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Hi guys,
I'm at a quandary with my photography of where I want to go and how I'm going to be producing that.
I started off many moons ago with a canon 400 and then onto the Nikon d5000, moved on to the heaviest of huge and heavy D700 and then on to the d750 and now onto the Fuji.
I fell out of the excitement of photography with the Nikon's and canons and sold my d750 and bought a Fuji XT2 of which I'm finding although some images are lovely it's no where near as good as the D750 in terms of AF and reliability. I do suffer a little from shaky hands nothing major but certainly means I can't shoot lower than 80 hand held. So I'm thinking if selling the Fuji gear now XT2, 56mm lens and 18mm lens and moving on to something else but the question is what.

Wanted to share my ramblings
 
If I read it right, you're looking for D750 performance in a small body. Not sure you're getting it sadly if the XT2 doesn't float your boat.

High end Sony, perhaps? But then, $$$.
 
Did you need to start a new thread? we all know you're not gonna be happy until you've dropped £10k on a Leica SL :)
 
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Ian W said:
If I read it right, you're looking for D750 performance in a small body. Not sure you're getting it sadly if the XT2 doesn't float your boat.

High end Sony, perhaps? But then, $$$.
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Actually I'm not sure a small body is key anymore, although its nice to have the smaller body I'm not adverse to lugging around a bigger camera if it does what I want or need it to
viewfromthenorth said:
What do you think another change of camera will give you, beyond the initial thrill of having a new toy?
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It will give me the images I want or need hopefully. Better AF less s*** photos. Well ideally.
 
rjbell said:
Did you need to start a new thread? we all know you're not gonna be happy until you've dropped £10k on a Leica SL :)
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Probably but I wanted to document my journey. I dont have 10k to spend on the leica, or anything else for that matter. Need to be sensible rather than totally frivolous
 
Nuzik said:
Probably but I wanted to document my journey. I dont have 10k to spend on the leica, or anything else for that matter. Need to be sensible rather than totally frivolous
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I can't see any mirrorless being any better AF than the xt2.
 
What are you wanting to shoot? Landscapes? Use a decent tripod with whatever kit you end up with. Kids running around? Revisit the D750, up the ISO and live with the (minimal) noise.
 
Nuzik said:
Actually I'm not sure a small body is key anymore, although its nice to have the smaller body I'm not adverse to lugging around a bigger camera if it does what I want or need it to

It will give me the images I want or need hopefully. Better AF less s*** photos. Well ideally.
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So what were you hoping the XT2 would do that the D750 couldn't? Would another D750 be the solution? Or are you looking for some feature that neither camera has?
 
Yeah go back to the d750 and think of it as lesson learned.
 
I'm the opposite, I feel completely relieved after offloading my Nikon gear and buying a Fuji. Photography is back to being fun again. I couldn't give a monkey's about teensy differences in IQ or AF speeds. I want something that's nice to hold and shoot with, and gives pleasing results without much fuss, the XT-1 i doing that for me at least. I feel freer when I take it out, I don't feel like some big buffoon with a huge camera and lens when I take the kids for walks, I blend in, nobody pays any heed to me using this neater little package.

Some will never be satisfied no matter the gear IMHO.

And Leica ... pffft ... over priced waffle. I have seen some reviewers say that Fuji lenses out shine Leica lenses that are sometimes 10 times the price. And the cameras are like what Leica should have done with digital
 
Nawty said:
The thing is, it seems like you're spending all your time thinking about gear, not photography. They are rather different things.
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This.

I'm sure we could all spend the next day or two recommending the gear that we use. Or are we trying to solve the wrong problem here?
 
viewfromthenorth said:
This.

I'm sure we could all spend the next day or two recommending the gear that we use. Or are we trying to solve the wrong problem here?
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Honesty I think it's a bit of both. GAS, and losing the mojo a bit maybe. It happens us all.
 
Nuzik said:
From what? I've taken over 2k of photos since having the Fuji in a month. I'd say that's good.
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And I've probably made a few hundred cups of tea but that doesn't mean I necessarily enjoy making it for myself. I do however enjoy having a cup of tea in bed in the morning, it gets me ready for the day ahead and provides a small caffeine boost to get me started. I do however enjoy making my wife a cup of tea as I know she enjoys it and appreciates it.

Point being is that I enjoy the output and/or I enjoy doing something for other people, and that makes getting up in the cold and dark to put the kettle on worthwhile. It doesn't mean I spend hours with the Argos catalogue wondering which kettle to buy.

And, if I didn't like tea I wouldn't own a kettle.
 
Nawty said:
And I've probably made a few hundred cups of tea but that doesn't mean I necessarily enjoy making it for myself. I do however enjoy having a cup of tea in bed in the morning, it gets me ready for the day ahead and provides a small caffeine boost to get me started. I do however enjoy making my wife a cup of tea as I know she enjoys it and appreciates it.

Point being is that I enjoy the output and/or I enjoy doing something for other people, and that makes getting up in the cold and dark to put the kettle on worthwhile. It doesn't mean I spend hours with the Argos catalogue wondering which kettle to buy.

