Best cameraphone with decent flash?

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I'm trying to find a good cameraphone that works as a phone. I've had 2 N8s and both have become bricks. The camera is excellent with a xenon flash. I'm struggling to find something else that would be anywhere near as good as even the N86 I have at the moment with the 8mp and led flash.

Looked at HTC desire. Only 5mp no proper flash.

Samsung Galaxy. No flash at all.

N8 with the 12mp and xenon flash is streets ahead of the competition but as it doesn't function as a phone it isn't any good.

Any ideas on which camera phones work as half decent cameras and decent phones? Battery life needs to be half decent too as I'm not messing with silly phones that need charging every day. 3 days light use is the minimum acceptable. Can't be windoze either. Looking at Android or Crackberry mainly.

It takes me ages to find another suitable phone. My N86 won't do calls properly (break up all the time, even with full signal) so I need a replacement but don't want to give up all the features I got it for.

Any ideas? I'm totally fed up as the N8 was a dream spec phone and now it is useless and I'm stuck with a nice krussell case for a phone I can't use!
 
The N95 8Gb was the best cameraphone I've had in recent years. Switched to an HTC Desire and it does a reasonable job both with and without flash - although not spectacular. Good enough for work. Personally, I wouldn't expect too much from any phonecamera sensor >5MP.
 
That's the trouble. The photos out of the N8 are pretty close to a compact camera which is amazing when you think about it.
 
Agree with the N95 comment, I had one of them and it was a great camera...
Now I have an iPhone 4, the camera is ok, but flash is not so good!
 
The SE Satio has a decent camera but the battery life doesn't meet your standards (2 days). SE have the Arc coming out, which is supposed to have a decent camera, running android. The new Samsung Galaxy S 2 coming out has full 1080p video recording, so guessing it must have an alright lens and has dual LED flash. Gonna be expensive though.
TBH you're going to struggle to find a phone with a decent battery life and camera, most smartphones have large touch screens now, and they eat batteries away.
 
LG camera phones are pretty excellent - the LG Renoir and LG Viewty Smart were amazing (had both). I did a few tesst bak then, and the Renoir beat my Panasonic FZ50 at 1600 ISO.
 
Nokia 6220 has an ok camera too, surprising for what it is.. But I'm with the sony crowd for best phone camera just waiting for the micro-slr in a blower now :-P
 
lawrenceots said:
LG camera phones are pretty excellent - the LG Renoir and LG Viewty Smart were amazing (had both). I did a few tesst bak then, and the Renoir beat my Panasonic FZ50 at 1600 ISO.
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Without dragging up an old post... I would agree with the LG Renoir or Viewty - :thinking: have one sitting here doing nowt (must get around to flogging it)...

I was looking at upgrading & was thinking of the Nokia N8... Just how crap is it??
 
Let me know when you're getting to of the Renoir? I'll be very intwreted! :thumbs:

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lawrenceots said:
Let me know when you're getting to of the Renoir? I'll be very intwreted! :thumbs:

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Got a viewty as well going spare - all the bits inc a krussell case & 2gb memory card :whistling:
 
viewfromthenorth said:
I've taken some great photos on the N8 and had no problems with it as a phone - interested to hear what problems people have had with them?
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Glad you said that as I was gonna upgrade my LG Renoir to the Nokia N8... Might just do so now :lol:
 
I'm on my third N8. First one died in a couple of days as it wouldn't open any applications and would constantly freeze. Second one had the purple screen problem and was dead in a few hours. Again, wouldn't open any apps whatsoever. None new had been installed. Clearly corrupted itself. Both phones were running different firmwares. Also the sync app to load data from another N series phone is rubbish. Both would freeze and need resetting frequently.

My current one is slightly better but it reboots itself randomly a couple of times a week and it has the same problem as the N86 with email - it won't sync it after so long so you have to delete the mailbox completely and add it again. It's taken a couple of weeks to do that. The ovi social app also fails to update properly now and then so you have to turn the phone off and on again to make it work.

Camera UI is fairly poor and features such as sequence mode are missing. Picture quality is usually excellent though. If it weren't for the excellent camera this phone would have been binned!

Touchscreen interface isn't very good. It often just ignores input for no reason. The messaging app seems to be the most problematic is it is usually in that when it reboots and the non responsive behaviour usually occurs when you do the 'tap to write message' . It just ignores you sometimes.

The hardware is great but has been let down by Nokia using a shoddy UI that is bug ridden and inconsistent. And you can't take the battery off to reset it or replace it yourself. And in the current firmware release you can't delete the utter crap it has installed like Xfactor and loads of stupid photos. This *really* infuriates me.

There's a new iphone coming out. I'd wait and see what that is like.

There is supposed to be a new symbian release imminent but I wouldn't hold my breath that it will actually make the phone better. It will just introduce different problems.
 
I don't think there is any current phone that can touch the N8 as a camera, but unfortunately, as you've experienced, Symbian OS is a bit outdated and rubbish.

I've given up on Nokia after many years and now moved onto Android. Android is a great OS but the cameras are rubbish and the battery life isn't great.

I think my N95 8GB had the best camera for a phone.
 
srichards said:
I'm on my third N8. First one died in a couple of days as it wouldn't open any applications and would constantly freeze. Second one had the purple screen problem and was dead in a few hours. Again, wouldn't open any apps whatsoever. None new had been installed. Clearly corrupted itself. Both phones were running different firmwares. Also the sync app to load data from another N series phone is rubbish. Both would freeze and need resetting frequently.

My current one is slightly better but it reboots itself randomly a couple of times a week and it has the same problem as the N86 with email - it won't sync it after so long so you have to delete the mailbox completely and add it again. It's taken a couple of weeks to do that. The ovi social app also fails to update properly now and then so you have to turn the phone off and on again to make it work.

Camera UI is fairly poor and features such as sequence mode are missing. Picture quality is usually excellent though. If it weren't for the excellent camera this phone would have been binned!

Touchscreen interface isn't very good. It often just ignores input for no reason. The messaging app seems to be the most problematic is it is usually in that when it reboots and the non responsive behaviour usually occurs when you do the 'tap to write message' . It just ignores you sometimes.

The hardware is great but has been let down by Nokia using a shoddy UI that is bug ridden and inconsistent. And you can't take the battery off to reset it or replace it yourself. And in the current firmware release you can't delete the utter crap it has installed like Xfactor and loads of stupid photos. This *really* infuriates me.

There's a new iphone coming out. I'd wait and see what that is like.

There is supposed to be a new symbian release imminent but I wouldn't hold my breath that it will actually make the phone better. It will just introduce different problems.
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Interesting to read that, I must have got a good 'un as I've had mine 6 months and not experienced any of those technical problems, apart from the odd freeze. It's my first smart phone, and I'm a bit of a luddite when it comes to phones (I change my phones when they wear out or break) so I had no expectations or prior experience of them and I've been pleased with it.
 
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