Are You Beach Body Ready?

the only thing that bothers me about the advert pic is has the camel toe been photoshopped out ,thought they were back in fashion this year :arghh::arghh::arghh:
 
I don't have a problem with these adverts and neither does my wife, she is a healthy size 10/12 and stays trim with by eating great and regular exercise not skipping meals and smoking like many woman would insist is the only way to stay slim.

Generally I think people that complain about these adverts are the PC brigade that want adverts to reflect there are a lot of people out there who are quite happy to be fat and lazy :-)
 
I dislike it. It's the slow drip, drip, drip effect of what is seen as a "perfect" body. Young girls are subject to this from a very early age, and has proven to be harmful. A lot of the younger women I work with have fine bodies, are the right weight for the height, but are quite obsessed with what they eat. When I was younger, there was very little of this.
In fact, up until being 21, I was a size 8, and thought I was too skinny! Now, it's seen as "ideal", or even if you see some magazines, as "curvy"!!
I'm a size 12 - 14, the right weight for my height, but I'm not toned. But I'm certainly not overweight. I do have to tell myself that I look fine, and I look fine for someone who is 40. But I still am body conscious sometimes.
I see a photo of me sometimes in a bikini, and I think I look flabby. I have to be reminded by my husband that I look beautiful. (Awww).

This is not about seeing a woman scantly clad, as everyone likes to see someone who they judge as attractive. It's about what it represents.

And you can also guarantee the model isn't that thin, and has been photoshopped within an inch of it's life.
 
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@BintyMcFrazzles I don't see this as the drip drip drip thing you say. I see a young girl who looks to be in great shape, not to thin at all. I think young people should be inclined to be slim and athletic and eat well as it will send them on to later life with good habits and good ideas how to look after there bodies.

when we grow up we get fat and unfit we shouldn't be saying to people its ok to start out that way.

Being young and slim and fit is how couples choose the people they want to be with and how breeding is selected. You only have to look at slim athletic parents to see how the children end up.

Then look at fat unhealthy parents.....
 
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There are 2 sides to this.

Super skinny vs normal

Super skinny vs fat is beautiful.

I have issues with the size 18+ models being used as it is not a healthy lifestyle...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/hea...e-considered-role-models-for-young-women.html

Is a protein shake company showing what you "could" be like by using their produce not the same as Nike/Reebok etc. using Premiership Footballers in their adverts? They both imply by using their products you can be like this. It doesn't matter how many protein shakes or how many pairs of Nike Trainers I buy, I won't be beach ready and I will still be crap at football. Do I care? not really.

There is a movement to less super skinny advertising, i was distracted last week at Waterloo station by a lot of bouncing around in bikinis in the New Look advert on the big video screens. This I completely agree with, models should be size 8 to 12.

Super skinny vs normal - Is the person in an advert ever going to be normal? No, never. TV and advertising is never based on reality. They are always attractive sexy young people. Look at the denture care adverts. how many of those in the adverts use denture care??? How many of the people used to advertise http://www.fiftyplus.co.uk/ clothing are over 50 or if they are, are they the typical over 50s person? No.

There is a movement to less super skinny advertising, i was distracted last week at Waterloo station by a lot of bouncing around in bikinis in the New Look advert on the big video screens. This I completely agree with, models should be size 8 to 12, these are healthy sizes.
 
Mr Bump said:
@BintyMcFrazzles

Being young and slim and fit is how couples choose the people they want to be with and how breeding is selected. You only have to look at slim athletic parents to see how the children end up.
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You do talk some bollarks sometimes......funny though :ROFLMAO:
 
I asked my wife about this one because although I can see why people don't like the advert, I was amazed at how much anger it had caused in such a short time (50k signatures on Change.org and an actual protest march). She told me that the company had responded pretty badly to the original complainant on social media and it kind of escalated from there. The words "feminazis" and "ugly feminists" are getting used pretty freely on their FB page.

Really, it does start to look more and more like an elaborate piece of trolling.

