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At 9.00pm BBC2 tonight there's a wildlife documentary made by Chris Packham & co. They created a waterhole in the middle of wildlife territory on the Tanzanian plains, sat back and let the cameras roll. The write-up states that,unlike many other such documentaries, there's no doomsday narrative re demise brought about by mankind, it states..'Just the wildlife going about their daily lives coming across a watering hole"A lot to learn about animal behaviour too. They have a suggested answer to why zebras have stripes. I've heard one explanation that as they run the black/white bands play on the predators vision and confuse it giving time for escape. I assume this is what will be revealed.

Well, there's nothing else worth watching :D
 
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Thanks John for the heads up on this program, just watched it this morning........I found it very interesting with some lovely scenes captured.
 
I don't like Chris Packham; he was very rude when we tried to negotiate for him to lecture in our town. Formula 1 is on tonight so cannot say there is nothing. Not to mention Netflix, Amazon Prime and the many programmes already recorded.

Dave
 
I don't like Chris Packham; he was very rude when we tried to negotiate for him to lecture in our town. Formula 1 is on tonight so cannot say there is nothing. Not to mention Netflix, Amazon Prime and the many programmes already recorded.

Dave


I have heard that he can be like that but bear in mind he has Aspergers syndrome. He was subject of a BBC documentary about how he lives with it.

These are two copy/pastes from long articles. The bold type in the second extract was in the article.

'One common characteristic of people with Asperger's is that we are more or less blind to the non verbal communications of others. As a result, we find ourselves forever saying and doing the wrong thing, with the best of intentions. We're described as arrogant, aloof, uncaring and inconsiderate.'


1.TALKING DIFFERENTLY.
People with Aspergers might be more factual than normal.
Instead of telling stories to get a point across, they will be direct.
They might also not be as prone to pausing and allowing interaction when they are speaking about something they care about.
They have no intention of being rude, they just are not as easily aware as you might be about how a conversation is ‘supposed’ to go. And they are passionate about what they like.

2. A LACK OF NONVERBAL BEHAVIOURS.
Gestures and facial expressions can be less, or even missing. It’s just not the way an Aspie communicates.

3. LITTLE TO NO EYE CONTACT.
It’s common for someone with Asperger’s to not naturally make eye contact. It simply doesn’t feel natural for them.
If you tell them about it, they might then try extra hard to look you in the eye and then overdo it. They are doing their best, they just don’t have the same inbuilt feeling for eye contact that you might.

4. NOT ONE FOR SOCIAL GRACES.
What many people consider ‘normal manners’ may not be intuitive for someone with Asperger’s.
They can walk away when you are talking, invite you over for dinner then ignore you, open the door to let you into their house and look at you then walk off….
You might assume they are being rude. Not at all. They simply don’t have the same natural understanding of society’s ‘rules’ and have to learn them and work hard to keep them up.

Re my 'nothing else worth watching' comment ...I did put a 'grin' emoji. It was tongue in cheek. Clearly what I have no interest in ,others do. I only watch, news (UK channels along with CNN and CNBC documentaries, (many on PBS America) football and international rugby and record nothing. All that takes up as much time as I would want to spend watching tv.

Re Formula 1. I took another look at yesterday's listings, which I get with my Saturday paper, for the week ahead and it's quite comprehensive but couldn't see it. Sky run a lot of sport on three of its channels..Sky Main Event..Sky Premier League..Sky Cricket but it was mainly cricket and boxing. I see that BBC2 had Uk Championship snooker on at 11.20pm. ITV4 had 'Elite Wrestling'..no idea what that is. I've just Googled how to see Formula 1 in the UK. I see Sky have a dedicated channel to it.. To be fair,I don't consider a recorded programme as 'being on'. Being on ,for me means live.

However, I do take your point and, as I mentioned, I was referring to what I saw in the regular listings section. Netflix and Amazon Prime (you highlighted them )aren't featured atall. We don't have the Netflix App.I do acknowledge that there's a world of tv entertainment..sport..films..niche interests etc out there that I'm not aware of. I only know we have to have a Netflix app to watch it because Googled it just now.
 
For me, Chris Packham is worth the TV licence alone,
 
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Yes I know about his Aspergers but not replying to a offer is no way to do business. He should let his Secretary or someone else handle bookings etc. We hired Guy Edwardes instead who was great.

Dave
 
The fellow did a talk a few years ago locally and after he came across as rude, wasn't interested in anything anyone was saying
Asperger's syndrome or not he is not a nice fellow.

I wont watch anything he is on.
 
Maybe he did and didn't know anything about it?
I was not the one negotiating but a member of the event team. The person who negotiated with him was speaking directly to Chris who was unfriendly and we offered the normal amount at the time for such photographers but he turned this down and asked for twice the amount, We were instructed by our Chairman to compromise and offer mid point between his greedy demand and our offer, He did not even reply (though opened the email) which was a blessing because we would have lost money even if we sold all tickets, We have happily booked Charlie Waite, David Noton, Guy Edwardes, Colin Prior, Will Chung and others. All of these were easy to deal with and very friendly as well as showing us excellent images.

Dave
 
The fellow did a talk a few years ago locally and after he came across as rude, wasn't interested in anything anyone was saying
Asperger's syndrome or not he is not a nice fellow.

I wont watch anything he is on.

I was not the one negotiating but a member of the event team. The person who negotiated with him was speaking directly to Chris who was unfriendly and we offered the normal amount at the time for such photographers but he turned this down and asked for twice the amount, We were instructed by our Chairman to compromise and offer mid point between his greedy demand and our offer, He did not even reply (though opened the email) which was a blessing because we would have lost money even if we sold all tickets, We have happily booked Charlie Waite, David Noton, Guy Edwardes, Colin Prior, Will Chung and others. All of these were easy to deal with and very friendly as well as showing us excellent images.

Dave


First off, as Bob alluded to, I wouldn't not watch the series because of this aspect of his personality. Steve ((jakeblu) clearly sees value in documentaries he's featured in and I agree.It's not only the Spring and Autumn Watch series. I saw him in the Antarctic on a tv documentary in 2018.

When two people relate the same experience I wanted to dig in a bit more. I found this article (which refers to the programme about him that I mentioned.


I found this paragraph troubling.

What is a relationship for if not reciprocal intimacy and support? The show completely glossed over his really unpleasant attitude to humans in general, and Charlotte in particular. In addition, I'm concerned that the show may have given the impression that treating a partner with such disdain is acceptable.

This is from another article
Chris does have a long-term partner who he has been with for 10 years but they don’t live together. Charlotte Corney, owner of Isle of Wight Zoo, describes him as as sometimes “like an alien” and admits it is “hard to deal with his lack of empathy”.

“I have a friend’s wedding coming up but I haven’t even mentioned it to him as I know he wouldn’t want to come,” says Charlotte.


I've done a bit of Googling and learnt a lot about how people with Aspergers interact. How many of the negative aspects are purely down to that condition and how many because they just don't like people and are rude, I don't know. The greatest love in Chris Packham's life were his poodles Itchy and Scratchy .Both have died. He said of Itchy (I think it was Itchy) " I love him more than anything else in my life". Obviously including his partner,Charlotte. When Itchy died Packham was bereft and kept the dog's body in a freezer to help him come to terms with it.Now Scratchy has died. He referred to them as his 'autism-assistant' animals. Like blind people have guide dogs.

Despite knowing someone has this condition and how they interact I can imagine it's still difficult to accept.
 
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