Calling all Sony Alpha users! (Part 3)

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Still have not really decided what to do, I am going to put the a200 up soon in the classifieds.

The sale alone of the a200 + the cash I have should get me an a700, which would be the practical things to do. All my lenses and flash would still be usable.

If I sold everything, I should be able to get a D90 + Sigma 70-300 APO, maybe even stretch to a nifty 50.

The Nikon route will give me a camera with slightly newer technology and new lenses, but will loose IS on the longer lens.

I never planned to stay with Sony for ever and this might be the only chance I get to do this for quite a while.

Been considering the same to be honest I love the look of the D90 but not sure if I would miss built in IS, fair enough the kit lens has IS built in but to replace my 50mm and 10-20mm they would not have IS.
 
Just wondering if anyone here has used the Sony 16-105, the A700 "kit lens" any good?
yes.
I originally wanted just an A700 body but got offered a very good deal on the 16-105mm kit which I took up expecting to sell the lens on & thereby have an exceptionally cheap A700 body.
18 months later I still have the 16-105mm ...
after the 70-400 G it's my most used lens as it's very good as a walkaround. I suppose that you will be wanting some samples, Chris? :p

P.S. new kit lens looks an improvement over the old http://artaphot.ch/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=175&Itemid=43
 
yes.
I originally wanted just an A700 body but got offered a very good deal on the 16-105mm kit which I took up expecting to sell the lens on & thereby have an exceptionally cheap A700 body.
18 months later I still have the 16-105mm ...
after the 70-400 G it's my most used lens as it's very good as a walkaround. I suppose that you will be wanting some samples, Chris? :p

P.S. new kit lens looks an improvement over the old http://artaphot.ch/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=175&Itemid=43


Cheers Scott,

I would love to buy the 16-105 as well and I know that at £800 for the A700 and lens together its better than the £400+ to buy the lens itself I'm just not sure if I can afford both, although I know it would be a cracking lens.
Might need to use that new 0% credit card I've got :)
 
I posted this in a seperate thread, but haven't had much of a response, do thought i'd try my luck here..

I suppose it's not necessarily a Sony lens question, but here goes anyway. I've been trying to get some decent pictures of a couple of young kittens a friend of mine has adopted, and I'm finding it pretty difficult. Both times my opportunity has been restricted to evenings, with only the top light in the living room switched on. I've got a Sony A200 with the kit lens and a Minolta 35-105 (the better, older one).

The problem I've found is that the A200 wants to bring up the flash a lot of the time, even though it's not particularly dark, although I understand what doesn't appear too dark, may be dark for a camera/lens. The other issue is that when I try to zoom in on the kittens, the camera will refuse to either auto-focus or take a shot in Manual mode, so a lot of the time the pictures are relatively wide angle. I managed to get some 'close' up shots with the Macro mode on the 35-105, even though it requires a few feet distance from the subject, and sometimes on board flash, the colours are too harsh and bright. Switching flash off, results in exposure time of about half a second, resulting in blur if handheld (although somewhat fixed by balancing on knee etc).

So what I am doing wrong? Or are my lenses not capable of focusing in indoor light?

I've only picked up my Sony A200 a few weeks back, and that was probably my first time in dealing with low light situation, so I could be doing a lot wrong, but thought I'd check for some advice here anyway.

Thoughts very much appreciated - thanks.
 
Are you shooting in auto mode? If so, then the camera tries to keep a faster shutter speed, so up pops the flash. There is an auto mode that will disable the flash, next to the auto mode. Try switching to manual, opening the aperture, and upping the iso, then selecting a shutter speed to suit. Otherwise try adding some more light!
 
I posted this in a seperate thread, but haven't had much of a response, do thought i'd try my luck here..

I suppose it's not necessarily a Sony lens question, but here goes anyway. I've been trying to get some decent pictures of a couple of young kittens a friend of mine has adopted, and I'm finding it pretty difficult. Both times my opportunity has been restricted to evenings, with only the top light in the living room switched on. I've got a Sony A200 with the kit lens and a Minolta 35-105 (the better, older one).

The problem I've found is that the A200 wants to bring up the flash a lot of the time, even though it's not particularly dark, although I understand what doesn't appear too dark, may be dark for a camera/lens. The other issue is that when I try to zoom in on the kittens, the camera will refuse to either auto-focus or take a shot in Manual mode, so a lot of the time the pictures are relatively wide angle. I managed to get some 'close' up shots with the Macro mode on the 35-105, even though it requires a few feet distance from the subject, and sometimes on board flash, the colours are too harsh and bright. Switching flash off, results in exposure time of about half a second, resulting in blur if handheld (although somewhat fixed by balancing on knee etc).

So what I am doing wrong? Or are my lenses not capable of focusing in indoor light?

I've only picked up my Sony A200 a few weeks back, and that was probably my first time in dealing with low light situation, so I could be doing a lot wrong, but thought I'd check for some advice here anyway.

Thoughts very much appreciated - thanks.

Sounds to me like you need a larger apperature lens like a 50mm f1.7, and i'd also recommend a better flash as the on board one on an a200 isn't really up to much to be honest!

I'd also check where your camera is focusing. It sounds like it might be hunting all over the place for a point to focus on. You can set the camera up to focus in one area (see your manual) like to the top left corner or dead centre etc.
 
also consider increasing ISO (& if shooting under a tungsten bulb changing white balance).
Does the A200 have a focus assist beam like the A700 (I suspect not)?
 
I posted this in a seperate thread, but haven't had much of a response, do thought i'd try my luck here..

I suppose it's not necessarily a Sony lens question, but here goes anyway. I've been trying to get some decent pictures of a couple of young kittens a friend of mine has adopted, and I'm finding it pretty difficult. Both times my opportunity has been restricted to evenings, with only the top light in the living room switched on. I've got a Sony A200 with the kit lens and a Minolta 35-105 (the better, older one).

