Bad dog owner

The photograph makes me wonder if the woman has a history of biting.
 
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I agree with you. She probably panicked and was scared but it's no excuse.
 
No Excuse for the owner having the dog there in the first place but when will people start telling their kids not to approach dogs unless the owner says ok?
 
ST4 said:
Or for owners to keep dogs on leads in public places.
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That's open to argument to an extent, it depend on the dog, how you define a public place, are there kids around and so on. You're not wrong but it's not black and white either.
 
Reading the report dogs are banned from the beach so she's bang to rights! A bloody stupid thing to do particularly if the dogs not friendly asking for trouble.
 
Overexposed said:
Its a moot point when she shouldn't have had the dog there anyway!
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Why? Edit: sorry, just seen they're banned for the summer.

It's always horrible to hear of children being bitten by dogs, but as is often the case I expect there's more to the story.
I'm a dog owner myself and I admit I don't always have my dog on a lead, especially somewhere like the beach. I do however tell people not to approach unless I feel it's ok. I've never seen my dog be aggressive, but it's not a chance I'd want to take. I don't want him getting startled and reacting the wrong way especially when its just someone trying to be friendly to him.
 
Mandoo said:
Why?

It's always horrible to hear of children being bitten by dogs, but as is often the case I expect there's more to the story.
I'm a dog owner myself and I admit I don't always have my dog on a lead, especially somewhere like the beach. I do however tell people not to approach unless I feel it's ok. I've never seen my dog be aggressive, but it's not a chance I'd want to take. I don't want him getting startled and reacting the wrong way especially when its just someone trying to be friendly to him.
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Its a pity more people don't have your attitude - I have 2 Golden Retrievers who'd lick you to death but i'm always wary around kids as I don't want to scare them or put the dogs in a difficult situation
 
Looks like an irresponsible dog owner if you're out in public with your pet you have got to keep an eye on what's happening
It looks like the toddler approached the dog
The dog owner and indeed the kids parents should have stopped this happening
I'm not anti dog but out of control dogs are a nightmare when I'm out in parks and nature reserves chasing insects
 
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Having been through Skegness last week I cant say I am at all surprised.
 
Off lead does not necessarily mean out of control.
I would prefer to see a well trained dog off the lead than a savage dog on a lead.
 
its both really dog owner should keep dogs under control (and out of areas where they shouldn't be) . parents should keep children under control and away from dogs they don't know.
 
Cobra said:
Both of mine had reins, once they started to walk "outside"
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Actually not only did it keep them under control, but saved a few face plants, when they fell over their own feet, just yank'em back up again :D
 
Surely the police would have more joy if they released a photo of the owner? [/cheap]
 
ST4 said:
Whilst I cannot stand unruly children, unruly dogs and their vile owners I cannot stand. Facial ballistic trauma is the only solution.
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Are you related to Dr Zeuss?
 
Overexposed said:
No Excuse for the owner having the dog there in the first place but when will people start telling their kids not to approach dogs unless the owner says ok?
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Have you met a jack Russell? Not approaching it is the least of your concerns. When those little things aren't in the lead they yak, try to bark, run around, jump up. Just can't stand the breed. My dog always looks at them like they've got some mental problems.

But simply, the woman should have kept it under control, I.e. on the lead, no excuses. And further more given her details. Shame on her. I like it how her picture has been published.
 
bindex said:
That's open to argument to an extent, it depend on the dog, how you define a public place, are there kids around and so on. You're not wrong but it's not black and white either.
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I understand the law to be quite clear on this, and unless I'm mistaken "under control" does mean using a lead at the very least. Either way on a busy beach like that some common sense should be applied. I wouldn't think firstly to take my dog there, and secondly leave it off the lead. And mine is pretty darn responsive to commands.
 
dejongj said:
I understand the law to be quite clear on this, and unless I'm mistaken "under control" does mean using a lead at the very least. Either way on a busy beach like that some common sense should be applied. I wouldn't think firstly to take my dog there, and secondly leave it off the lead. And mine is pretty darn responsive to commands.
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Being on a lead doesn't necessarily equate to being under control,surely you have seen people being dragged all over the place by a dog, or barring and snarling
at passing things.
I had 2 dogs that behaved perfectly off lead, walked to heel, responded to commands instantly, put them on a lead and it was a totally different story, I can only think that
being attached meant they didn't have to concentrate on me who knows, who really understands how dogs' minds work?

Not all JRs are like you stereotype, many are lovely little things, again an owner problem, but taking any dog to a hot crowded beach, whether it's allowed or
not isn't fair on the dog and if it was lying under the woman's deck chair and a kid came and annoyed it ..................................................................................!!!
Unless she is identified we will never know
 
Gremlin said:
Being on a lead doesn't necessarily equate to being under control,surely you have seen people being dragged all over the place by a dog, or barring and snarling
at passing things.
I had 2 dogs that behaved perfectly off lead, walked to heel, responded to commands instantly, put them on a lead and it was a totally different story, I can only think that
being attached meant they didn't have to concentrate on me who knows, who really understands how dogs' minds work?

