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Hi everyone
Just this minute joined up, I have a little point and shoot camera (a samsung d1070) and I left it in my car on saturday night ready for the morning where the tempreture was maybe -3degrees at the lowest. Turned it on on sunday to find it just gives very white photo with lines across. So I put it on in the car the floor with the heater on it as I thought it was just cold still but it didnt help at all.
When I got home that night I tired it again in artifical 'low light' and it seemed to easily blur but no white lines etc now?

I know you guys are probably laughing at my crappy little camera but it does me ok and I really want it working again. So if have any ideas of how I can fix it or how much to repair it then that would be great

Thanks for reading
Dave
 
i don't know the answer to your problem. but if i was you i would take it to your local camera shop and see what they have to say.

i have a feeling that the extreams of temp may not have helped you at all maybe try leaving it at normal room temp for a while and see if that makes any differece
 
Yeah I brought it in sunday evening and testing it again and its still the same. Perhaps it needs longer though.

Another point I forgot to add is that it still videos just as normal??

Here is some examples of photos it takes, first two are around lunchtime yesturday, third is yesturday evening at around 7.30pm when it had been inside for a couple of hours.

1
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2
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/7502/sdc11834.jpg

3 - Being held steady on a chair, lighting is 3 spot lights but I guess its still not very bright in there
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Thanks for your reply gumbo
 
I'd leave in your house for a few days at room temp and try it again. Maybe just have some condensation or something causing an issue.

Failing that it's a trip to camera shop i think
 
nope no idea..some one on here may be able to help but apart from saying take to an expert i don't know..
 
Ok thanks, I just thought it was odd that it works ok in low light conditions and on video.

How much does it cost roughly for someone just to have a look? As Im aware its not worth spending a fortune on if there rates are high.

Cant seem to find one for sale in an online shop, but on ebay theres one in pink second hand for £40
 
Specialized said:
I know you guys are probably laughing at my crappy little camera
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People here aren't that childish :) Some of my best pics have been taken with a VERY basic little PnS camera, btw.

It looks to me like the sensor is knackered, but as someone mentioned condensation might have affected it. Try sitting it in a jar of rice (remove batteries) for a few days to see if it dries out. If not I'd suggest that it's buggered, unfortunately.

Depending on its age and performance specifications, you may be able to claim back on the warranty. I'm sure you know what I mean, that little bit of text that states operating temperature between -5 and 50 degrees etc.
 
Take it along to Jessops or another cheaper local camera repair shop. They sometimes offer a free 'check-up'.
 
I would try taking the battery and memory card out and leaving it with all the holes open for a day or two.

And the same with the battery and mem card.

You could have some moisture on the electronics.
 
As you say it is OK in low light and looking at the 2 shots. It looks like gross overexposure.
 
I can't see the shots, but I can maybe offer a suggestion

First one is totake the battery & memory card out, put it down and leave it alone for a couple of days at room temperature. Don't be tempted to check if it is OK too soon - just leave it be.

It could be the electronics that control the aperture have got a little condensation in them - and it is not stopping down properly. This would explain why it works better in low light as it wouldn't try to stop down.

If it is condensation once it dries out everything should just start working again. But it will take a while as the innards of the camera don't get the airflow required to dry stuff any quicker. MIght help if you leave the batters and memory doors open?
 
Exif IFD0

* Camera Make = SAMSUNG TECHWIN CO., LTD.
* Camera Model = Samsung D1070
* Picture Orientation = normal (1)
* X-Resolution = 96/3 ===> 32
* Y-Resolution = 96/3 ===> 32
* X/Y-Resolution Unit = inch (2)
* Software / Firmware Version = 0.a500;€
* Last Modified Date/Time = 2010:02:21 13:23:30
* Y/Cb/Cr Positioning (Subsampling) = co-sited / datum point (2)
* Copyright Owner = Copyright 2008

