Baby girl killed in dog attack in Daventry

Cg_Girl said:
That's ridiculous isn't it, i can understand resources are always limited but when 'something' is a possible danger to people then that should be a necessity, not wait till something awful like this happens...

Maybe everyone reporting to RSPCA would be worth a shot
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Well, the RSPCA have absolutely no powers, so unless the police choose to take more notice of them than they do of other members of the public, I don't think that could achieve anything.
 
Gremlin said:
You forgot to the the laughing smiley after that Trace.
The RSPCA won't get involved unless the dog is being mistreated
They are next to useless for this sort of thing
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Too many words:)
 
Gremlin said:
You forgot to the the laughing smiley after that Trace.
The RSPCA won't get involved unless the dog is being mistreated
They are next to useless for this sort of thing
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Garry Edwards said:
Well, the RSPCA have absolutely no powers, so unless the police choose to take more notice of them than they do of other members of the public, I don't think that could achieve anything.
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Damn i didn't know that, i thought they could
 
Gremlin said:
You forgot to the the laughing smiley after that Trace.
The RSPCA won't get involved unless the dog is being mistreated
They are next to useless for this sort of thing
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The clue as to their purpose is in the name.
Otherwise it would be the RSPTKD
 
they can gather evidence the take it to the police for action , the usually have a good relationship with their local cops.

course in this case if the guy is a drug dealer its possible the drug squad have an ongoinginvestigation that uniform are reluctant to step on
 
So can members of the public, who are probably in a better position (say, neighbours), than the RSPCA to gather such evidence.
But as usual it may be a case of “Oh, I don’t like what I’m seeing, but I don’t want to get involved.”
 
Last time I was involved in anything like that, it was to take pictures in a suspected cruelty case, and it was the Cat's Protection League
that were getting involved not the RSPCA
 
As a case of cruelty, does it matter who gets involved, as long as one of them does? :thinking:
 
Gremlin said:
The RSPCA won't get involved unless the dog is being mistreated
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And only then if its a high profile case with loads of "good fund raising / publicity" opportunities ;)
 
Absolutely shocking that the authorities sit back and do nothing when this type of thing happens :banghead:
 
Neil B said:
Absolutely shocking that the authorities sit back and do nothing when this type of thing happens :banghead:
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We don't know that for sure, its been established that it was a "dangerous / prohibited breed" under the eyes of the law.
I guess there will be consequences.
Whether or not we agree that they go far enough remains to be seen, from any resulting court case.
 
ST4 said:
The dogs being killed. The owner will be prosecuted for having a banned breed. That's fair as that is their crime
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The dog was destroyed at the scene.
The prosecution(s), if any remain to be seen.
 
ST4 said:
If they escape the dangerous dog one I will be surprised. The CPS will get an easy one.
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A worthless prosecution.
A slap on the wrist, a small fine possibly and a ban on keeping dogs for a little while. Whoopdedoo.
 
Highly unlikely we will ever know the outcome, seems to drop off the reporting once the initial shock is over.
She could say she didn't know what breed the dog was and bought it under the impression it was a crosbreed
or a staffie.
viv1969 said:
A worthless prosecution.
A slap on the wrist, a small fine possibly and a ban on keeping dogs for a little while. Whoopdedoo.
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Ban on keeping dogs ? I doubt it unless
she was mistreating the dog
 
Gremlin said:
Highly unlikely we will ever know the outcome, seems to drop off the reporting once the initial shock is over.
She could say she didn't know what breed the dog was and bought it under the impression it was a crosbreed
or a staffie.


Ban on keeping dogs ? I doubt it unless
she was mistreating the dog
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Hence the "possibly".
 
viv1969 said:
A worthless prosecution.
A slap on the wrist, a small fine possibly and a ban on keeping dogs for a little while. Whoopdedoo.
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What do you think should happen to them? Jail. Where's the public good in that. The menace is their dog and the lack of control they have over dogs. Take dogs away from them and they are no issue.
 
ST4 said:
What do you think should happen to them? Jail. Where's the public good in that. The menace is their dog and the lack of control they have over dogs. Take dogs away from them and they are no issue.
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Read through the thread again Steve. Not going to go over it again with you.
 
ST4 said:
What do you think should happen to them? Jail. Where's the public good in that. The menace is their dog and the lack of control they have over dogs. Take dogs away from them and they are no issue.
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Oh come on that's a tad naive.
The dog has been destroyed at the time of the attack, so no longer an issue.
But if they don't have the sense to keep a dog away from the child, then what makes
you think there won't be other problems ?
 
Gremlin said:
Oh come on that's a tad naive.
The dog has been destroyed at the time of the attack, so no longer an issue.
But if they don't have the sense to keep a dog away from the child, then what makes
you think there won't be other problems ?
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Maybe ban them from having children too. What good will jailing them do?

Thing should be to get all these bad dogs handed over in an Amnesty and if there are any other attacks after an amnesty, then the owners face long jail stretches. I think there should be a nationwide campaign, amnesty, to get illegal breeds off the streets and destroyed, then if they are found on people after this, big jail stretches. That could work.

The animal rights %%%%tards will have a hissy fit, but screw em
 
ST4 said:
Maybe ban them from having children too. What good will jailing them do?
Thing should be to get all these bad dogs handed over in an Amnesty and if there are any other attacks after an amnesty, then the owners face long jail stretches. I think there should be a nationwide campaign, amnesty, to get illegal breeds off the streets and destroyed, then if they are found on people after this, big jail stretches. That could work.
The animal rights %%%%tards will have a hissy fit, but screw em
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An amnesty was offered when the law first came in, you could get the dog registered and nuetured
which should mean that there are none about now, or only very old ones.
But like everything it didn't happen and no one seems bothered until something happens :(
 
Gremlin said:


An amnesty was offered when the law first came in, you could get the dog registered and nuetured
which should mean that there are none about now, or only very old ones.
But like everything it didn't happen and no one seems bothered until something happens :(
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That I didn't know. Never knew there was an amnesty for these. I'm not sure now whether the vendor of the dog should be pursued or the parents but the crime of keeping a banned dog needs prosecuted. Still wouldn't jail them though.
 
ST4 said:
That I didn't know. Never knew there was an amnesty for these.
I'm not sure now whether the vendor of the dog should be pursued or the parents but the crime of keeping a banned dog needs prosecuted. Still wouldn't jail them though.
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There still is a sort of amnesty in the odd case that they can be bothered with, the dogs are checked on, they have the power to seize the dog
amd carry out various test which if the dog faile it is destroyed.
Yes I agree it should be those that are still breeding them that should suffer the consequences but rarely do
 
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