Body upgrade, 7D mkii or 6D? sample pictures please.

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I've been using my 550D for a few years now and I've felt it's limitations for a while now, especially with low light and night photography which is what I like to do the most. I borrowed my sisters 6D over the Christmas period and that has pretty much set my mind on looking for a 6D body because I found the low light and night shooting capabilities of it absolutely amazing. Although saying that I have noticed the new 7D mk2 is around a similar price, but I know nothing about how it performs, I've just read tech stats on paper.

I know the new 7D mk2 isn't FF, but does anyone have any experience with it compared to the 6D's noise performance?

The noise performance is the main factor for me, I'd actually love some usable shots at ISO 6400 which I know the 6D is capable of, but then again the new 7D's bells and whistles takes my fancy. Like better AF points, 60fps 1080p video (6D only does 30fps), 10fps continuous shooting and 31RAW buffer.

I don't shoot one type of subject, I like to shoot all sorts of things but night photography is my favorite (starscapes, milky way, landscapes, etc). If the 7D mk2 can handle high ISO and have usable shots I'd imagine I'd be edging towards it over the 6D.

If anyone has any sample pictures of the 7Dmkii and high ISO then please share.

Cheers!
 
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You should be looking at a 5dmk3 if you wan't a superb do it all body, TBH i find looking at other peoples images on the net misleading and mostly shows processing skills or the lack of.
 
Neil B said:
You should be looking at a 5dmk3 if you wan't a superb do it all body, TBH i find looking at other peoples images on the net misleading and mostly shows processing skills or the lack of.
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Good point. The only way I can get a 5D3 is if it's a grey import. Would there be any downside to that?
 
Or a good clean S/H could be a option, i used mine for Macro,Portrait,Landscape and wildlife but made a mistake of selling it on for a 7Dmk2 that is obviously a cheaper body but IMHO the 5dmk3 is worth the spend.
 
I own both the 6D and the 5D mk3. Both are excellent in low light but the 5D wins in build quality, in shutter burst (just) and AF.

If you really need the extra reach of a crop camera or the 10fps then I suggest you explore the 7D mk2 further otherwise go for the 6D or 5D mk3 neither will disappoint you.

As far as grey imports is concerned. All Canon cameras are imports and built in the same factories and to the same specs. The only difference is the warranty. Grey imports come with seller warranties whilst UK supplier cameras come with Canon warranties. Try Panamoz or HDEW both have excellent reputations.
 
Neil B said:
You should be looking at a 5dmk3 if you wan't a superb do it all body, TBH i find looking at other peoples images on the net misleading and mostly shows processing skills or the lack of.
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....Surely it would have to be a secondhand 5D Mark III to be within the budget of a 6D or 7D Mark II? Also there is the question of which lenses Paul already has and whether how many will fit the 5D3's full-frame body - Sorry, I don't know but is the 6D full-frame? There would be added costs if more lenses were needed.

Whereas looking at other peoples images on the net may indeed be potentially misleading, this also applies to your own images posted on the hyperinterwebbynet, Neil. Besides, failure is the path to success, or so it is said.

The most real-world informative comments are going to come from someone who has used both the 6D and 7D2. Theoretically the 7D2 has Canon's latest state-of-the-art technology and therefore you would expect its noise performance to be better at the higher ISO numbers.

Eitherway, noise reduction software on RAW images is going to help significantly.

I think it is probably safe to say that the best Canon of all for noise performance is the 1DX but that costs big bucks!
 
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RedRobin said:
....Surely it would have to be a secondhand 5D Mark III to be within the budget of a 6D or 7D Mark II? Also there is the question of which lenses Paul already has and whether how many will fit the 5D3's full-frame body - Sorry, I don't know but is the 6D full-frame? There would be added costs if more lenses were needed.

Whereas looking at other peoples images on the net may indeed be potentially misleading, this also applies to your own images posted on the hyperinterwebbynet, Neil. Besides, failure is the path to success, or so it is said.

The most real-world informative comments are going to come from someone who has used both the 6D and 7D2. Theoretically the 7D2 has Canon's latest state-of-the-art technology and therefore you would expect its noise performance to be better at the higher ISO numbers.

Eitherway, noise reduction software on RAW images is going to help significantly.

I think it is probably safe to say that the best Canon of all for noise performance is the 1DX but that costs big bucks!
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Did forget to mention my lenses.

70-200 f/2.8 L IS
100-400 f/4.5 L IS
Nifty fifty f/1.8 (the cheap £80 one)
18-55 kit lens that came with the 550D. Soon to be upgrading this one but I'm waiting to see whether or not I go FF. I don't want to be getting a 24-70 as a wide angle then be stuck with that on a crop sensor. I like my wide angle shots, especially for night shooting.
 
I believe that Canon say that the 7D2 build quality is second only to the 1DX in durability and weather resistance. The 7D2 is only fractionally 'better' than the 5D3 in Autofocus system and performance but that's only currently because of the 7D2 being latest state of Canon's technology.

If I was shooting landscapes and general photography I would consider the 5D3 but definitely not for wildlife and/or action. As always, it comes down to what kind of photography you do or want to do and how much you are happy to spend - Simples!
 
All your now listed EF lenses will fit a crop-sensor such as Canon's crop-sensor flagship 7D2 but from your stated liking of wide angle and night photography I would advise a 5D3 will suit you best (I hate to agree with Neil B!) :D
 
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Paul, although I have always bought my camera bodies new from Park Cameras I have absolutely no vested interest in posting that they are currently offering new 5D3 with discount voucher of £300 and free battery grip (assumimg I have understood it correctly).

http://www.parkcameras.com/23469/Canon-EOS-5D-MK-III-Body.html

Of course the grey importers offer cheaper prices but let's not spoil your thread by starting a debate about them.

Just trying to help and enjoy spending other people's money :D
 
RedRobin said:
@CaveDweller
Paul, although I have always bought my camera bodies new from Park Cameras I have absolutely no vested interest in posting that they are currently offering new 5D3 with discount voucher of £300 and free battery grip (assumimg I have understood it correctly).

http://www.parkcameras.com/23469/Canon-EOS-5D-MK-III-Body.html

Of course the grey importers offer cheaper prices but let's not spoil your thread by starting a debate about them.

Just trying to help and enjoy spending other people's money :D
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Lol I have to wait till next weeks pay check after work messing me about over christmas. Thanks for the tips...and another thing to drain my bank account.
 
Go with FF for night photography! It's the perfect time to upgrade, if you don't do awful lot actions, there is no need for 7d mk2. 6D's DR will handle the night photography so much better
 
I would take a couple of cards down to a shop and try both out
 
You could compare here:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/ima...1&x=-0.9158891484123478&y=0.16501644510860927

The full framers are certainly better with regards high iso noise control in low light, but the 7D II seems to have closed the gap a bit compared with the original 7D. It's important to compare high iso shots taken in low light, as high iso images always look better in good light.

Edit: Updated the link to show low light high ISO shots.
 
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If you want to shoot in low light/high ISO capability then you need to be thinking full frame. A 7D Mk2 is not the camera you need.
 
Thanks all, either going to go for the 5D or 6D. Ruled the 7D2 out of the equation.
 
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