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I advertised a weeks work doing a garden.....General tidy up and lawn etc.......got lots of replies.......the hourly wage is £8 .......not one would accept the job for less than a tenner and one guy even wanted £15 per hour.........:eek:

Are people greedy or am I disillusioned......
 
Our gardener is £13 per hour, minimum 2 hours.
 
ST4 said:
Why would you do a job for £8ph if you normally do it for £10ph. Most gardiners/landscapers probably work out £10ph plus
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Which is fair enough, but if the job is advertised at £8 an hour and you'd want £10+, then you wouldn't bother responding surely?
 
Alan Clogwyn said:
Which is fair enough, but if the job is advertised at £8 an hour and you'd want £10+, then you wouldn't bother responding surely?
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Depends on the work ... easy job then they might have accepted £8 but when looked at the job might have thought 'no way!'.
 
You are disillusioned! :rolleyes:

I charge £15ph for new customers (but I wouldn't have replied)

You must have a massive jungle for it to be a weeks work. :D
 
I presume you will be supplying all his tools and equipment?

How do you think he can pay for all his gear and make a living wage for £8 or so per hour? Do you know how much pro level gardening gear costs?

A decent mower is close to a grand!!!
 
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mickledore said:
I presume you will be supplying all his tools and equipment?

How do you think he can pay for all his gear and make a living wage for £8 or so per hour? Do you know how much pro level gardening gear costs?

A decent mower is close to a grand!!!
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I am supplying everything......even a brand new John Deere mower....paying for the lunch break and supplying coffee, water and buns.....
 
Tigger.ufo said:
You are disillusioned! :rolleyes:

I charge £15ph for new customers (but I wouldn't have replied)

You must have a massive jungle for it to be a weeks work. :D
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4 Apple trees need taken to bonfire (I have them already cut up ) lawn cut (4 acres with brand new John Deere) and general gardening..'.... it is more than the living wage and I pay for lunch break etc
 
archangel said:
I am supplying everything......even a brand new John Deere mower....paying for the lunch break and supplying coffee, water and buns.....
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I'll do it! I want a go on that mower!!
 
Oh dear. Some folk have no idea. Think of the uproar on here if a wedding tog was offered £8 per hour.

You'll be very lucky to get any gardener to give you an hourly rate. You're more likely to get a price for the job. As soon as an hourly rate is agreed the customer - you I presume - starts clock watching. 19th century mill owners can learn an awful lot from customers paying gardeners an hourly rate.

Sorry but if you insist on paying £8 you will stuggle. Round here you won't even get a reply. Pay peanuts and get monkeys, or as they are known in the wedding section - Uncle Bobs. Do you want an Uncle Bob doing your garden?
 
mickledore said:
Oh dear. Some folk have no idea. Think of the uproar on here if a wedding tog was offered £8 per hour.

You'll be very lucky to get any gardener to give you an hourly rate. You're more likely to get a price for the job. As soon as an hourly rate is agreed the customer - you I presume - starts clock watching. 19th century mill owners can learn an awful lot from customers paying gardeners an hourly rate.

Sorry but if you insist on paying £8 you will stuggle. Round here you won't even get a reply. Pay peanuts and get monkeys, or as they are known in the wedding section - Uncle Bobs. Do you want an Uncle Bob doing your garden?
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Not looking a gardener....looking a Labourer...it is more than the living wage
 
Well then I respectfully suggest that your wording is incorrect. Advertising for a gardener will be very lucky to succeed at those rates.
Advertise for a casual labourer to help you and put the ad in a newsagents or the like and you'll find someone.
I've even heard of approaches being made to the local scout troop. Pay the troop and the leaders will sometimes bring the lads down for a character building exercise, especially if you offer them a bonfire!

People are not greedy, but some customers are "careful" with their money, too much so at times!

Don't know where you are from, but the going rate for a gardener round here is £25/30 per hour. They won't quote an hourly rate, just a price for the job. There's plenty of work at those rates - no need to drop to the levels quoted.

