Avoiding blue windows - WB question

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Shooting without flash with window's in the background tends to result in blue windows when you correct WB for the people inside. Do you apply a layer and adjust WB for outside independently from inside so the windows don't look blue?
 
The problem is white balance , daylight is different from lighting inside building. . To avoid these problems take the shots in a different area in the building if you can
 
gilbouk said:
Shooting without flash with window's in the background tends to result in blue windows when you correct WB for the people inside. Do you apply a layer and adjust WB for outside independently from inside so the windows don't look blue?
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No

Dave
 
steve_lyt said:
just avoid the situation , is the only way
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I had the unfortunately situation where the entire backdrop behind the Bride during a Ceremony was a window (conservatory style) - and there was quite a differentiation between the WB outside and inside.
 
gilbouk said:
I had the unfortunately situation where the entire backdrop behind the Bride during a Ceremony was a window (conservatory style) - and there was quite a differentiation between the WB outside and inside.
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So ??? Happens to me (and everyone else) all the time, no-one I know bothers about it, get the Bride 'right' and job done - you're WAY over-complicating it :)

Dave
 
DG Phototraining said:
So ??? Happens to me (and everyone else) all the time, no-one I know bothers about it, get the Bride 'right' and job done - you're WAY over-complicating it :)

Dave
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Just checking if there is a way of correcting a photo like that in PP, or a trick that can be used that I didn't know about :-). I guess more of a problem at this time of the year
 
gilbouk said:
Just checking if there is a way of correcting a photo like that in PP, or a trick that can be used that I didn't know about :). I guess more of a problem at this time of the year
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WB variations occur all year round. Unless you test the outside WB and can then add flash gelled to match, its always going to be different

The venue I shoot at most of the time has huge windows one side and tungsten lighting the other for Ceremonies, as the lights flicker too its just crazy to try to match it across the frame - and here's the BIG THING - clients NEVER notice nor care

Dave
 
Option 1 is to gel your lights so it matches up. If you have lots of big overlapping windows this may be the way to go.

Option 2 is yellow adjustment layer. You can make pretty clever selections by taking advantage of brightness or colour difference and tweak using mask as required. I would only do this for fairly important images
 
LongLensPhotography said:
Option 1 is to gel your lights so it matches up. If you have lots of big overlapping windows this may be the way to go.
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I find flash negates the effect somewhat - however I've been practising not using flash during the Ceremony.

LongLensPhotography said:
Option 2 is yellow adjustment layer. You can make pretty clever selections by taking advantage of brightness or colour difference and tweak using mask as required. I would only do this for fairly important images
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I will give this a go and see how I get on. I can see that you would only want to do this at most a couple with the time it would take to accurately select the area to be altered
 
Well theres really three options, ignore the colour of the windows or fix PP (which might be a pain) gel the flash to match the window then WB the whole thing, three is what the movie industry used to do and thats gel the window (a tad more expensive and filldly)
Personally I don't find it a massive problem, if it's cold and grey outside, that's how it is, the couple know what the weather is like.
 
Could you not take a shot before the people are in the image, you then have a blank canvas to use to add to the one with them in, also if you need to remove someone you have a perfect "patch"
 
TonyT said:
Could you not take a shot before the people are in the image, you then have a blank canvas to use to add to the one with them in, also if you need to remove someone you have a perfect "patch"
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I take it you don't shoot Weddings :D

And errr - while that's possible, its impractical

Dave
 
LongLensPhotography said:
Don't count on it every time. There are bridezillas out there
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Never had one in my (nearly) 11 years full-time, and even though a couple have been a bit awkward, no-one has ever commented on what is basically a colour difference to expected (WB or not); that said, its in my Contract anyway that colour balance is up to me with a statement saying it sometimes can't be matched to their memories



gilbouk said:
I find flash negates the effect somewhat - however I've been practising not using flash during the Ceremony.
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I'm amazed that anyone allows you to use flash at a Ceremony these days, its certainly rare in my experience and defo something you should avoid

Dave
 
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