Audi/VW injector recall?

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I know there's bound to be some of you in here that's had to get this done or at least know about the recall process, so come to me with your knowledge lol. Basically with some older models like the B7(2005-2008) A4 tdi and my current B6(2005-2011) VW Passat tdi have had a recall to get the injectors replaced. I'm on a car hunt and with my budget it's those older effected models that keeps popping up.

What I'm concerned about is that if the recall job on the cars I'm looking at hasn't been done is it a job that VW/Audi still have to do for free considering a past recall? I'm unsure of how it all works because my current Passat already had it done when I bought it.

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What engine. 2.0tdi or 3.0tdi. If it's the later they've got timing gear issues, post 07 a revised design was fitted.

Vw Audi forums are the best place to head iirc around 07 injectors were iffy but I doubt many cars would slip thru the net
 
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What engine. 2.0tdi or 3.0tdi. If it's the later they've got timing gear issues, post 07 a revised design was fitted.

Vw Audi forums are the best place to head iirc around 07 injectors were iffy but I doubt many cars would slip thru the net
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2.0tdi. Is that the issue with the chain driven oil pump or is that something else that's wrong lol. I have about 8k to spend but trying to get the least millage as possible.

I've been putting into the searches the details below and it's the 2004-2007 models that have been coming up. The problem with going for the older 1.9tdi PD is that most of the models that came with that bulletproof engine are too high millage for my liking.
  • Estate
  • Diesel
  • <70k miles
  • Max price 8k
  • Manual
I am on the Vw Audi forum but the B7 A4 section isn't the most popular lol.
 
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2.0tdi. Is that the issue with the chain driven oil pump or is that something else that's wrong lol. I have about 8k to spend but trying to get the least millage as possible.

I've been putting into the searches the details below and it's the 2004-2007 models that have been coming up. The problem with going for the older 1.9tdi PD is that most of the models that came with that bulletproof engine are too high millage for my liking.
  • Estate
  • Diesel
  • <70k miles
  • Max price 8k
  • Manual
I am on the Vw Audi forum but the B7 A4 section isn't the most popular lol.
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That's the issue with the 2.0tdi. The 1.9 is the better lump. It soldiered on in skoda models for a lot longer. I don't like moon miles cars but a 80k/90k miles 1.9 will be totally fine.

All have dual mass fly wheels if you're getting a manual, just something to consider as these can go wrong too
 
ST4 said:
That's the issue with the 2.0tdi. The 1.9 is the better lump. It soldiered on in skoda models for a lot longer. I don't like moon miles cars but a 80k/90k miles 1.9 will be totally fine.

All have dual mass fly wheels if you're getting a manual, just something to consider as these can go wrong too
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Yeh the clutch in my old 1.9tdi Passat finally gave up the ghost and cost a fair amount to fix because I had to do the flywheel at the same time. I wasn't surprised though because I did over 140k miles in it with a Remap, the extra power wouldn't have helped.
 
You want the best condition not the least mileage. It's a fools errand to chase the low mileage diesels unless you can verify the mileage as absolutely genuine. A car that has been used regularly for easy motorway and dual carriageway driving will be far less worn than some 'low' mileage car that has been hammered around town all the time or stood for ages.

I'd go for a high mileage newer one that has just had all the expensive things done on it already where you can check that the mileage recorded hasn't been tampered with in any way.
 
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im looking at a new DMF in my 2.0 PD140, think i'll investigate whether a SMF can be fitted. seems like there are a lot of kits out there.
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What millage is on yours now? It's the same 2.0 PD 140 in my current car and I've done 120k miles in it so far without a new clutch and it's remapped. I'm pretty sure it's been done quite often going from DMF to SMF.

when I changed the DMF in my old 1.9 pd I went for the upgraded Sachs one, but I don't know how well it's lasted because that cars long gone now. Sold it three years ago.
 
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You want the best condition not the least mileage. It's a fools errand to chase the low mileage diesels unless you can verify the mileage as absolutely genuine. A car that has been used regularly for easy motorway and dual carriageway driving will be far less worn than some 'low' mileage car that has been hammered around town all the time or stood for ages.

