'Best' small cameras? - resolved, thanks

twist said:
Perhaps instead of jumping into a decision you may regret keep the Q for another month. It won't devalue. If you find it' staying at home then sell it.
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Speaking of... M10 and SL both sold now :) just a few lenses to clear..

No one's bought the Q yet - so i still have time.
 
nandbytes said:
was it fast food? :D

Also where better to than a leica forum for unbiased view of the Sony against a leica Q ;)
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I had the RX1R, so when they say 30% faster - I know that's 30% faster than dead slow, is still slow.

I also know the Q is extremely fast :)

I've got a good estimate how the RX1R II AF speed compares :D
 
dancook said:
I had the RX1R, so when they say 30% faster - I know that's 30% faster than dead slow, is still slow.

I also know the Q is extremely fast :)

I've got a good estimate how the RX1R II AF speed compares :D
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RX1RII from what I know has the same AF and sensor as my A7RII which I wouldn't say is slow.
Hmm... Perhaps it's best to try before buying
 
I think i should wait to see if an RX1R III is released this year... I just really love the idea of the RX1R - a tiny powerhouse camera.

and tiny it is.. for FF


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dancook said:
I think i should wait to see if an RX1R III is released this year... I just really love the idea of the RX1R - a tiny powerhouse camera.

and tiny it is.. for FF


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I’d love one too, 35mm as well. My favourite but the price......

I have to settle with my X-pro1 with a 24/1.4 which isn’t the same....
 
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nandbytes said:
RX1RII from what I know has the same AF and sensor as my A7RII which I wouldn't say is slow.
Hmm... Perhaps it's best to try before buying
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Yup. Way better than the original a7r / rx1 af.
 
cambsno said:
I think once you have had FF or DX, its very, very hard to go below that. I am finding myself using the Fuji X100F more and more, and if I was not doing paid work I would seriously consider getting an XT2 and just using Fuji. IQ is excellent and the AF much better.
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Nonsense, I shot FF for years, had a D800E with some very nice [yet very hefty] lenses. I dropped back to APSC [Fuji] and now shoot M43 ... what do I miss about FF? .... not much, cleaner images at high ISO maybe, that's it. I do not miss the huge RAW file sizes that's for sure, and when i did shoot FF I always felt like the longer lenses I had were never long enough. You have to spend an insane amount to get the best of tele world on FF because of that default wide FOV. I found I was cropping a lot, so APSC made more sense. I was right, I was cropping less, and wasn't missing much at all, the D800E wasn't exactly the master of low light and the Fuji cameras can match it no problem in that dept. So why M43? because I always wanted to try the 5-axis Stabilization, I prefer that to cleaner ISO in low light as I don't tend to shoot anything fast moving in those circumstances, unless it's light trails. I think it's easy to switch between, if you don't stress yourself over it. I've seen many go the other way and be disappointed, because they now had that lovely huge brick of FF goodness, but now yearned for nicer lenses they couldn't afford, and then started complaining that everything is a little 'too wide' .... and heavy.

I think you have to 'know' what it is you want before changing, but it certainly isn't "hard" to switch - you wouldn't do it if you hadn't already thought hard on it, would you?
 
The Q isn't offering me a lot over the A9 at the moment, i can make the A9 as near enough as small as the Q - albeit with a slower lens

Q vs A9 by dancook1982, on Flickr
 
dancook said:
The Q isn't offering me a lot over the A9 at the moment, i can make the A9 as near enough as small as the Q - albeit with a slower lens

Q vs A9 by dancook1982, on Flickr
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Those were my thoughts. Then theres also this... the only real difference is the hump, neither are pocketable though.

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twist said:
Those were my thoughts. Then theres also this... the only real difference is the hump, neither are pocketable though.

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Couldn't say I was deeply wedded to 28, time will tell :)

With the Sony I get the tilt screen, upgrade on the AF abilities - particularly as I shoot from hip...

I just look cooler with the Q
 
Raymond Lin said:
I’ll drop the Leica inside 5mins with that grip, or lack or.
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I am glad someone mentioned this... seems rather ergonomically terribad but didn't want to say anything in case I offend someone. Leica users are sometimes touchy :D
 
nandbytes said:
I am glad someone mentioned this... seems rather ergonomically terribad but didn't want to say anything in case I offend someone. Leica users are sometimes touchy :D
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there's a slot for your thumb on the back

I've no problem with it :) but you can get an accessory to add a grip

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dancook said:
Couldn't say I was deeply wedded to 28, time will tell :)

With the Sony I get the tilt screen, upgrade on the AF abilities - particularly as I shoot from hip...