The problem I've found is that the A200 wants to bring up the flash a lot of the time, even though it's not particularly dark, although I understand what doesn't appear too dark, may be dark for a camera/lens. The other issue is that when I try to zoom in on the kittens, the camera will refuse to either auto-focus or take a shot in Manual mode, so a lot of the time the pictures are relatively wide angle. I managed to get some 'close' up shots with the Macro mode on the 35-105, even though it requires a few feet distance from the subject, and sometimes on board flash, the colours are too harsh and bright. Switching flash off, results in exposure time of about half a second, resulting in blur if handheld (although somewhat fixed by balancing on knee etc).

So what I am doing wrong? Or are my lenses not capable of focusing in indoor light?

I've only picked up my Sony A200 a few weeks back, and that was probably my first time in dealing with low light situation, so I could be doing a lot wrong, but thought I'd check for some advice here anyway.

Thoughts very much appreciated - thanks.

OK, a couple of things to try / bear in mind.

1/ The 35-105 has a minimum focus distance of 1.5 metres.

2/ Stick the camera on M, set the aperture to the lowest number. Press the button just to the right of the viewfinder and at the same time rotate the thumb wheel until you get the lowest number showing.

3/ Press the ISO button and set to 100 to start with.

4/ As you look throught the view finder and half press the shutter, you should see a scale -2 -1 0 1 2. There will probalbly be < or > at one end as well. You need to move the thumb wheel to change the shutter speed until you get a | on the 0 on the scale. This is where the camera is saying the correct exposure is for what ever is in the metering area.

5/ If your shutter speed is say 1/2 second or longer then you need to change something. First would be ISO, I have used the a200 upto 800 ISO with OK results. Second provide more light, flash, natural or other. Third lens with faster aperture, as already suggested.

If you do 2 - 4 above, you will at least have an idea if there is not enough light.
 
3/ Press the ISO button and set to 100 to start with.
the sensor's native output is nearer 200 (iirc it's something like 180) so I would start there especially as you are likely to need higher than lower.
 
absolutely, for sure, finally, positively made your mind up? :naughty:
 
absolutely, for sure, finally, positively made your mind up? :naughty:

Oh yes, I've just bought a Minolta 28-105 to replace my departing kit lens and acquired a Tamron 55-200 for the very few occasions I use a zoom lens now that my Beercan is departing :'(
 
Just noticed the a700 at £569 in my local PC world and they had a few boxes in the cabinet
 
A700 user soon....:D and a grip to balance the siggy 70-200:thumbs:
 
Well my A700 LCD protector arrived today, just need the A700 now!

So then I can assume you are definately going for the A700 then?:clap: I know you had delusions of going to the dark side with possibly a D90?:eek:

I am a fine one to speak though...have been eyeing out a D300, but have now also settled on an A700. Just a question of money now!
 
So then I can assume you are definately going for the A700 then?:clap: I know you had delusions of going to the dark side with possibly a D90?:eek:

I am a fine one to speak though...have been eyeing out a D300, but have now also settled on an A700. Just a question of money now!

Yeah settled on the A700, it was going to be almost £250 cheaper as I don't need to buy a lens for it, I've got my Minolta 50mm, Minolta 28-105, Sigma 10-20 and Tamron 55-200.
It means I can save that cash and put it toward a higher speed lens like the Tamron 17-50, a Sony Flashgun and maybe a filter kit,
 
Good man! Now a question for my sony bretheren (and sisters)..and please don't scoff. If you had a chance to get a Sony 70-200 2.8, would you..and still keep your A300? Would an A300 not do the lens justice and would you rather get an A700 and the lens later?
 
Good man! Now a question for my sony bretheren (and sisters)..and please don't scoff. If you had a chance to get a Sony 70-200 2.8, would you..and still keep your A300? Would an A300 not do the lens justice and would you rather get an A700 and the lens later?

yep,definately worth getting the 70-200 to put on your A300 IMO...i got mine before i had my A700 and loved it,especially with the grip,it balanced it all out very nicely....

here's a couple of shots taken with the 70-200 and A350....


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wow Stan, great pics. I am hoping to pick one up soon..just the bank manager (missus) to get past.
 
I spent the day at the Sony HQ today and spent time shooting with all of the new cameras, as well as the 900 again and looking at forthcoming stuff. I will post over the next few days as shattered now but worth reading.

And upon leaving I once again hankered for an A900 with the 85mm f/1.4 - just sublime....

Pete.
 
an A900 with the 85mm f/1.4

Drool! :D

Just got my old A700 back from repair and all appears to be working fine now. I also worked out what happened to the CF card that I took out of it and left on my desk................it was still in the camera! :bonk:

Must say that I was surprised though as it was sent back to me in its box but with no extra protective packaging, just a plastic bag. And I found the bubblewrap I sent it wrapped in inside the box. Not a biggie really but it did surprise me nonetheless.
 
I spent the day at the Sony HQ today and spent time shooting with all of the new cameras, as well as the 900 again and looking at forthcoming stuff. I will post over the next few days as shattered now but worth reading.

And upon leaving I once again hankered for an A900 with the 85mm f/1.4 - just sublime....

Pete.

Pete thanks for the update. Sounds like a good (if hard) day out and look forward to your feedback.

You are right, the a900+CZ85 is a wonderful combo ;)

BTW, Did Sony give you any idea on when the new HVLF20AM flash will be available?
 
i'm not overly impressed with the new camera's...plus they seem quite expensive for a begginers/novice DSLR...

i too loved the A900 when i had a play at focus on imaging...there's one 2nd hand at cameraworld in wells street going for £1350 body only...if only,if only...:lol:
 
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