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so which bit don't you understand
4/3 is the same as 1.3
I didn't understand that 4/3 meant 4 divided by 3 :bang:
so which bit don't you understand
4/3 is the same as 1.3
I didn't understand that 4/3 meant 4 divided by 3 :bang:

basic arithmetic
4+3=7
4-3=1
4/3=1.33(33333333333333333)
4*3=12
I blime et al on the educashun cistern![]()
So how did you know it was on -1.3?
grab the pic. Right click>Properties>details That gives the exif..
I have just reset the settings on it so fingers crossed, I wonder if its anything to do with the settings Simon kindly showed me when we were taking photos on that lizard, I dont think I changed it back from the zoo.
Yeah I had got the Exif data but interpreted 4/3 as 4/3rds and not 4 divided by 3. So I got myself confused as to how 4/3rds got translated into 1.3.
Fix it in post
Seriously, do you have a copy of photoshop? The lowlights (err is that the right term?) are dead in places but I've had a look on photoshop and parts are definitely not as bad as they 1st appear.
But we all have bad shoots, plenty of them usually![]()
Its brought that section up lovely though. I do have some PP experience but even these beat me.Ok Julian as you've got the edit box ticked I've come up with a crop which may help things, you'll even notice that the trees in the background are green again! I replaced your watermark as I cropped it out a little.. and I have blown the sky a little in recovering the trees, but considering I'm new to photoshop I think it's a reasonable effort?
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Ok in all seriousness I was playing around to see if the data was there to recover the detail from the black bits and it was, but I have nowhere near enough skill, so some bits ended up distinctly odd when I did it. So I played around with a little cropped bit instead. I did also straighten the horizon and put the top of the lake bit at the top 1/3 line.
I played with saturation, curves, level, black level, contrast, exposure presets and pretty much everything else about 30 times, alas such is my inexperience.
Just to ad Julian, you can bring back an awful lot of detail in Photoshop Elements 8.
I wouldn't normally do this, but here is a versio I very quickly edited in PSE8.
I did the image overall, then selected the lady on the right and did another stint at settings in enhance>lighting>Shadows and highlights.
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Will remove once I know you have seen it..

Yeah I had got the Exif data but interpreted 4/3 as 4/3rds and not 4 divided by 3. So I got myself confused as to how 4/3rds got translated into 1.3.
To be honest I am confused by that too... Wonders why or how that happens..
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(I'll shut up now, before I start to look like a maths geek - and let Julian have his thread back)
Four thirds . . . one and one third . . . four divided by three . . . it's all the same thing.
Working with Excel all day I automatically thing of / as a divide sign, but you could read it equally correctly as four thirds.
Comes back to 1.333333 whichever way you look at it.
(I'll shut up now, before I start to look like a maths geek - and let Julian have his thread back)
now you now you have to check next time![]()
LOL Julian!! It was just to show what you could do to save some of your images and time that you spent taking them..
Might be the next thing to get as I have saved a couple of images this way and also pushed to fake HDR... Somtimes it works, sometimes it doesn't but you get the idea.. You might as well keep a few from today Julian for a rainy day so to speak..
Not sure if PSE7 has Shadows>highlights control (anyone know?) but you can get it for less than £20.00 PSE 8 for around £47.00 on Amazon.co.uk
I hope this has helped.. If you want me to have a fiddle with a couple let me know.. I use Yousendit for large files but you need the email address etc...
Four thirds . . . one and one third . . . four divided by three . . . it's all the same thing.
Working with Excel all day I automatically thing of / as a divide sign, but you could read it equally correctly as four thirds.
Comes back to 1.333333 whichever way you look at it.
(I'll shut up now, before I start to look like a maths geek - and let Julian have his thread back)


thanks for the explanation, but what I don't understand is, why the info is displayed differently, surely the info comes from the camera and the image and not change with the software they are viewed on....
You are!
It is minus 1.3 and on spot metering.. Which is why this is 1/5000 sec. The exposure bias adjusts the shutter speed...
Wheels, stick on to matrix metering and correct the exposure bias and you will be fine. I shoot Aperture Priority and Jpeg and no problems

Julian
as above the EV should be 0 to start with or maybe EV -0.3 for better colours
the "spot metering" probably picked up reflections from the water and under-exposed....choose matrix metering
f4 is too low so DOF is shallow - better to use f8/f11 maybe
this will reduce speed from 1/5000 which is FAST
just some comments on my camera - maybe different on yours .......![]()
Thanks Mike, that now makes sense.
Julian make sure you keep any CDs or DVDs from magazines you read as they will have tutorials....
No mate I dont have photoshop...

WTF?
All that money we raised and we forgot to get Julian anything to edit with? :shrug:
We're crap, we are...

You are not crap at all i use picasa it does me.
WTF?
All that money we raised and we forgot to get Julian anything to edit with? :shrug:
We're crap, we are...
It's sorted. I've offered him my old copy of CS3 as I have CS4 and CS5