I just look cooler with the Q
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Dan,youd look Kool even with a Kodak instamatic,are you sure you dont want the Oly :ROFLMAO:
 
dancook said:
The M10 and all the rangefinders before it are no different :)

Leica for Sale by dancook1982, on Flickr

it's been this way for 100 years
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I know which is why I didn't say anything, didn't want to offend 100 years worth of people :D

I was buying a voigtlander lens from a guy I had arranged to meet up. He has a leica and soon as he saw me he seemed disappointed that I intended to put his lens on a Sony.
He then tried convincing me Leica's were special and that I should get them instead. I told him I felt about leicas and he almost didn't sell me his lens :D
 
dancook said:
I think i should wait to see if an RX1R III is released this year... I just really love the idea of the RX1R - a tiny powerhouse camera.

and tiny it is.. for FF


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look at it at another angle and its a different story.

x100f seems the obvious choice to me if you don't want a Ricoh GR.
 
rjbell said:
look at it at another angle and its a different story.

x100f seems the obvious choice to me if you don't want a Ricoh GR.
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what's the other angle and story?

x100f too big still i think, to use instead of A9
 
After seeing that panasonic 850 thing, I think my hopes were they were all that small..
 
dancook said:
what's the other angle and story?

x100f too big still i think, to use instead of A9
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I was going to suggest the X100 as well. There's not a great deal in size difference of the body from the Leica q but the lens is much smaller, plus you can get the lens attachments to make it wider or slightly longer (28mm and 50mm IIRC). Be wary of going to small on the bodies, they get fiddly to use.
 
snerkler said:
I was going to suggest the X100 as well. There's not a great deal in size difference of the body from the Leica q but the lens is much smaller, plus you can get the lens attachments to make it wider or slightly longer (28mm and 50mm IIRC). Be wary of going to small on the bodies, they get fiddly to use.
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i liked the RX1R except for it's AF - so i think the size isn't so much an issue. Maybe I should get the II..
 
dancook said:
i liked the RX1R except for it's AF - so i think the size isn't so much an issue. Maybe I should get the II..
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I couldn't get on with the RX100-III due to it being a fraction too small for me (as well as IQ) but the RX1 does slightly bigger. But you know anyway being as you've had one already lol. Will it have all the Leica loveliness like your Q though? I know how much you love the leaf shutter ;)
 
snerkler said:
I couldn't get on with the RX100-III due to it being a fraction too small for me (as well as IQ) but the RX1 does slightly bigger. But you know anyway being as you've had one already lol. Will it have all the Leica loveliness like your Q though? I know how much you love the leaf shutter ;)
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RX1R I/II have a leaf shutter :)

I'm giving up the Q for the A9, the RX1R will be for those times I don't want to have a camera :D but I do
 
If you want small and impressive, the RX100V is the camera to go for. You will take it everywhere - mark my words.

And you know that I like the Leica CL which is diddy and very high quality.

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Tobers said:
If you want small and impressive, the RX100V is the camera to go for. You will take it everywhere - mark my words.

And you know that I like the Leica CL which is diddy and very high quality.

http://j.mp/2ImUd2b
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Do you still have your RX100, or did it completely break, maybe I can take a look sometime?
 
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A bit left-field, but how about a Sigma DP-series Merrill? In the right conditions they deliver stunning image quality in a small package, although the AF is a bit meh!
 
magicolor1 said:
A bit left-field, but how about a Sigma DP-series Merrill? In the right conditions they deliver stunning image quality in a small package, although the AF is a bit meh!
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I had one briefly, basically if you can stay at base ISO or very close to it, the image quality and detail is simply stunning
 
magicolor1 said:
A bit left-field, but how about a Sigma DP-series Merrill? In the right conditions they deliver stunning image quality in a small package, although the AF is a bit meh!
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Yea I'm not going to be working at base iso often.. I don't do much landscape as that involves leaving the house.. i mean getting up early or planning light
 
dancook said:
Yea I'm not going to be working at base iso often.. I don't do much landscape as that involves leaving the house.. i mean getting up early or planning light
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They also have terrible software... horrible camera in most ways except base iso resolution.
 
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