On another note, I'm really surprised that their "fat melter" tablets are still legal.
 
viv1969 said:
You do talk some bollarks sometimes......funny though :ROFLMAO:
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But it's true look around you in the streets and look at parents and then their kids. Fat and unhealthy parents are less inclined to take part in exercise with their own children and more inclined to offer them poor food choices.
 
Mr Bump said:
I think young people should be inclined to be slim and athletic and eat well
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Eating well is about having a healthy attitude to food and eating a balanced diet. It is not about cramming your face with magic beans and expecting a miracle.
 
I think in general exercise is much more important than diet. Of course they're both important but I think a good exercise regime can make up for a multitude of 'sins' in terms of diet.

I'd also personally rather eat what I like and have fun exercising than do less exercise and constantly be watching what I eat. Other people might feel differently of course.

There's so many misconceptions when it comes to diet too.
People try to avoid fat; fat isn't bad per se... Too much fat is bad for you, sure, but eating fat doesn't make you fat. Eating more calories than you use causes a net gain I'm body mass and if you're not exercising then that is how you get fat (rather than building muscle if you are exercising).
All these 'low fat' ready meals and so on that seem popular too. Low fat generally means high sugar and low sugar generally means high fat (or something else equally bad for you). Of course there are some exceptions. People using artificial sweeteners that are (as far as I'm aware) appetite stimulants. Makes sense having them in 'diet' food and drink? I'm not convinced!

I suppose telling people to eat healthily and exercise healthily isn't enough in modern society though because I think the situation has got to the point that a sizeable proportion of people have no idea what that means anymore!

Feel free to disagree with anything I've said, just my two cents! :)
 
I was watching a very interesting documentary film a while ago about America and how it is losing the battle and the whole eating more than you burn was raised and the phrase "net gain". However medical experts disagreed strongly with the method of eat what you want and exercise it off.

What they actually found was if you eat to much of a certain food in a tight window such as high sugar foods the body has no option but to use insulin to turn it into fat almost instantly. Once the fat is stored it is then almost impossible to "net loss" burn it off as it is now in a much less process able form. The problem we have now and why people are fat and getting fatter is we are making poor food choices plain and simple and on top of that not enough exercise.
 
I don't think they're disagreeing as such. I'm saying this as a medic myself.
As a public health problem then unhealthy eating is undoubtedly the bigger problem. It's also undoubtedly much harder to get someone to do something like go to the gym than it is to get them to not do something (like not eat).
Burning 50 calories in the gym is much better than not eating 50 calories of food (for many reasons). Muscle is very metabolically active and a few extra pounds of muscle and the effect that can have on an individuals basal metabolic rate are sometimes underestimated in my eyes.
I think the reason that eating is being targeted more than exercise is that fat individuals will already have a much higher BMR and will be burning more calories than an individual who is lighter.
It's also much easier to dramatically shift the daily calorie balance through food than it is by exercise. It would be very easy to eat an extra 1000 calories a day, much easier than it is to burn off 1000 calories extra through exercise. People who are very overweight are often eating several times what someone of their size should be (as otherwise they'd be losing weight due to a faster metabolism).
I believe exercise is probably better for maintaining a healthy weight if you're already at that weight but the bigger issue if you're very overweight already is reducing the calorie intake. It's all about trying to balance calories in with calories out (if simply from a thermodynamics point of view). Trying to have a net negative calories balance is very difficult if you're taking huge amounts of unnecessary calories in.

At the end of the day, I don't think articles like this are especially helpful as they make huge generalisations about things that are quite individual and lead to people developing wrong conclusions ie. 'I don't need to exercise'. Interventions should be individually targeted to people's needs. If an individual is eating sensibly but is overweight an exercise programme is more likely to help in my eyes as dieting may work in the short term but so often people returning to what they were doing before and the same weight as they were. Of course if someone is eating 5000 calories a day instead of say 2000 then sure, cutting the calories is a hell of a lot easier than getting someone who is very overweight to do 3000 calories of exercise a day!

