thinking that i would have not returned for the wife lol.... but maybe your wife isnt as bad as my potential one.... lol

i would have left her to do the washing up instead!!
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Your potential one????? Christ, why even bother??? :lol:
 
neil_g said:
I'd imagine at some point your wife would've had to be on her own for 10 mins at some point anyway while you had a poo so would be used to it?

Seriously though presuming its at a busy dinner period I'm pretty sure waiting at a bar is not going to cause anyone distress. Unlike a hostage situation. Or waiting in a dark car park.
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No, I brew it up and wait till I get home

An woman on her own might not feel safe, why are you not respecting that? Everyone is different.
 
neil_g said:
So out of interest they'd never go out anywhere in public on their own?
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You are really labouring this point. Woman dressed up on her own in a bar among potential drunk letchy men is not the same as just "going out in public"
 
neil_g said:
So out of interest they'd never go out anywhere in public on their own?
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Yes Neil....to satisfy you interest, I know one lady who will not be out alone, in any situation. Are you suggesting that because of this fear she should not be permitted to go out at all? Please enlighten us with your progressive views. :cuckoo:
 
viv1969 said:
Yes Neil....to satisfy you interest, I know one lady who will not be out alone, in any situation. Are you suggesting that because of this fear she should not be permitted to go out at all? Please enlighten us with your progressive views. :cuckoo:
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Where did I say that, was a genuine question.
 
viv1969 said:
Yes Neil....to satisfy you interest, I know one lady who will not be out alone, in any situation. Are you suggesting that because of this fear she should not be permitted to go out at all? Please enlighten us with your progressive views. :cuckoo:
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What? I think he was saying that if she can't feel safe being alone in a bar she wouldn't feel safe going out on her own. I don't think Neil was suggesting she shouldn't be let out, rather her irrational fear would prevent her...
 
neil_g said:
Where did I say that, was a genuine question.
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Yes Neil, in post #58 you asked the question like you couldn't believe it was possible.
 
viv1969 said:
Yes Neil, in post #58 you asked the question like you couldn't believe it was possible.
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It is incredibly irrational... I can't believe there are people out there like that but there you go!
 
rssmrry said:
It is incredibly irrational... I can't believe there are people out there like that but there you go!
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That's why it's called a phobia :shrug:
 
rssmrry said:
I personally don't see the problem...?
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I didn't say it was a problem, I just chose to disagree the option given to me.
Have a nice day.
 
neil_g said:
To achieve what? The manager dealt with it the correct way.
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no he didn't.

The manager failed in the first place for letting the employee suggest such a thing.

Maybe you'd be happy with that outcome. I wouldn't. I'd be gunning for some training of mgt and staff, and a free lunch! (due to embarressment caused etc etc)
 
joescrivens said:
The issue is simple and I'm surprised you can't understand it.

The wife did not want to be left on her own. That's it. So why should she? The bartender persisted.

It's about personal safety. My wife would not want to be left in a bar /restaurant on her own at night either. She would feel vulnerable and uncomfortable and unsafe.

Is that not easy to understand?
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Good let's hope you never have to go to the toilet for a few minutes, the OP and wife were more than happy to eat in the pub/bar/restaurant, I don't think any normal person would go and spend time eating in a place where they felt any concern in being there, and frankly if they're that concerned I'd be surprised that they can leave the house without supervision at all times...
 
MWHCVT said:
Good let's hope you never have to go to the toilet for a few minutes,
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If you can't see the difference between going to the toilet within an establishment for a few minutes and leaving said establishment for who knows how long it takes to get to a cash point that might be several miles away then I can no longer converse with you on the matter.
 
joescrivens said:
If you can't see the difference between going to the toilet within an establishment for a few minutes and leaving said establishment for who knows how long it takes to get to a cash point that might be several miles away then I can no longer converse with you on the matter.
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I don't know that many chain establishments that I've ever ate in that are more than five minutes from a cash point, the reality is that the way that your portraying it is my eyes is so over dramatic beyond reason, would you honestly eat somewhere that is so unsafe/hostile that you wouldn't leave your partner for a few minutes????
 
MWHCVT said:
I don't know that many chain establishments that I've ever ate in that are more than five minutes from a cash point, the reality is that the way that your portraying it is my eyes is so over dramatic beyond reason, would you honestly eat somewhere that is so unsafe/hostile that you wouldn't leave your partner for a few minutes????
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nope - but why should anyone have the right to ask for 1 to stay behind and the other to go get cash because their tills were f***ed?

I would have left details and walked out... (with wife!)
 
MWHCVT said:
I don't know that many chain establishments that I've ever ate in that are more than five minutes from a cash point, the reality is that the way that your portraying it is my eyes is so over dramatic beyond reason, would you honestly eat somewhere that is so unsafe/hostile that you wouldn't leave your partner for a few minutes????
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A) the conversation has moved on from specifics from the op. we're talking generically about the situation so a cash point could be far away.

B) there is a harvester near me which is 6 miles from a cash point

C) it's not whether I would feel unhappy about it, it's up to the girl. If they don't feel comfortable being left in that situation then that's their prerogative, stop being so judgemental, not everyone is happy about being left on their own in a bar/restaurant of an evening while you leave the venue for who knows how long.
 
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And as usual the TP spirit kicks in with even the most simplest of topics.

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