Exif Sub IFD

* Exposure Time (1 / Shutter Speed) = 1/61 second ===> 0.01639 second
* Lens F-Number / F-Stop = 30/10 ===> ƒ/3
* Exposure Program = normal program (2)
* ISO Speed Ratings = 50
* Exif Version = 0221
* Original Date/Time = 2010:02:21 13:23:30
* Digitization Date/Time = 2010:02:21 13:23:30
* Components Configuration = 0x01,0x02,0x03,0x00 / YCbCr
* Compressed Bits per Pixel = 18672976/9980928 ===> 1.87
* Shutter Speed Value (APEX) = 5907/1000
Shutter Speed (Exposure Time) = 1/60 second
* Aperture Value (APEX) = 3170/1000
Aperture = ƒ/3
* Exposure Bias (EV) = 0/100 ===> 0
* Max Aperture Value (APEX) = 2971/1000 ===> 2.97
Max Aperture = ƒ/2.8
* Metering Mode = multi-spot (4)
* Light Source / White Balance = unknown (0)
* Flash = Flash did not fire
* Focal Length = 6300/1000 mm ===> 6.3 mm

* FlashPix Version = 0100
* Colour Space = sRGB (1)
* Image Width = 3648 pixels
* Image Height = 2736 pixels
* Image Sensing Method = one-chip color area sensor (2)
* Image Source = digital still camera (DSC)
* Scene Type = directly photographed image
* Exposure Mode = auto exposure (0)
* White Balance = auto (0)
* Digital Zoom Ratio = 100/100 ===> 1
* Scene Capture Type = standard (0)
* Contrast = hard (2)
* Saturation = normal (0)
* Sharpness = normal (0)


The exif data points to it losing the white balance setting
 
Try putting it in a box with a packet of silica gel, The one that comes with your camera,
 
Ric Type R said:
Try putting it in a box with a packet of silica gel, The one that comes with your camera,
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Will only work if the silica gel is brand new - an old packet will be no use. They only last a few days when they are exposed to the elements.
 
As above… batteries out, card out, leave it somewhere warm for a few days then use the reset function if it has one and if you have a spare card try that too.

If the problem is still there then it does sound like the damp may have gotten to it.:'(
 
RichardtheSane said:
Will only work if the silica gel is brand new - an old packet will be no use. They only last a few days when they are exposed to the elements.
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They only need put in an oven @ 120C for a couple of hours to make them good again
 
Have you inadvertently changed the exposure mode ? check its set to auto exposure
 
A very similar thing happend to my sisters PnS, it turned out to be a damaged sensor
 
We have a olympus waterproof & sony pns I managed to
mix them up and placed the sony in a bowl of fresh water,
as recommended, to remove the salt :bonk: I removed
the battery and memory card & hung the camera on the
balcony, we were in Turkey at the time, 10 days later I tried
it out and the photos came out with a white blurry patch
so I tried it with the original memory card that was supplied
with the camera when I bought it, hey presto problem solved
worth trying
 
Silica gel can be "recharged" in a microwave oven but just watch how long you leave it in for, put it on some newspaper and you'll feel the moisture come out of the gel onto the paper, repeat several times until no more moisture is present on the paper. As for getting it repaired, I took a camera to Wilkinsons a few weeks ago to be told it would cost £60 just to look at it, then any repairs on top of that minus the £60 if more but the guy in the shop said that I could get a far better spec camera than the one I had (which cost £400) for circa £160 which made a repair uneconomical but there you go we live in a throwaway society. Good luck which ever path you take.
 
Right sorry I havent been back on here till now
Thank you all for your replies.

As you suggested its sat since Tuesday on the radiator with a towel doubled up beneath it, so was walm without the risk of damaging. I did maybe think that somehow having the 3 'doors' open would help so did that on maybe thursday.

Still wasnt working so just this minute tryed resetting it, but still no joy.

So do you think Ive done enough to safely say that there isnt any moisture in it or shall I try the rice thing?
How much is it worth spending on this camera if I were to take it to a repair shop?

Thanks again for your help everyone


Edit: Sorry dark star, Ill have a read of the rules now
 
Try the rice if you want but it's probably cream crackered. Sorry...
 
If you can get a s/h replacement for £40, that seems to be the route to take. It may be covered on your car or house insurance.
 
try the rice thing, but i dont think its going to work.... the camera should be dried out now.... as said above, if you cant get another one for £40, then go for it
 
Took it into a local camera repair shop, will cost 65 to repair.
Just said I would think about it untill I heard what you guys think?
 
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