BEWARE PAYPAL NEW RULES.

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you cant get your payment from paypal because of these new rules


Payment Review has been completed and a temporary hold has been placed on this transaction.

Please post the item right away. We'll release the funds when one of the following occurs:
you receive positive feedback from the buyer
it's been 21 days since the payment date and you haven't received a dispute, claim, chargeback, or reversal on the transaction being held .

SO ive just sold my siggy 10-20mm to a total stranger and he has sent payment to my paypal account and the money wont be released untill he leaves feedback, SO what if he goes on holiday and decides to leave feedback after his 2 week trip, 2 weeks ive got to wait for the money (worst case) and what happens if he damages the lens, then i get poor feed back and a knacked lens and no money, if i had know this i would have asked for bankers draft/postal order.:thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

BEWARE.......
 
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What new rules? I haven't seen any notifications at all. If this is correct my account get's closed. Thanks for the heads up.
 
Hi

Check the email address this came from. I sold a phone once and recieved an email saying the funds had been paid into paypal and would be released to me once I gave them the recorded postal number.

The email was from Paypal@Nigeria-scam-artists.com

Have you sent the lens yet, I hope not and if you have I hope your email did not come from similar people to mine. I did not send the phone but phoned paypal and checked them out
 
scam or not, i've quit using paypal due to crap like this. For me it was down to account verification which I did a couple of years ago, then got asked to do this again earlier this year before they would allow me to withdraw any further funds. Nothing about the account info had changed so why the re-verification?
 
melevo said:
Please post the item right away.
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It's a SCAM! They want you to think you have the funds so you'll post the item.

I hope you haven't posted the item, otherwise you'll never see it or the money again......
 
Unfortunately this is not necessarily a scam :(
Someone I know sold a saddle on ebay for a few hundred pounds, funds were received into her account but Paypal would not let her draw them to her bank account until either the buyer left +ve feedback ot 21 days had passed in case there was a claim. Luckily the buyer left feedback and she was able (after a couple of days) to transfer funds to her account. I don't know what the criteria is for them to hold funds though.

If you do get that sort of email you should always check your account for funds but NOT through the link in the email, always go to the proper paypal site just in case.
 
This is 99% likely to be Paypal. They are putting this hold on all sorts of items and also they are not releasing funds when they should do. Check out the ebay forums for all the moans about this.
 
regardless of whether it is or isn't a scam, I wouldn't ship the lens until the funds have cleared and if it is a genuine Paypal email then I'd be informing them of that.....
 
thanks for response, parcel is ment to be delivered 18/12/08, so time will tell, also sent email to paypal and waiting for returned answer
 
Yes it is a scam, I have had similar a few times. Starting to beecome very wary of using paypal.

Jay
 
melevo said:
thanks for response, parcel is ment to be delivered 18/12/08, so time will tell, also sent email to paypal and waiting for returned answer
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Interestingly when you bought the 10-20 off me, I had the same problem, couldn't get the money for days, finally got it about 13 days after I posted it!

Paypal kept asking me to update my passwords and account security and pu my account "under review" wouldn't let me withdraw the money!
 
Jason Brown said:
Yes it is a scam, I have had similar a few times. Starting to beecome very wary of using paypal.
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Is there any logic in that? The scams aren't from PayPauper. You just need to tune in your anti-scam antennae.
 
puddleduck said:
Interestingly when you bought the 10-20 off me, I had the same problem, couldn't get the money for days, finally got it about 13 days after I posted it!

Paypal kept asking me to update my passwords and account security and pu my account "under review" wouldn't let me withdraw the money!
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that is strange because i got the lens from you, from here. so i should not be any bother....
 
-Paul- said:
I would never use paypal ever,ever,ever!!!!
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i can totally agree with you there, from now on it will only be postal order/ bankers drafts.:bang:
 
A good way to discourage Paypal is to work out the fees, and then just offer them that as a discount if they by cheque or bank transfer. Most folks will take the discount, so its win-win.

Why not offer him a refund, and say £7.50 off if he pays by cheque or BT?
 
RIGHT....
this is what they said.....

PayPal.

Payment has been received - you can now post the item

You've received a payment, detailed below. We've placed a temporary hold on the funds for this transaction.

eBay and PayPal are working together to make it safer than ever to buy on eBay. One of the boldest steps is to identify transactions that pose the greatest risk of fraud and holding the payments from sellers for a period of time to help ensure that the transactions go smoothly.

We'll release the payment for the eBay item if either of the following occurs:

The buyer leaves you positive feedback on eBay.
It's been 21 days since the payment date and you haven't received a dispute, claim, chargeback, or reversal on the transaction being held
Additional hold period

If you receive a dispute, claim, chargeback, or reversal on the transaction, we may hold the payment until the problem is resolved.
 
I personally would not sell under those terms, if you get a dishonest buyer you'll lose the money and the lens...
 
I AM SO PEED OFF!!
 
I've never had anything like that from Paypal in nearly 10 years of using them, it would suggest that they have some suspicions regarding either your Ebay or Paypal account.

