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Hi all,

I've been asked to do some studio portrait shots but I haven't got a studio or backdrop.

So 2 options are to find somewhere for a permanent studio or rent a local hall.

I currently have a couple of Lencarta studio lights but no backdrops.

What options are there regarding backdrops or backdrop equipment? Permanent options? portable options? on the cheap or expensive options?
 
You have so many options but depends on what you mean by studio sessions, if you are shooting headshots 3/4 body a white wall would do the job, 3 lights ideally (2 for background though can be done with one). Then there are paper rolls available from places like Calumet from about £30 for narrow to £55 for wide rolls, any colour you could want. You will need a supporting bar, about £30 quid if you have a couple of spare stands else you need a background support kit, nearer £100. Then you have vinyl rolls, about £150 which are harder wearing but really heavy. Then the Lastolite Highlight which I think is about £200-300 depending on options. Or you can rent a studio, which in my area (Notts) ranges from £30 for 2 hours, £65 for half a day or £650 a day for the best studio in town.
 
Further to the options listed above, for a cheap option, you can buy collapsible backdrops off eBay (I got a PhotoSel one recently) for around £50, or £74 with a train in black/white/grey/chromagreen etc. You can then hang them off a lightstand, no problem.

The real problem is folding them back up ;-)
 
Are you going to get future use out of any background kit that you buy? If it is a one off then you may be better off hiring a studio.

I don't know of anywhere in Market Drayton but try googling greengate studios. They are in Tunstall so only about 40 minutes away from you. I'm not sure of the cost but was going to look into it to get my portfolio built up.

If you intend to use the kit further then you need to consider what you are trying to achieve. High key, low key, etc. Low key dark background can be done fairly easily but if you want a clean white background then you need lots of space or a hilite.

I use a background stand system with a white muslin sheet. It is a complete pain in tight spaces and needs loads of PP. As soon as I have the money I will be buying a hilite.

HTH,

Andy
 
can i just hijack with a relevent question, how does paper, vinyl and muslin compare to one another. obviously the big issue is creases and durability. I'm guessing vinyl would be the best - wouldnt paper easily rip?
 
can i just hijack with a relevent question, how does paper, vinyl and muslin compare to one another. obviously the big issue is creases and durability. I'm guessing vinyl would be the best - wouldnt paper easily rip?

Good question, each has their advantages and disadvantages...
Paper doesn't tear all that easily but it does crease easily. When used in a 'sweep' it needs to be on a hard surface, not on a carpet, where it will become damaged by heels immediately.
It's also very wasteful, when bought in short rolls for home use - 11 metres isn't a lot when it's 2.5 meters tall and there's 3 metres on the floor - you can't cut off many damaged bits before you run out:'(

Vinyl is popular and it does have some benefits, but not all vinyls are equal! Some of the vinyl backgrounds sold for photography don't clean as easily as people expect, some of them are far too shiny and some aren't what I personally would describe as white...
The weight of vinyl depends on the quality, but even if you get a true white, with a smooth enough surface to clean but not so smooth that it creates glare, vinyl is extremely heavy compared to other materials, this isn't a problem for permanent setups but it can be a real problem for 'mobile' photographers, and it requires very secure fixing for safe use.

Muslin (AKA cotton) is by far the cheapest option and it can go into the washing machine. Again, quality can vary from one supplier to another and IMO it doesn't pay to go for the cheapest.
Apart from cost, it can be machine washed and tumble dried, although it should never be dried fully, as this creates creasing problems. It's also much easier to transport and store.
Some people report problems with creases but that's only really a problem with unlit backgrounds. White backgrounds, overlit to create the (so called) high key effect, lose whatever creases they have. And creases can be avoided by stretching it and clamping or taping the edges to the side of the background support and the floor. And spraying the background with a plant sprayer is a big help too.

Illuminated backgrounds are expensive but popular, and most people seem to be happy with them unless they have a plastic 'train' on the floor, which needs to be lit separately. They save space but IMO the whole concept is flawed, because the light is pointing directly towards the camera, which destroys contrast and makes it likely that fine detail (especially hair) is lost. I frequently see shots on this and other forums with these problems that I personally would move straight to trash, but it seems I'm in a minority because a lot of people don't even seem to see the problem, let alone want to do anything about it.

If there are no budget considerations, I advise paper, with muslin, vinyl and illuminated backgrounds as 2nd, 3rd and 4th choices - for most people, most of the time.
 
Just an addendum to Garry's post, If you use paper you can use it on carpet if you put a sheet of hardboard underneath, this is what I do.
Good point
 
Thats a good post Gary summarising the pro's and cons of each. If you were going with paper what would be a sensible selection of colours to have?
 
That depends, on a lot of things including the effects you want to create, the type of lighting equipment you have, your level of skill and the amount of space - so no real answer to that one.

But I suppose the most useful colours are white and a mid grey - white for obvious reasons, grey because it can be lit or unlit, it can create pastel colours or deeply saturated colours when lit with gels.

I'm Welsh by the way, if you spell my name like a yank we could fall out... :)
 
Donald, I have some paper here if you want to have a play. I was given part of a roll by ..MD..

Backgrounds are my missing thing at the moment. I only have the HiLite (chav ground as named by Garry :lol:) plus the dk grey wall or natural muslin. I do like those ones that come in a bag and pop out into a frame, again ..md.. had a really nice looking one that I wanted to steal :lol:
 
wow, lots of info :)

Well I had 3 properties to look at that would of been perfect for a studio, 1 buy and 2 rent and they have all fallen through so it looks like i'll be renting the local hall for a while.

and as I can't see me fitting a 2m roll of paper in the car it looks like I'll be using vinyl or material :) Need to get a stand setup now and an extra couple of lights and modifiers :S
 
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