Good luck.
 
archangel said:
It's a total dream... :D
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If I had a lawn large enough for that bad boy, it would be the finest lawnIin all the world. Sadly the rest of the garden would resemble a South American rain forest lol
 
mickledore said:
Well then I respectfully suggest that your wording is incorrect. Advertising for a gardener will be very lucky to succeed at those rates.
Advertise for a casual labourer to help you and put the ad in a newsagents or the like and you'll find someone.
I've even heard of approaches being made to the local scout troop. Pay the troop and the leaders will sometimes bring the lads down for a character building exercise, especially if you offer them a bonfire!

People are not greedy, but some customers are "careful" with their money, too much so at times!

Don't know where you are from, but the going rate for a gardener round here is £25/30 per hour. They won't quote an hourly rate, just a price for the job. There's plenty of work at those rates - no need to drop to the levels quoted.

Good luck.
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I am moving to your area and becoming a gardener....where do you live?
 
viv1969 said:
I'll do it! I want a go on that mower!!
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Me too, sounds great fun. ... And 4 acres to go at ... Wow ... That's some lawn ... Ever thought of keeping sheep/ponies/goats?
 
mickledore said:
Well then I respectfully suggest that your wording is incorrect. Advertising for a gardener will be very lucky to succeed at those rates.
Advertise for a casual labourer to help you and put the ad in a newsagents or the like and you'll find someone.
I've even heard of approaches being made to the local scout troop. Pay the troop and the leaders will sometimes bring the lads down for a character building exercise, especially if you offer them a bonfire!

People are not greedy, but some customers are "careful" with their money, too much so at times!

Don't know where you are from, but the going rate for a gardener round here is £25/30 per hour. They won't quote an hourly rate, just a price for the job. There's plenty of work at those rates - no need to drop to the levels quoted.

Good luck.
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£10 an hour will get you a gardener around here, with equipment supplued by the home owner and a minimum three hours per visit.
 
archangel said:
I am supplying everything......even a brand new John Deere mower... and supplying coffee, water and buns.....
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I don't think I could quite afford £8
Can I offer you £5 / hour ? :D

Tigger.ufo said:
I charge £15ph for new customers (but I wouldn't have replied)
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The local guy here charges £20 for a lawn cut front and back,
Takes him about half an hour.
You're far too cheap Heather :D
 
Quicksnapper said:
Me too, sounds great fun. ... And 4 acres to go at ... Wow ... That's some lawn ... Ever thought of keeping sheep/ponies/goats?
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SOD THE GOATS!! Me me me lol
 
Well just think of the gear a gardener needs to turn out in the morning...

Lawnmower £1000, probably a second one needed for smaller gardens £500
Strimmer with split boom to accomodate pole cutter and long reach chainsaw £600
Hedge trimmer £400
Leaf blower £200
Large and small chainsaws and gear £800
Loppers £70
Secateurs £50
Various hand tools say £200
Sprayers, backpack and hand held £200
Car and trailer/van to carry everything round - name your price.
Secure storage for all the above - there are lots of scrotes around has to be paid for as well.
Petrol & oils for normal running at standard pump prices.
Equipment lasts anything from 3 - 7 years depending on the use it gets. Then it needs to be replaced out of earned income.

Also once a year I have my big mower serviced at a cost of £200/300. Other items serviced or repaired as and when needed.

Work out how to finance that lot and get a decent wage - say one to match your income - and then ask how that can be done out of £8 per hour.

National Minimum wage assumes thet the employer provides everything needed for the job to be done - the employee isn't expected to take his desk into work with him!
 
mickledore said:
Well just think of the gear a gardener needs to turn out in the morning...

Lawnmower £1000, probably a second one needed for smaller gardens £500
Strimmer with split boom to accomodate pole cutter and long reach chainsaw £600
Hedge trimmer £400
Leaf blower £200
Large and small chainsaws and gear £800
Loppers £70
Secateurs £50
Various hand tools say £200
Sprayers, backpack and hand held £200
Car and trailer/van to carry everything round - name your price.
Secure storage for all the above - there are lots of scrotes around has to be paid for as well.
Petrol & oils for normal running at standard pump prices.
Equipment lasts anything from 3 - 7 years depending on the use it gets. Then it needs to be replaced out of earned income.

Also once a year I have my big mower serviced at a cost of £200/300. Other items serviced or repaired as and when needed.