Judging by the feedback comment I'd be looking at Ebay as the culprit. Have you had any other transaction difficulties recently?

:EDIT: is your normal stock-in-trade on ebay low value items, by any chance?
 
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ive always had 100% feedback. i pride myself on being true and honest ( your honour ), ive not had any marks against me, i even gave him a slight discount for quick sale, what a mug i am, i should have left alone and let the auction go all the way, but i can say, without a doubt IT wont happen again,


PS i only sell small/ low cost items.
 
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Flash In The Pan said:
wait a second...are you saying you ended the auction early to sell to the highest bidder?
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i sold to this person due to his FEEDBACK. 100%

i thought that was good enough.

and he is local.
 
OK

TBH i have 25 people watching and asking about the lens by PM , would i take it off early, my response was not "let the auction go" then i had a PM from a local person saying would i take £10 less than "buy it now" price, so first thing i did was checked him out. 100% FEEDBACK , local , and considering i had priced it just over everyone else on that large auction site i said YES. what can go wrong. im not saying anything has gone wrong, im just saying that the NEW RULES on ebay/paypal are a joke.
 
im not here to make money, i just want a decent price for a cracking lens. no more nor no less.
 
There are no new rules - you ended the auction early which flags up as a potential fraud/fee avoidance to Ebay. The reason the funds were withheld was simply to ensure you weren't a scammer.

If you want to avoid such things in future you need to play by their rules, it's as simple as that. ;)
 
dont know how that works out.......

he paid the "BUY IT NOW PRICE"

i gave him a returned payment via paypal after the deal was done....

that means they got their money, dont it!!!!
 
You keep adding bits to this story,now you're saying he used Buy it Now and then you refunded his money?

You want to start from the beginning and explain what actually went on? From what you've said so far I'm not surprised your account got flagged!
 
Did he collect it? Your auction stated normal non-tracked 1st-class postage :nono:

I hardly ever sell via eBay, but if sellers know they'll be clobbered for poor trading it makes it safer for buyers. But PayPal should reduce their charges to compensate for potential interest lost (not much, these days) and the hassle.

Bear in mind PayPal is probably used for money laundering. My 10-20mm was shipped from Dubai and the seller had made an effort to hide his true identity. I hope my purchase was linked to nothing more serious than tax evasion.

As an off-ebay seller I've had hassle thanks to a customer's bank querying a transaction and not bothering to check with my customer. I told PayPal that those disputes should be between them and the bank. "Read the rules" they say, so I gave them over a dozen emails to respond to.
 
Flash In The Pan said:
regardless of whether it is or isn't a scam, I wouldn't ship the lens until the funds have cleared and if it is a genuine Paypal email then I'd be informing them of that.....
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but he won't get the funds until the item is confirmed recieved, positive feedback is left (never going to happen without the item) or it's been 21 days with dispute (if I'd paid for something and 7 days later it hadn't turned up there would be a complaint). So following your principle he'll not get his money or shift his lens. Not reall practical in this situation.
 
Kev M said:
but he won't get the funds until the item is confirmed recieved, positive feedback is left (never going to happen without the item) or it's been 21 days with dispute (if I'd paid for something and 7 days later it hadn't turned up there would be a complaint). So following your principle he'll not get his money or shift his lens. Not reall practical in this situation.
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It's a moot point Kev, there's more to this story than Paypal deciding out of the blue to hold onto the money.

They've, rightly or wrongly, decided there was something dodgy going on....
 
I would never never never use e-bay OR paypal again ...........
 
woooohhhh, NO.

how on earth can a flag be made if someone "buys it now"

what i do after that i my business.

what im saying is how can they hold money after a "buy it now" has been agreed and then still hold money.

if i was to sell you something for £10 and you agreed, then the middle man said i will hold the money untill you are happy with that item we would be here all day.

if you "buy it now" then sure you have read the description, considered the cost, weight it up to everything else thats on offer, and click the button...

to end this all im saying is if you do buy anything from an auction site BEWARE they will hold money hold money untill both people are happy with what they have got.
 
But they don't hold the money unless they feel that there is the potential for fraud. They don't just randomly hold onto payments,something you've done has made them take a look at the transaction and decide that there was a potential problem with it.
 
melevo said:
RIGHT....
this is what they said.....

PayPal.

Payment has been received - you can now post the item

You've received a payment, detailed below. We've placed a temporary hold on the funds for this transaction.

eBay and PayPal are working together to make it safer than ever to buy on eBay. One of the boldest steps is to identify transactions that pose the greatest risk of fraud and holding the payments from sellers for a period of time to help ensure that the transactions go smoothly.

We'll release the payment for the eBay item if either of the following occurs:

The buyer leaves you positive feedback on eBay.
It's been 21 days since the payment date and you haven't received a dispute, claim, chargeback, or reversal on the transaction being held
Additional hold period

If you receive a dispute, claim, chargeback, or reversal on the transaction, we may hold the payment until the problem is resolved.
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There is absolutely no way i would post out based on that.

Cleared Funds before post - END OF
 
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