Calling all Sony Alpha users! (Part 3)

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Until you are totally convinced that you've out grown your a200, stick with it, it's a great camera!!

Yeah I love my A200. Unsure about what to sell my A700 for though. I bought it quite cheap but I'm unsure whether I should try and turn a small profit or sell for what I bought it for/make a small loss. Considering the A700 is in rather high demand at the moment I'm not sure what to do :p
 
I got mine new for 450 :p Well, 499 it came without a charger and they quoted 50 quid for the official sony one so I just asked for another 50 off and got it. And it was 'ex display' (but it had never gone on display, it was just allocated for it :D).

I've had an offer for 430 on the thread. I think I'd like a bit more than that as it only has just over 1000 actuations and is only 3 months old!
 
Sorry George but I don't think you're going to win many friends by openly admitting you paid less for a new camera than you've trying to sell it for 2nd hand. Of course it's your perogative but when people have tried that sort of thing on TP before it's gone down like a lead balloon.
 
I guess probably only springtide will be interested in this, but I just went out with my A900 + CZ 16-35 and D700 with 17-35. Having both those around my neck got some funny looks as I swapped from one cam to another in quick successing. But its really the only way to test things!

Anyhow, I tried to take the same shots as far as humanly possible. D700 on the right, Sony A900 on the left. The CZ 16-35 is not as fast as the Nikkor, and gives 1/3rd stop less shutter (same as the KM 17-35) so I am sure the CZ is slower than f/2.8 and more like f/3.2 as this is consistant over two lenses npw.

Anyhow.. is how the raws open in Lightroom, everything "as is"



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100% (D700 / A900)

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While I don't think the CZ 16-35 is any better than the Nikon 17-35 (too be honest I think the Nikon is the better lens, both in build quality and optically), the A900 is pulling more detail (check the wood grain on the door crop above) And at Lightroom defaults, I prefer the A900 colours.
 
funny thing is,i hardly used my minolta 1.7 when i had it,but there's been a few moments recently when i wished i still had it.

they do say you never miss something until it's gone :bonk:

Indeed. I did go a while without using the 50 but I did go back to it big time. It's just such a nice size, especially with the grip taken off.
 
Sorry George but I don't think you're going to win many friends by openly admitting you paid less for a new camera than you've trying to sell it for 2nd hand. Of course it's your perogative but when people have tried that sort of thing on TP before it's gone down like a lead balloon.

Yeah I completely understand and I feel kinda bad trying to sell for more than I paid. However, it is a very sought after camera now and I did get a real bargain, but selling it for less than the normal going price just doesn't make much sense :shrug: I'll probably try and sell for what I paid, that way I'll be happy :) No loss, no gain, whatever. I'm also hoping to possibly shift some of my lenses with it so I'll just have 1 lens again and then possibly buy p1tse's 28-75mm F2.8 Tammy :)
 
Yeah I completely understand and I feel kinda bad trying to sell for more than I paid. However, it is a very sought after camera now and I did get a real bargain, but selling it for less than the normal going price just doesn't make much sense :shrug: I'll probably try and sell for what I paid, that way I'll be happy :) No loss, no gain, whatever. I'm also hoping to possibly shift some of my lenses with it so I'll just have 1 lens again and then possibly buy p1tse's 28-75mm F2.8 Tammy :)

The going second hand rate seems to be between £400 and £425-£450 just now, that seems to be the prices I've seen anyway.
 
The going second hand rate seems to be between £400 and £425-£450 just now, that seems to be the prices I've seen anyway.

I've scoured ebay a bit and most of the A700s going for below 450 are around 12 months old or more and have quite high shutter counts :p I've said 475 including delivery. I think this is fair considering it's practically unused. 125 quid off for just over 1000 actuations :p Not bad going :p
 
I guess probably only springtide will be interested in this, but I just went out with my A900 + CZ 16-35 and D700 with 17-35. Having both those around my neck got some funny looks as I swapped from one cam to another in quick successing. But its really the only way to test things!

Anyhow, I tried to take the same shots as far as humanly possible. D700 on the right, Sony A900 on the left. The CZ 16-35 is not as fast as the Nikkor, and gives 1/3rd stop less shutter (same as the KM 17-35) so I am sure the CZ is slower than f/2.8 and more like f/3.2 as this is consistant over two lenses npw.

Anyhow.. is how the raws open in Lightroom, everything "as is"

[While I don't think the CZ 16-35 is any better than the Nikon 17-35 (too be honest I think the Nikon is the better lens, both in build quality and optically), the A900 is pulling more detail (check the wood grain on the door crop above) And at Lightroom defaults, I prefer the A900 colours.

Thanks for that, that's interesting.

Pants day yesterday weather wise so didn't take a single photo, but managed to do a quick comparision between my old KM 1735 and the CZ1635 before my friend left today.

I will agree with you about the exposure and the CZ, as it was constantly underexposing by around 0.5 EV compared to the KM.

Will post some crops later (or my friend might beat me to it - in which case I'll post the link), but....

The KM is sharper in the centre, even wide open (not much in it though). The KM performs best at around f8 and does a very good job at the borders. Extreme boarders the KM are not great. The KM suffers from CA's pretty badly, but seem to be prety easily corrected.

The CZ performs very well at the borders (not much drop off from the centre), and the extreme borders are much better than the KM. The CZ also handles CA's better, but does suffer a little.

Basically once you start moving from the centre of the frame, the CZ pulls ahead and it stays that way. Contrast also seemed better on the CZ.
Unfortunatly because of the exposure differences between the two lenses, the test images are not ideal.