Sorry, guess I'm rambling a bit but it's just one of my bugbears! ;)
 
Mr Bump said:
Do you see many young men with fat birds? Apart from the chubby chasers?
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Well, I'm pretty fit and slim and one of my long term GF's was morbidly obese but I didn't fall in love with her rolls of fat I fell in love with the person. So, it can happen as not everyone is entirely superficial and looking only for a thin girl with big boobies.
 
Yes Tom you are correct in all that and that is the challenge we have today is actually getting people to make healthy choices on their own, this seems to be the issue. When me and my missus go out for something to eat for instance if we wanted a pizza we wouldn't go to Pizza hut and have the massive fat stodge that they pass for pizza for £9. We would choose to go to say pizza express and have something nice and thin and light and it will cost more.

unfortunately in this day and age we are getting more like our American cousins where bigger and more is king.

Also supermarkets pushing massive buy one get one free deals on awful cheap products like sacks of doritos.

and going back to the original post what happens if we bin all the slim models and start pushing most advertising with say size 12 models, what then?

Will the 16-20 dress size gang feel closer to reality and less fat?
 
TPFoster said:
I think in general exercise is much more important than diet. Of course they're both important but I think a good exercise regime can make up for a multitude of 'sins' in terms of diet.
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I think that booze is a big part of it too. Lots of people with weight problems don't seem to realise that downing pints or bottles of wine is fattening.

I eat whatever I want, fish and chips, pies, pizza, whatever. The key for me is stopping when I'm full and not using food for comfort.
 
BintyMcFrazzles said:
A lot of the younger women I work with have fine bodies, are the right weight for the height, but are quite obsessed with what they eat. When I was younger, there was very little of this.
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I've worked in places where young women have that attitude, but they were generally quite lazy and preferred to dream about looking like the women in adverts etc, rather than go out and burn off the calories contained in the cake they somehow deserved for being good all day.
 
Mr Bump said:
Generally I think people that complain about these adverts are the PC brigade that want adverts to reflect there are a lot of people out there who are quite happy to be fat and lazy :)
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....Nail on head! A high percentage of fat people are lazy. When I say 'fat' I mean grossly overweight and there are far too many of them.
 
BintyMcFrazzles said:
And you can also guarantee the model isn't that thin, and has been photoshopped within an inch of it's life.
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I disagree with your use of the word thin, because it would imply she was under weight. I don't think she is under weight at all, and no it hasn't been photoshopped other than selective colouring.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=....msedr...0...1ac..64.img..0.1.155.7Vxe51DAhDc

I see women of similar size in the gym all the time and if it was an unhealthy weight, there would be no way they could do all the cardio or weights.
 
nilagin said:
I disagree with your use of the word thin, because it would imply she was under weight. I don't think she is under weight at all, and no it hasn't been photoshopped other than selective colouring.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=....msedr...0...1ac..64.img..0.1.155.7Vxe51DAhDc

I see women of similar size in the gym all the time and if it was an unhealthy weight, there would be no way they could do all the cardio or weights.
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My only issue with the post is the link.
There's no proof there that the ad image isn't photoshopped other than the ad producers say so.
To that, and that alone, I say bulkshyte.
 
nilagin said:
I disagree with your use of the word thin, because it would imply she was under weight. I don't think she is under weight at all, and no it hasn't been photoshopped other than selective colouring.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=....msedr...0...1ac..64.img..0.1.155.7Vxe51DAhDc

I see women of similar size in the gym all the time and if it was an unhealthy weight, there would be no way they could do all the cardio or weights.
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I said she was thin, because she's....er...thin. I didn't say she was underweight.

And I maintain it's photoshopped. It's done everywhere in every single magazine or on every poster you'll ever read.

Mr Bump said:
@BintyMcFrazzles I don't see this as the drip drip drip thing you say. I see a young girl who looks to be in great shape, not to thin at all. I think young people should be inclined to be slim and athletic and eat well as it will send them on to later life with good habits and good ideas how to look after there bodies.

when we grow up we get fat and unfit we shouldn't be saying to people its ok to start out that way.

