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I think it’s a good idea to make such a database but how accurate the information is?

http://www.olegkikin.com/shutterlife/

Shall we implement such a thing for members of this forum so we can vote and figure out some practical experience and perhaps we can get more valid data?


Based on My experience:

Nikon D40 - 24 000 clicks
Nikon D200 - 16 000 clicks
Nikon D80 - 8 000 clicks
Nikon D90 - 18 000
Nikon D700 - 18 000
Nikon D90 - 2600

All the cameras are still alive.
 
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Not sure if it would measure up to your SMART objective.

The figures are pretty meaningless IMHO:shrug:

Paul
 
We're not really a large enough group to give meaningful data, it might work if a few sites worked together though, might be nice to bridge some political rifts that way too :)


OP, do you mean none of yours have failed? I was intitially shocked at your list :)
 
Taztastic said:
Not sure if it would measure up to your SMART objective.

The figures are pretty meaningless IMHO:shrug:

Paul
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Based on the information from the database I mentioned above some cameras have more than 400 000 clicks and they are still alive. If there are some members who can confirm that they have done so many clicks (and they still can type :lol:) perhaps I will believe that it was valid information.

Also, I think it can be useful for people who buy used cameras. So they can analyse their risks based on more or less valid data. For example according to Nikon their average for D90 is about 100 000. But I think average of the forum members will be more accurate and valid data.
 
i do find it hard to believe that a Canon 400d has done over 1,000,000 clicks... me thinks someones telling porkies
 
SparkUK said:
We're not really a large enough group to give meaningful data, it might work if a few sites worked together though, might be nice to bridge some political rifts that way too :)


OP, do you mean none of yours have failed? I was intitially shocked at your list :)
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Yep. They are still in good working order. At least they were when I was selling them. One socking thing is when people see that I sold D200 and bought D80. But I did not regret about it. I liked both of the cameras. D80 is just more portable and it didn't eat too much battery power as my D200 did. But you have to pay in terms of speed and autofocus.

A photo I took before I sold my last set:

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I think Nikon has to send me a Nikon mug.:lol:
 
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Shutters break sometimes, I think there are too many things to factor, sports shooters against Landscape shooters, that sort of stuff.

Use it till it breaks, have backups and be insured.

There are no guarantees in any aspect of life and statistics are based in the past.
 
Hmm, it could be valid data, but one camera at 400, 000 skews the data, same with a camera that is DOA.

I think Canon also quote around 100,000 for the 40D, I have one at 8450ish, it may pack up on the next shot, it may out live me, is was the right price and not to used, my car with 70k miles in two years has not had front tyres or brake pads to date, my brothers at 24k has, which is the better car?

Cameras are subject to, too many variables, for the count to make sense, what may be a better indicator, if we knew that the shutter mechanisms across different models were the same, that would give far more data to work with.

Also, what actually causes failure, would be interesting.

Paul
 
PerfectSpeed said:
There are no guarantees in any aspect of life and statistics are based in the past.
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That is the whole point of statistics though, which essentially allows you to use the law of averages to help increase your odds against freak and unknown occurrences.
 
some of those submitting the data have got to be telling porkies!
 
87% of all statistics are made up!

23% of people know that :)
 
I looked at that site a few years ago for my 30D and thought 2 million clicks on a camera was a lot, now if it comes on the second hand market I'm not going to bid on the 1Ds mkIII that has done 8,388,607 clicks, I don't care how cheap it sells for I don't want it :lol:
 
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I have two 40D's, one has done approx 69,000 and the other 400

Not sure what use those figures would be to anyone and only any good if you give the number the day it goes for a burton and then get an average

Don't suppose many people use a camera till it dies, mind you I do that with cars, only had two since 1987
 
I did over 45000 shots on my 300d, it's still going strong used by next doors daughter.

I put 47000 shots through my 40D over approx 18 months and the shutter broke.

I'm upto around 35000 on my 50d so far.
 
Tirpitz said:
87% of all statistics are made up!

23% of people know that :)
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Someone has to go back to school for addition classes.

I'm not sure it makes sense gathering the survival data. Failure data makes a lot of sense and that's likely what the producers of shutter mechanisms do.
 
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The OP has posted a list of camera actuations but those cameras all still work, you would need a very large number of cameras with actuations and including the number of actuations at failure to even start to get a picture.

I have 2 digital cameras now, a D700 on 7K ish and a D300 on 1K ish but neither have failed. My D200 has gone to my son for his A level photography course and it had 14K actuations but again it hadn't failed either.

So basically none of the above is relevant.
 
scottthehat said:
eos 1ds mk111
12) Submitted by fotoman
Clicks: 8,388,607
Shutter still alive:yes

in his dreams.
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There's a canon-featured stop motion photographer/cinematographer who has a couple of million clicks on all of his 1Dx bodies and hasn't had shutter replacements for any yet... so it could be feasible...

Everyone should just submit their own data to the site linked, rather than making our own, inferior, smaller data set etc here...
 
and i've had the same brush for 20 years.......... it's had 5 new handles and 9 new heads in that time :lol:
 
Cistron said:
Someone has to go back to school for addition classes.

I'm not sure it makes sense gathering the survival data. Failure data makes a lot of sense and that's likely what the producers of shutter mechanisms do.
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OR, someone needs to remember that the 2 sets aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, the sets are totally different; one refers to the number of statistics and the other to the number of people believing that "fact".

In this house, there is one person who uses cameras. In this house, 1 person uses Nikons and one person uses Canons. That person is the same person who uses Nikon SLRs and a Canon compact.
 
Oh. and to add my (irrelevant to this study since all are still alive!) data, D70, ~8000 actuations. D700, ~6500. Both probably underestimations based on the camera given file numbers. FlickR used to give actual actuations but no longer seems to do so.
 
Nod said:
OR, someone needs to remember that the 2 sets aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, the sets are totally different; one refers to the number of statistics and the other to the number of people believing that "fact".

In this house, there is one person who uses cameras. In this house, 1 person uses Nikons and one person uses Canons. That person is the same person who uses Nikon SLRs and a Canon compact.
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Fair enough. Suppose I tried to be ueber-smart, ha?

Btw, is there a way to submit data to this page?

edit: Oh yes, at the bottom of the list.
 
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If anyone has a mac and nikon camera then you can see your actuations using my last tip in the top tips thread. See my sig.

It does show a number for canons but I suspect the figure is not accurate.
 
Nod said:
OR, someone needs to remember that the 2 sets aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, the sets are totally different; one refers to the number of statistics and the other to the number of people believing that "fact".
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yep, you got it :thumbs: :lol:

12 0ut of 10 cameras i have are still working just fine :naughty:
 
I think shutter failures is just one of those things; unpredictable but not unexpected. It's probably bigged up more than it should be and is dependant on many factors to either hit (and exceed) the quoted specs, or fail without warning much earlier than expected.

Nice idea though - hopefully we can see figures that back up and exceed the manufacturer's claims :)
 
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