And, if I didn't like tea I wouldn't own a kettle.
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Coffee machine....
 
frod said:
I'd say that's unsustainably high. How many were keepers? Have you considered trying film?
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It's new Frod so usually it's testing and enjoyment, once last the testing side it's going to be less.
Keepers... Check out my flickr for my best do I keep any more.... Yeah as I've been to lazy to delete any currently.
 
frod said:
I'd say that's unsustainably high. How many were keepers? Have you considered trying film?
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Depends on the tog and what they're shooting tbh. For example sports and wildlife togs tend to rattle off a lot of shots in one go (a guy at the YWP today had a 1Dx, I think, sounded like a machine gun with that fps).

I wouldn't suggest film for Neil as he has to keep his shutter speed up (and therefore often ISO up) and he hates noise/grain ;)
 
Neil I feel for you as most of us have lost our mojo at some point or another. However, unfortunately no gear will fill that void. Or let me rephrase that, no gear can fill that void for a prolonged period.

I would recommend thinking about what equipment you need for your needs and then focus (excuse the pun) on why you're not enjoying things and trying to work on that rather than what gear you think can get you out of the rut.

I did say you'll probably end up regretting getting rid of the D750 for the Fooj, but I guess you had to get it out of your system ;) My recommendation would be to suck it up and get another D750 as it's the best all rounder (IMO) at a 'reasonable' price. I'd recommend the 5D4 too as it's pretty much a match for the D750 in terms of IQ (give or take) but supposedly has better AF and you get to use the lovely Canon glass. However, it's very very expensive. Last option would be the D810. Would suit your super critical eye for sharpness (hi res and no aa filter) and build is more akin to the D700 you had (although still not quite as tank like). Only thing is that the grip isn't as comfortable (for me) as the D750, but you might like it.

After that put £20/month to one side and after 20 years you might be able to afford an SL and some lenses ;)
 
Nawty said:
That rather makes my point.
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Not really sure your point was overly well made.
I have a kettle for multiple purposes, quicker way of boiling water than a pan, which is good for pasta and eggs for example. You can make hot chocolates, teas and coffee to name a few hot drinks. Because you chose to drink only tea in the morning that's your choice, which would then say do you need a £4 kettle as its got very little use such as a cheap ASDA one or do you buy a £150 kitchen aid as you like to have something that looks good maybe lasts longer and will have a concealed element.
 
Nuzik said:
Not really sure your point was overly well made.
I have a kettle for multiple purposes, quicker way of boiling water than a pan, which is good for pasta and eggs for example. You can make hot chocolates, teas and coffee to name a few hot drinks. Because you chose to drink only tea in the morning that's your choice, which would then say do you need a £4 kettle as its got very little use such as a cheap ASDA one or do you buy a £150 kitchen aid as you like to have something that looks good maybe lasts longer and will have a concealed element.
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The point is that throwing technology at something doesn't necessarily make the process or the output more enjoyable or better. Water boiled in a £4 kettle is the same as water boiled in a £100 kettle, how your tea tastes is down to how you make it, if you like it's the artistic aspect of making tea.

Focussing on the kettle distracts from the fact that if you don't like tea, you don't like tea.
 
Seems like some folk feel that mirrorless - esp Fuji - will give them everything they had in a big full frame DSLR but at a smaller size, weight and price point.
It will, at least for the vast majority of amateur hobbyists. But, and it's a big but, it's just like any new system in any field. You have to take time to learn and understand how it works.
Saying I've bought a Fuji and all will be simple because I can use a Nikon is a fallacy.
It's the same but different and if you can't, or won't, put the effort into learning how the system works then you probably won't be happy even if you get the Leica that you seem to crave.
Stonking good photos have always been taken even when the quality of gear was a fraction of what we see nowadays.
Of course, if you have incurable GAS, then nothing anyone says will be of any help to you.
 
Nawty said:
The point is that throwing technology at something doesn't necessarily make the process or the output more enjoyable or better. Water boiled in a £4 kettle is the same as water boiled in a £100 kettle, how your tea tastes is down to how you make it, if you like it's the artistic aspect of making tea.

Focussing on the kettle distracts from the fact that if you don't like tea, you don't like tea.
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Well one may have more like scale I live in a hard water area.
Bobsyeruncle said:
As opposed to trying lots of new ones and still ending up disappointed?
Sometimes you need to learn to appreciate what you have.
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Mmm I know what I'd rather. ....
mickledore said:
Seems like some folk feel that mirrorless - esp Fuji - will give them everything they had in a big full frame DSLR but at a smaller size, weight and price point.
It will, at least for the vast majority of amateur hobbyists. But, and it's a big but, it's just like any new system in any field. You have to take time to learn and understand how it works.
Saying I've bought a Fuji and all will be simple because I can use a Nikon is a fallacy.
It's the same but different and if you can't, or won't, put the effort into learning how the system works then you probably won't be happy even if you get the Leica that you seem to crave.
Stonking good photos have always been taken even when the quality of gear was a fraction of what we see nowadays.
Of course, if you have incurable GAS, then nothing anyone says will be of any help to you.
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I didn't buy the Fuji to solve world peace I wanted to get back into photography so sold my Nikon as it just sat there for months as I felt it lacked excitement.
rjbell said:
I've always found it quite exciting finding yourself back in the sack with ex's. Bit awkward after the deed though :exit:
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Hahah not tried that myself. But all felt that regret the moment after you ...
 
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