Not all JRs are like you stereotype, many are lovely little things, again an owner problem, but taking any dog to a hot crowded beach, whether it's allowed or
not isn't fair on the dog and if it was lying under the woman's deck chair and a kid came and annoyed it ..................................................................................!!!
Unless she is identified we will never know
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I agree, but if an owner can't control a dog that is on a lead maybe they shouldn't have that dog and most definitely don't go into public places. A large part of it is also perception, we've got a rather eccentric lady living in our road who from a distance is already shouting and ranting if your dog is not on a lead on a bridle path. It is just not worth the hassle to leave them off the lead regardless of how well you can control them. One thing you are certain about, if they are on a lead you can give them a yank if they don't obey the command, if they run off you most definitely don't have control.

Mine are 98% of the time off lead, but out of precaution when around unknown people or build up areas I just put them on the lead.

I'm sure they are, I've never met them though :( But I have to admit that I can't stand most little dogs, ankle biters I call them..so much noise and fuss about nothing.

But as per usual there is so much detail missing with this story, did the child disturb the dog that was peacefully laying down? If so, what did the child do? I've seen some treat animals in a way it doesn't surprise me they get a reaction. Or did the dog get up and go after the child? Did the dog actually bite or was it merely playing? Some children and parents can totally overreact about nothing. I remember when ours was puppy explaining to my children that a dog has got hands, it will pickup things with its mouth. That doesn't mean it is biting you at all....So little information in this story...
 
The two l mentioned could most certainly pose a threat !
l was walking through the woods and as normal they were out of sight enjoying themselves ,or so l thought, a bloke stepped, out pants round his knees,
and said something, almost immediately he had 2 dogs threatening his crown jewels ! Obviously he hadn't realised they were about!
l still laugh remembering the sight of a grown man trying to run with his trousers round his knees :ROFLMAO:
In case you are wondering, no the dogs never touched him, shame as the police said, dna would have been useful;)
 
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personally i think the woman is in a sheer panic as she knows if caught up with the gooders will have her dog put down without any question .yep she was in the wrong having on a beach but that shows in her face .its the poor dog that i feel sorry for as it was doing what a dog does and probably protecting its owner who might well have dozed off in the heat ,we were not there and don't know the full circumstances so stop being judge and jury .

its a dogs life at stake here
 
dejongj said:
Have you met a jack Russell? Not approaching it is the least of your concerns. When those little things aren't in the lead they yak, try to bark, run around, jump up. Just can't stand the breed. My dog always looks at them like they've got some mental problems.

But simply, the woman should have kept it under control, I.e. on the lead, no excuses. And further more given her details. Shame on her. I like it how her picture has been published.
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Agree totally, they are Terriers and are feisty but that said it shouldn't have been there in the first place
 
We don't know the circumstances of this incident. Did the dog dash out from under the owner's chair and bite the child or did the child get too close to the dog and then it bit?

We don't know on which beach/part of the beach this happened. The Skegness.net site says -


“Dogs are banned from the busiest part of Skegness beach between 1 May and 30 September.”


The report in the Linclonshire Echo includes -

“Police are taking this opportunity to remind dog owners that dogs must be kept on a lead on the beach”


which suggests it happened in an area where dogs are allowed.


Although the report says the dog was not on a lead we only have one side of the story, though from the photo it doesn't appear to be on a lead.



However, I feel this is an example of an irresponsible dog owner. The photo shows a very busy beach which I think is not the ideal place for a dog. Sticking it under a chair is also not great. Yes, it keeps the dog out of the sun but it is going to get bored/frustrated – outside but not able to have a run about and a good sniff at everything.


It is sad that a child has been hurt and also that, should the owner be found, there is a risk that the dog will be put down when the fault appears to rest with at least one of the humans involved.

Dave
 
Tringa said:
We don't know the circumstances of this incident. Did the dog dash out from under the owner's chair and bite the child or did the child get too close to the dog and then it bit?

We don't know on which beach/part of the beach this happened. The Skegness.net site says -


“Dogs are banned from the busiest part of Skegness beach between 1 May and 30 September.”


The report in the Linclonshire Echo includes -

“Police are taking this opportunity to remind dog owners that dogs must be kept on a lead on the beach”


which suggests it happened in an area where dogs are allowed.


Although the report says the dog was not on a lead we only have one side of the story, though from the photo it doesn't appear to be on a lead.



However, I feel this is an example of an irresponsible dog owner. The photo shows a very busy beach which I think is not the ideal place for a dog. Sticking it under a chair is also not great. Yes, it keeps the dog out of the sun but it is going to get bored/frustrated – outside but not able to have a run about and a good sniff at everything.


It is sad that a child has been hurt and also that, should the owner be found, there is a risk that the dog will be put down when the fault appears to rest with at least one of the humans involved.

Dave
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A reasoned, insightful and thought out reply? You are aware this is Out of Focus are you? ;)
 
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