Being young and slim and fit is how couples choose the people they want to be with and how breeding is selected. You only have to look at slim athletic parents to see how the children end up.

Then look at fat unhealthy parents.....
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But young girls who are already thin, are starving themselves. The constant bombardment of criticism because you don't look perfect all of the time does affect young people (both girls and boys). As I said, there are young women I work with who look fine, but are obsessed by what they eat and obsessed if they miss one day at the gym. Some of them think they're fat, when they're not. This campaign for a "beach body" IS part of the problem.
Guess what? I'm not 5 foot 10, a size 8, aged 18 with perfect skin and glossy beautiful thick hair. Doesn't mean I'm unhealthy. But that is what young people are subject to.



Anyway, why don't all you men have 6 packs? That's healthy, and if you've not got one, you're just lazy and fat............Not nice, is it?
 
BintyMcFrazzles said:
I said she was thin, because she's....er...thin. I didn't say she was underweight.



Anyway, why don't all you men have 6 packs? That's healthy, and if you've not got one, you're just lazy and fat............Not nice, is it?
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But in today's terms, thin implies being skinny or under weight. If she is indeed under weight any photoshop used has been to add weight. In all her photo's she has wide hips for a thin frame, why hasn't that been photoshopped? There is nothing in that advert to make her appear overly thin or under weight so in no way could it be blamed for women or girls wanting to be thin.
Depending on how much definition is involved in a 6 pack, it may well not be healthy. The loss of too much bodyfat can increase the chances of catching viruses etc., so it is argued that a toned stomach instead of a 6 pack is healthier.
 
JonathanRyan said:
oh dear god......
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If i stood naked in front of you and asked am I fat you would be able to tell me I need to loose weight. not much but I do have excess around my waist. you can tell if someone is too skinny or too fat.
 
BintyMcFrazzles said:
Anyway, why don't all you men have 6 packs? That's healthy, and if you've not got one, you're just lazy and fat............Not nice, is it?
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except men don't tend to pay attention to that kind of crap and neither should woman.

a six pack isn't what I associate with being healthy.
 
Too skinny or too fat for what.....?

The limits for health are pretty broad. Also, not entirely understood.
 
JonathanRyan said:
Too skinny or too fat for what.....?

The limits for health are pretty broad. Also, not entirely understood.
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excess fat and not enough meat is unhealthy. its pretty easy to see on people if they have too little or too much. Its not about being perfect what ever that is.

they should have used kelly for their ad

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POAH said:
excess fat and not enough meat is unhealthy. its pretty easy to see on people if they have too little or too much. Its not about being perfect what ever that is.
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Yeah, I stand by my earlier response.

Meanwhile, pro-ana is killing people.
 
Oh my that Kelly delicious :-)
 
There is a fine line between ostracising or shaming people who don't look like that model and then saying, hell yeah! be proud of your body even if you are morbidly obese.
I think it's a little over the top, their response but I can see why. My bug-bear is that super-body myths are perpetuated by women's magazines produced by women and bought by women. (another rant).

anyway, the advert would annoy me more if it was definitely photo-shopped to make the model's figure 'impossible'
however, promoting improved diet and exercise isn't something that offends me.
 
I have no issues with this advert. They have used a person that is attractive and looks healthy to advertise their product.
 
Mr Bump said:
Do you see many young men with fat birds? Apart from the chubby chasers?
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Young men? Depends on how good the sex is? :D

woof woof said:
Well, I'm pretty fit and slim and one of my long term GF's was morbidly obese but I didn't fall in love with her rolls of fat I fell in love with the person. So, it can happen as not everyone is entirely superficial and looking only for a thin girl with big boobies.
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Llamaman said:
But this advert doesn't do either of those things. It promotes a protein pill, and that is all.
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I'm sorry but someone would have to be of very limited intelligence to assume you could have a slim toned body without some sort of healthy diet and exercise regime. That's why these products are called supplements not replacements.
 
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