The results are similar to what was posted at:
http://artaphot.ch/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=161&Itemid=43
But we agreed that the KM copy that I used to own performed more like the KM 17-35/3.5 'G' in the linked test, as the borders seemed much better than the Tamron (maybe the Tam was a poor copy?)
I think my mate was very surprised in how well the KM performed, and it will be interesting to see his comments later in the week.

But bottom line, considering I sold my KM for £140 (as he's a mate) and I bought the CZ for £1260. For £140, the KM seems like the bargain of the century..
 
Thanks for that Simon - I was getting a bit worried I had a "dud" CZ or a magic KM, but it seems you see the same thing.

I've always rated the Tamron 17-35 (or KM as we know it here) and the KM / Tamron comes astonishingly close to my Nikkor, again center sharpness is the same and the Tamron just loses out maybe in the last 50 pixels of extreme corners on the D700. Same really for the KM and Zeiss on the A900.

BTW I've just shot my Sigma 24mm Super Wide II wide open again my CZ and the Sigma is better in the center - corners are equal.

Agreed - the KM is a super bargain, that was the first lens I picked up when I re-bought an A900 again and it was the first lens I bought (in Tamron guise) first time around.

But bottom line, considering I sold my KM for £140 (as he's a mate) and I bought the CZ for £1260. For £140, the KM seems like the bargain of the century..

I have a decision to make about the Zeiss...! I'm not seeing that price differential.... ouch.
 
Thanks for that Simon - I was getting a bit worried I had a "dud" CZ or a magic KM, but it seems you see the same thing.

I've always rated the Tamron 17-35 (or KM as we know it here) and the KM / Tamron comes astonishingly close to my Nikkor, again center sharpness is the same and the Tamron just loses out maybe in the last 50 pixels of extreme corners on the D700. Same really for the KM and Zeiss on the A900.

BTW I've just shot my Sigma 24mm Super Wide II wide open again my CZ and the Sigma is better in the center - corners are equal.

Agreed - the KM is a super bargain, that was the first lens I picked up when I re-bought an A900 again and it was the first lens I bought (in Tamron guise) first time around.

But bottom line, considering I sold my KM for £140 (as he's a mate) and I bought the CZ for £1260. For £140, the KM seems like the bargain of the century..

I have a decision to make about the Zeiss...! I'm not seeing that price differential.... ouch.

Just a couple of quick crops, both at f8 (as this is where the KM seems to perform best in the corners)

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Will post more later, as the kids need a run around :)
 
Thanks Simon.

I just popped out for a bit.

16mm wide open (wish I had a tripod, but I only found this today!)


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I'm pretty confident my Ziess is OK, and its just that the KM is damn good :)

Lovely shot! What lens is that?

Whats the general consensus on Sony 50mm f1.8 v the Minolta 50mm f1.7?

I thought they were pretty much the same thing, a bit like the 28mm. I know both of them are supposed to be good though :p And the Sony one has a SAM. Not sure how much difference this makes though.
 
a couple of shots to try the 11-18 indoors...nothing special,just the missus wrapping some of the grandchildrens presents up.i must admit to being happy with the IQ of this lens for the money,and the fun i'm gonna have with it over christmas..:D

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Lovely shot! What lens is that?

Cheers, just a test shot really! This location is only 5 minutes from my house, but I've never come across is before. A door was open I'd never seen before so I sneaked in for a quick peek!

Lens was a Carl Zeiss 16-35 f/2.8 SSM.

In an ideal world, I'd ve kept the ISO down, stopped down and shot on a tripod, but chances are I'll never be able to get in again! :lol:

-Andy
 
a couple of shots to try the 11-18 indoors...nothing special,just the missus wrapping some of the grandchildrens presents up.i must admit to being happy with the IQ of this lens for the money,and the fun i'm gonna have with it over christmas..:D

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I have a weakness for wide angle shots tbh :D Makes everything more interesting :lol:

Cheers, just a test shot really! This location is only 5 minutes from my house, but I've never come across is before. A door was open I'd never seen before so I sneaked in for a quick peek!

Lens was a Carl Zeiss 16-35 f/2.8 SSM.

In an ideal world, I'd ve kept the ISO down, stopped down and shot on a tripod, but chances are I'll never be able to get in again! :lol:

-Andy

Nice! Just a bit out of my price range :p Looks a lovely lens though!
 
Hope some one can help, or at least share a similiar experience.

I bought a Sony Alpha 200, just over a year ago. Just before the warranty ran out it started to develop an intermittent fault, where the flash started to buzz and the camera wouldn't take pictures.

I sent the camera away and Sony sent it back saying it had been fixed.

I have had it for 2 months and the same issues have started back. I don't think they will fix it now as the original warranty will have ran out.

Has anyone else had a similiar problem?

Really making me wish I had bought another camera
 
Hope some one can help, or at least share a similiar experience.

I bought a Sony Alpha 200, just over a year ago. Just before the warranty ran out it started to develop an intermittent fault, where the flash started to buzz and the camera wouldn't take pictures.

I sent the camera away and Sony sent it back saying it had been fixed.

I have had it for 2 months and the same issues have started back. I don't think they will fix it now as the original warranty will have ran out.

Has anyone else had a similiar problem?

Really making me wish I had bought another camera

I don't know if sony are the same but most companies give you a repair warranty e.g. tom tom give 6 months on any repair.
 
I'm still loving the 28mm F2.8 Minolta on my A200, but on my A700 it seems underwhelming in comparison :( I think it's because the A700 dwarfs it a bit while the A200 suits its size perfectly.

My Dad is interested in my A700 now so I might be selling his Nikon D60 instead :p He doesn't like the D60 much but really likes my Sony's. Also means he can nick my lenses from time to time :p
 
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