I'd go for a high mileage newer one that has just had all the expensive things done on it already where you can check that the mileage recorded hasn't been tampered with in any way.
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That is a good point. Within my budget I can get a newer one with higher miles and I know that some of the problems from the earlier models have been rectified. It's not something I'm rushing into so I'll just have a look about. I want to get a full year on my current Passat first at the end of august before I sell it. It doesn't need anything doing for the MOT but it looks better for selling.
 
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What millage is on yours now? It's the same 2.0 PD 140 in my current car and I've done 120k miles in it so far without a new clutch and it's remapped. I'm pretty sure it's been done quite often going from DMF to SMF.

when I changed the DMF in my old 1.9 pd I went for the upgraded Sachs one, but I don't know how well it's lasted because that cars long gone now. Sold it three years ago.
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52k, but then it seems part of the DMF lottery. im assuming its the DMF anyway, needs looking at properly.

there seems to be some contradicting opinions on DMF to SMF convert on the PD140, need to give darkside dev a call. they seem to have the recommended kit and diesel knowledge.
 
Is higher mileage that bad if it is 95% M-way? I'd buy 100k one over 50k one driven mainly within London for example. City driving kills cars fast, and maybe B-road warriors aren't so good either.
 
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Is higher mileage that bad if it is 95% M-way? I'd buy 100k one over 50k one driven mainly within London for example. City driving kills cars fast, and maybe B-road warriors aren't so good either.
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It's proving it that it's M-way miles though that's the trouble. Fair enough if the seller is smartly dressed and their previous sat nav destinations are long distances then it would be easy(y)
 
It's definitely worth taking your time to find the best car. The volvo diesels seem to be very long lived. I'm sure there was a bloke in the paper saying he'd bought one with some amazing mileage, fixed the gearbox on it then added another gazillion miles without a single breakdown and only consumables.
 
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That is a good point. Within my budget I can get a newer one with higher miles and I know that some of the problems from the earlier models have been rectified. It's not something I'm rushing into so I'll just have a look about. I want to get a full year on my current Passat first at the end of august before I sell it. It doesn't need anything doing for the MOT but it looks better for selling.
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Your better with German cars that are newer updated versions - never buy into the 1st iteration of any car / drivetrain as development in the model cycle improves the reliability of parts
 
Might also be worth considering a Euro 1V spec car rather than Euro V as it won't have the DPF problems to worry about.
 
thing is with DPF is that if you dont do a lot of miles it doesnt get hot enough to burn off the soot and will eventually cause problems. in which case diesel probably isnt for you anyway.

(of course like anything it can fail for other reasons)

(you could always do a DPF "delete", as in the same dimension external piping, as the new DPF checks coming in are purely visual from what i understand)
 
neil_g said:
thing is with DPF is that if you dont do a lot of miles it doesnt get hot enough to burn off the soot and will eventually cause problems. in which case diesel probably isnt for you anyway.

(of course like anything it can fail for other reasons)

(you could always do a DPF "delete", as in the same dimension external piping, as the new DPF checks coming in are purely visual from what i understand)
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I've heard of those checks coming in too. I've always removed my DPF's and made stainless replacements. From now on with these checks coming into play if I have any problems with the DPF I'll just chop it open and weld it up again lol.
 
neil_g said:
thing is with DPF is that if you dont do a lot of miles it doesnt get hot enough to burn off the soot and will eventually cause problems. in which case diesel probably isnt for you anyway.

(of course like anything it can fail for other reasons)

(you could always do a DPF "delete", as in the same dimension external piping, as the new DPF checks coming in are purely visual from what i understand)
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The problem with mine was I could drive 170 miles home from our other office at an average of 60 and it would still try to regenerate on the 4 mile drive to work the next day, even after it was fully replaced along with the EGR valve. :mad: That was the VAG common rail 1.6 tdi which I specifically bought in preference to the old 1.9 and then wondered why the taxi drivers were buying 1.9s from Ireland. :banghead:
 
DPF is not a bad thing, but there are bad implementations, i.e. all the early incarnations. I would not want '07 DPF model more specifically. 1.9TDI is great but it could have turbo issues if it has not been maintained properly (i.e. instant power off from high revs, wrong oil, cheap diesel). I really don't like the idea of 1.6 in anything bigger than polo/golf - it works too hard and may be a bit tired after 100k.
 
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