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Another incident, this time with an emergency evacuation. Not going very well for this wonder-plane is it.
 
Not well at all

Being employed in the Aerospace industry I'm hoping this plane gets sorted ASAP
 
Matter of time before one fall out of the sky? I hope not.
 
From what the news was reporting this morning, it's a Li Ion battery issue. That'll teach boing to use the cheapest they can source!
 
Nod said:
From what the news was reporting this morning, it's a Li Ion battery issue.
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I wonder what sort of range they get on those things. I would have thought they'd still be using aviation fuel. Shows how little I know. Maybe for a safety net they should consider a hybrid solution. Just an idea. :D
 
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Take my hat off to people who can design and build stuff like that, hope it's just a few teething problems due to "we want our plane" deadlines.
 
tdodd said:
I wonder what sort of range they get on those things. I would have thought they'd still be using aviation fuel. Shows how little I know. Maybe for a safety net they should consider a hybrid solution. Just an idea.
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The batteries they use have a purpose similar to those in your car (starting etc) the aircraft still uses Gas Turbines burning aviation fuel for propulsion.
 
Are some folk missing the tongue in cheek nature of some of the posts in this thread?
 
I knew I should have used a smiley. I wasn't sure it was funny enough though.

EDIT : Fixed it. ;)
 
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Much ado about nothing.
When I worked at Heathrow we had, on average, 2 Full Emergencies, numerous aircraft ground incidents and local standby's, a week.

It happens to all aircraft, and a lot of the so called issues with the 7 late 7 were things that could, and do happen to everything else.
 
Airbus's wonder-plane isn't doing to well either.
 
Bernie174 said:
Much ado about nothing.
When I worked at Heathrow we had, on average, 2 Full Emergencies, numerous aircraft ground incidents and local standby's, a week.

It happens to all aircraft, and a lot of the so called issues with the 7 late 7 were things that could, and do happen to everything else.
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This :thumbs:

Broken windscreen, that happens most likely at least once for each day ending in a "y" fuel leave due to a faulty valve, these things break from time to time, the only concerning one is the ongoing battery issues :(

I think part of the issue here was that PR took over too much on the 787 such as stupid stunts like rushing to roll out what turned out to be barley short of a model on 7/8/7 :(
 
The thing that "amused" me was the battery "issue"
They are now using lithium-ion as a replacement (for what ever it was before)
you are not allowed to place camera batteries in the hold, as if they catch fire,
they are easier to spot and deal with in the passenger compartment.
Am I the only one to see the ion-ry (:D) in this?
 
Cobra

They know all about it over heating in the tail area too. I don't know if the Boeing/Airfix 787 has fire extinguishers in that area, possibly not, but it's not terminal unless they are mid Atlantic. I'd guess that the chances of fire at altitude are almost nil due to lack of O2, unlike in the hold, which can be pressurized, and being a big space is almost impossible to extinguish a fire in while airborne.

Lithium Iron batteries didn't replace anything on this type of aircraft it was designed with them in, due to being lighter. Remember this thing was aimed at making the public love it because it was green. These batteries are a lot lighter and every gram saved saves fuel. Although big melted bits probably make for a lot of extra drag, so maybe it wasn't such a good idea.
 
Bernie174 said:
Cobra

They know all about it over heating in the tail area too. I don't know if the Boeing/Airfix 787 has fire extinguishers in that area, possibly not, but it's not terminal unless they are mid Atlantic. I'd guess that the chances of fire at altitude are almost nil due to lack of O2, unlike in the hold, which can be pressurized, and being a big space is almost impossible to extinguish a fire in while airborne.

Lithium Iron batteries didn't replace anything on this type of aircraft it was designed with them in, due to being lighter. Remember this thing was aimed at making the public love it because it was green. These batteries are a lot lighter and every gram saved saves fuel. Although big melted bits probably make for a lot of extra drag, so maybe it wasn't such a good idea.
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As I've heard it the weight saving over the previous tech is only 10kgs so I'm sure if needs be they'll go back to them :thumbs:
 
I really don't know much about this at all, only the "snip its" I have caught on the news.
I just found the whole battery thing ironic :D
 
Nod said:
From what the news was reporting this morning, it's a Li Ion battery issue. That'll teach boing to use the cheapest they can source!
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just think.... every component of every plane is more than likely made of the cheapest component...
 
How much is a ticket on one of these Dreamliners? Sounds more bloody exciting than Alton Towers.
 
Lynton said:
just think.... every component of every plane is more than likely made of the cheapest component...
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As one of the early astronauts pointed out, so is the entire US space program!
 
scaremongering, all new things have teething problems
 
Teething problems, I would just as happily fly on one of these as any other aircraft.
 
Davec223 said:
Teething problems, I would just as happily fly on one of these as any other aircraft.
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Agreed.
This is more because the media have latched onto it.
Last year it was Toyota... and today they're not feeling the effects.


My expected order of events over the next couple of months.
Boeing Techs will be sent to upgrade the planes with some new fandangled protected battery which no-one will be able to verify, and this media coverage will die out due to boredom, and no-one will be any the wiser :suspect:
 
The 787 isn't the first aircraft in history to have "teething problems". DC-10, anyone? Hell, we've even already lost a Sukhoi Superjet in a fatal crash. The DC-10 went on to be a popular and safe aircraft and the Superjet doesn't seem to have suffered too much.

It really is a huge shame to see a new aircraft having such problems, but the 787 will be just fine.
 
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