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As Phil said earlier , how old do you think Mary, mother of jesus, was when she married Joseph ?
She wasn't real though!
As Phil said earlier , how old do you think Mary, mother of jesus, was when she married Joseph ?
Age of consent has no relation to paedophilia...Let's leave Mohammed's link out of for a moment. Just because there is a low age of consent that doesn't mean or has any link to paedophilia at all. That was merely the point I was making. Or to put it bluntly having an age of consent of 12 doesn't make it right or a 16+ to have sex with a 12 year old.It don't think it is. I think there is a good chance the 1,500 year old text is probably incomparable to today and to use it as a fact is unwise. Where as its will documented that the Vatican only changed its stance two years ago.
It also shows that Islam is far from the only religion to turn a blind eye to paedophilia.
But don't we have a system in place for people to claim asylum? Surely if these people have a genuine reason they would go through the process and come into the country legally.
As regards to laws, the damage they cause to the lorries is surely illegal, and if they did manage to stow away and enter this country this is breaking the law.
Her's went first, so I assume that she had time to see yours.I wonder if she actually saw mine because I definitely saw hers
Age of consent has no relation to paedophilia...Let's leave Mohammed's link out of for a moment. Just because there is a low age of consent that doesn't mean or has any link to paedophilia at all. That was merely the point I was making. Or to put it bluntly having an age of consent of 12 doesn't make it right or a 16+ to have sex with a 12 year old.
But I wasn't quoting you there, was I? Hence the lack of a quote or quotation marks. 1st time I did indeed quote your own words. You need to put the trumpet away and stop starving your brain of much needed oxygen.Well that'll do for a start, I said
I didn't have to try hard now did I![]()
Youre funny.But I wasn't quoting you there, was I? Hence the lack of a quote or quotation marks. 1st time I did indeed quote your own words. You need to put the trumpet away and stop starving your brain of much needed oxygen.
Her's went first, so I assume that she had time to see yours.![]()
Well I stand corrected. That is just wrong. All they had to do was introduce an close in age type clause. I'm shocked that that wasn't there. In Holland it was 12 as well when I grew up. But 16+ and a 12 yo was not acceptable. Further more it also had a parental override, although I'm not sure it was ever invoked. Further more interestingly the actual average age of intercourse was 18. Yet again demonstrating a lack of link between the age of consent. I think it is very much a cultural issue as well, just like the UK struggles with alcohol and drugs, it really doesn't have a good recent history in its attitude towards children.No, I agree but the reason the Vatican raised the age of consent was to stop older men having sex with 12 year olds. Sadly, if your age of consent is 12 then no criminal offence (ignoring the morals for a second) by anyone of any age having sex with a 12 year old
Youre funny.
Maybe not in the way you hope, but funny all the same![]()
Still awaiting your evidence that I am not as above.So you're suggesting I just have to trust your word for it?
Now then, if you were a straight up bloke who had a history of honesty and open mindedness...
But as it is (particularly as you misquoted me on purpose to point score)
I'll stick with not believing you.
It's pointless, you see your closed minded ignorant ill conceived ill informed opinions as thinking and intellectual, when you ignore a direct point to shift the debate back to a stock response, you think you're being smart.It wasn't an attempt at being funny.
Still awaiting your evidence that I am not as above.
Well I stand corrected. That is just wrong. All they had to do was introduce an close in age type clause. I'm shocked that that wasn't there. In Holland it was 12 as well when I grew up. But 16+ and a 12 yo was not acceptable. Further more it also had a parental override, although I'm not sure it was ever invoked. Further more interestingly the actual average age of intercourse was 18. Yet again demonstrating a lack of link between the age of consent. I think it is very much a cultural issue as well, just like the UK struggles with alcohol and drugs, it really doesn't have a good recent history in its attitude towards children.
Well I stand corrected. That is just wrong. All they had to do was introduce an close in age type clause. I'm shocked that that wasn't there. In Holland it was 12 as well when I grew up. But 16+ and a 12 yo was not acceptable. Further more it also had a parental override, although I'm not sure it was ever invoked. Further more interestingly the actual average age of intercourse was 18. Yet again demonstrating a lack of link between the age of consent. I think it is very much a cultural issue as well, just like the UK struggles with alcohol and drugs, it really doesn't have a good recent history in its attitude towards children.
That's good, I like showing mine.
t. I think it is very much a cultural issue as well, just like the UK struggles with alcohol and drugs, it really doesn't have a good recent history in its attitude towards children.
Agreed, and I just never can understand it. Especially not from a church to try and cover it up. Doing that and talking about morality is just so hypocritical. No excuses apply.mind you no country would appear to be immune from both noncery and covering it up http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/dec/16/children-dutch-catholic-institutions-abused that also goes to what I was saying to ST4 earlier about Islam not being the only faith where paedophillia is sometimes covered up and swept under the rug
That reply is not your evidence that I asked for earlier but when you've finally supplied that, you can provide the evidence of all of the above.It's pointless, you see your closed minded ignorant ill conceived ill informed opinions as thinking and intellectual, when you ignore a direct point to shift the debate back to a stock response, you think you're being smart.
As you can see from other people's responses to them, that's not a unanimous opinion. Most people appear to see those opinions as ignorant at best and wilfully deceitful at worst.
But you won't read that as a factual commentary of the thread, because you can only see you as 'right', so it's obvious to you that I'm just mud slinging.
That reply is not your evidence that I asked for earlier but when you've finally supplied that, you can provide the evidence of all of the above.
If anyone has any evidence of me being as such above, please feel free to provide it also.