Work out how to finance that lot and get a decent wage - say one to match your income - and then ask how that can be done out of £8 per hour.

National Minimum wage assumes thet the employer provides everything needed for the job to be done - the employee isn't expected to take his desk into work with him!
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OP already said everything provided.
I think quibbling over the term gardener is a bit OTT :-)
 
Cobra said:
The local guy here charges £20 for a lawn cut front and back,
Takes him about half an hour.
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Timed the window cleaner last week, from opening the gate to leaving it open again when he left, 7m 22 secs. £9.00 please.
What's that, hourly rate! (just under 75 quid?) and he didn't do the 2 side windows!
 
viv1969 said:
OP already said everything provided.
I think quibbling over the term gardener is a bit OTT :)
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I'm struggling to work out what he actually wants. He says he's cut up his apple trees but wants someone to move them for him????
A strange approach.
He wants someone to work for the minimum he thinks he can pay them, but if he can afford a John Deere then the assumption is that he has never worked for £8 per hour.
Sounds a bit like the laird up at the big house dispensing his favours to the poor people in the village, providing they doff their caps to him.
 
mickledore said:
I'm struggling to work out what he actually wants. He says he's cut up his apple trees but wants someone to move them for him????
A strange approach.
He wants someone to work for the minimum he thinks he can pay them, but if he can afford a John Deere then the assumption is that he has never worked for £8 per hour.
Sounds a bit like the laird up at the big house dispensing his favours to the poor people in the village, providing they doff their caps to him.
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Oh dear. Methinks someone might be taking it too seriously :lol:
 
wontolla said:
Timed the window cleaner last week, from opening the gate to leaving it open again when he left, 7m 22 secs. £9.00 please.
What's that, hourly rate! (just under 75 quid?) and he didn't do the 2 side windows!
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Then don't pay him and do it yourself. Personally I think £9 is a bargain for not having to do that.
 
Byker28i said:
Then don't pay him and do it yourself. Personally I think £9 is a bargain for not having to do that.
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A bargain for seven and a half minutes work?
 
archangel said:
I advertised a weeks work doing a garden.....General tidy up and lawn etc.......got lots of replies.......the hourly wage is £8 .......not one would accept the job for less than a tenner and one guy even wanted £15 per hour.........:eek:

Are people greedy or am I disillusioned......
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Assuming a 40 hour week, you were willing to pay £320, but not £400. How much did the Deere cost? Yes I guess some people are greedy.
 
viv1969 said:
A bargain for seven and a half minutes work?
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My window cleaner is £25. It's not 7.5 mins work though is it, what about travel time, setup time,

...or should we apply only the time photographers take photos... Bloody ripoff those wedding photographers... :D
 
mickledore said:
I'm struggling to work out what he actually wants. He says he's cut up his apple trees but wants someone to move them for him????
A strange approach.
He wants someone to work for the minimum he thinks he can pay them, but if he can afford a John Deere then the assumption is that he has never worked for £8 per hour.
Sounds a bit like the laird up at the big house dispensing his favours to the poor people in the village, providing they doff their caps to him.
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Deff not the laird......I price everything accordingly......if you were a qualified gardener with your own equipment I would quite happily pay £20 plus....but I am supplying the equipment, paid lunch breaks, buns and a week's work.....mostly clearing up......it is not rocket science, it doesn't need a degree...... it is only clearing up and lawn mowing....... I was even offering cash in hand.......

I work hard and expect a decent wage for my experience and what I can bring to the job....I am offering the same a decent wage in return for a decent days work with benefits....it is not slave Labour
 
PatrickO said:
Assuming a 40 hour week, you were willing to pay £320, but not £400. How much did the Deere cost? Yes I guess some people are greedy.
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Sorry buddy not greed....I work bloody hard for what I have......and normally I do all the garden stuff too but I am too busy otherwise I would quite happily do it myself.....
 
Gotta say that I generally agree with the angel here. A young fit lad,
would, well should anyway be happy to do a decent day's work for that sort of money.
However there are too many that would rather sit on the dole than get off their arses ;)

TBH the school colleges are about to break up, I'd wait a couple of weeks
and try and get a student in,
That should keep them supplied in pot noodles for a term or two :D
 
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