Are you able to shoot RAW AND jpg together?

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Would you even want to?

It just occured to me if you could take a picture & it took the picture in both RAW & jpg, you could use the jpg if it had come out ok, but had the RAW to hand if you needed to post process. Being a noob I don't know if this makes sense or not, but it was just something that I thought of.
 
Yes you can, at least with Canon, and presumably with other makes too. Gives you the best of both worlds at the small expense of a slightly slower fps rate, if that's important to you.
 
I ought to go and look if the fuji hs 50 can do it, heh it'll all be for nothing if it doesn't support that.
 
You can on sony too, but not sure why you'd want to? Just shoot in raw, if the picture doesn't need editing just save as jpeg straight away, if it does, then edit it.
 
I suppose I'm thinking of the RAW file as the master negative if you like, so it's there if needed. Up until now I've only ever used jpg for any application, I doubt (but don't know for sure) if the usual places would let you upload RAW like social media etc, so I'd need to convert every picture to jpg anyway. (not sure if that's a big job or not, it is an extra step though. Whereas if I just use the jpgs like usual and I'm only processing any problem ones that I've had in the past like seriously overexposed, I'll only need to convert any that need fixing, versus every single picture taken if I go RAW only.
 
techguyone said:
THATS fantastic, wasn't aware you could do that outside of an image processing program - thank you.
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also facebook/flickr etc will auto convert raw files to jpeg but if you are going to edit them first(pp) then you should do the conversion yourself as sometimes they get it wrong and the conversions are not very good hth mike
 
Hrmm that software doesn't seem to exist now, i'll keep looking. (right click converter for Windows)
 
presuming that you have a canon (sort of a guess) then you can batch convert using the software supplied with your camera.
or even irfanview will do it I think (not 100% sure).

One thing I use to do was RAW + JPEG with a B&W treatment, then you get to see what it looks like in mono on the back of your camera but the colour is there if you prefer to use it.
WIth more experimentation though it's not required, the B&W comes out nicely but it's only a setting in the RAW conversion to switch between the two.

The best option for RAW + JPG I think is if you are at an event and the small JPGs are ported off somewhere (wirelessly perhaps) for instant selection and viewing.
Personally I shoot one or the other nowadays.
 
It'll be a fuji HS50 (in about a week) :)
 
I use to shoot RAW+jpeg on my 30d purely because I had it setup such that 90% of the time the jpeg was fine for my purposes but I had the RAW if I wanted to tweak an image further of perform dome recovery. I only stopped when I got my 5D mkii as the file size was killing my memory cards. It saved loads of time after a holiday or trip as I now have to use my ancient PC to go the jpeg conversions which can take hours and hours for a few hundred shots.
 
techguyone said:
It'll be a fuji HS50 (in about a week) :)
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Google Fuji hs50 user manual and look at page 81 of the manual you'll find. The HS50 can save both formats simultaneously.
 
On some Canon models you can save as different formats to different cards with different file sizes (if you wish) simultaneously, 5D3 for instance. Murders the write speed though on the 5D. I think other models (e.g. 1 series ) have dual CF slots so doesnt slow he camera down as much as the 5D's CF/SD setup.
 
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On Pentax you can record both file types. RAW for those special images, however, JPEGS are adequate 99% of the time.
 
RAW/NEF + JPG also available on Nikon - Check model though.

D7000 + D7100 has it.
 
Sphinx said:
RAW/NEF + JPG also available on Nikon - Check model though.

D7000 + D7100 has it.
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D3100 has it, so would comfortably assume all models after and upwards of this have it also, so pretty much ANY Nikon SLR...
 
It is fairly safe to say that a camera that has a raw option would also have a raw + jpeg. I have never owned a camera that didn't from compacts to SLR (in fact some cameras didn't have just raw and insisted on raw + jpeg even though I don't want a jpeg at all)
 
When you save a file in camera as a jpeg the camera processes it according to the settings in the camera ( e.g sharpening contrast, vivid colours etc.) I am not sure simply uploading the raw file and converting to jpeg will give you what you are looking for.
 
ARTPhotography said:
You can on sony too, but not sure why you'd want to? Just shoot in raw, if the picture doesn't need editing just save as jpeg straight away, if it does, then edit it.
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All RAW images will need processing/editing and just saving to JPEG won't give a satisfactory result.
 
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MatBin said:
On some Canon models you can save as different formats to different cards with different file sizes (if you wish) simultaneously, 5D3 for instance. Murders the write speed though on the 5D. I think other models (e.g. 1 series ) have dual CF slots so doesnt slow he camera down as much as the 5D's CF/SD setup.
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Yes the 1DX does.
 
To me there is NO reason to shoot both that I can think of.
If you wish to use a jpg out of camera you might as well shoot in Auto mode, you can set the camera up for a style but having no control of the end image.
This is like using a Polaroid and not developing your own images.
In any RAW you have an embedder jpg any how the one you see on the camera screen, this will be the same as saving a jpg as well as a raw file.
The raw file is your digital negative so to speak, the your computer is your darkroom where you make the image.
You can view all raw files as is and can just take it as is if you do not want control of your end image.
It all up to what you want, a instant photo all shoot on auto or one you want under your control.
 
My D3 has dual CF cards onboard and can save jpg's to one card and raw to the other, this system helps to keep the speed of the camera up!
 
Martpix said:
My D3 has dual CF cards onboard and can save jpg's to one card and raw to the other, this system helps to keep the speed of the camera up!
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How can writing two files speed it up? must be faster to write just raw file as no processing and less data to write.
 
Chaz Photos said:
To me there is NO reason to shoot both that I can think of.
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I do it all the time. When i HAVE to get the photos from underwater up within 5 mins of getting out of the water for potential buyers to see (any longer than that they've washed up and gone home) then JPG is the only real sensible option. But RAW in addition means i have scope later to edit/fix and prepare photos i want personally for stock use as well so best of both worlds - i get quick photos ready for potential customers while at the same time having the highest quality available for further editing if required when there are no time constraints.
 
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I often shoot RAW & JPG. I can upload a small JPG which has been tweaked in camera by refinement of the picture styles for a web gallery, then sales resulting from that can be processed in greater depth from the associated RAW.
 
andrewc said:
I often shoot RAW & JPG. I can upload a small JPG which has been tweaked in camera by refinement of the picture styles for a web gallery, then sales resulting from that can be processed in greater depth from the associated RAW.
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You can still do that from the RAW file, a simple task for any software if you have photoshop or lightroom its all done for you at a press of a button. And you gain the extra space and faster shooting.
 
Proud2btaff said:
I shoot both RAW & Jpeg all the time, always handy to have the original if your Jpeg doesn't come out so great and I also shoot in Manual modes ie Program or Shutter and not Auto modes. If I like the Jpeg then I dispose of the RAW.
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This is like keeping a 5x4 print and disposing of the negs :(
 
MatBin said:
On some Canon models you can save as different formats to different cards with different file sizes (if you wish) simultaneously, 5D3 for instance. Murders the write speed though on the 5D. I think other models (e.g. 1 series ) have dual CF slots so doesnt slow he camera down as much as the 5D's CF/SD setup.
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Interesting. With decent speed cards I don't find an issue with my 5d mk3. I shoot raw to cf and small jpeg to the sd card. Small jpeg is still a decent resolution, certainly good enough for reducing for web images and you can use the inbuilt processing.

I've never shot more than 5-6 images in high shutt speed at a time and it's coped fine with that.
 
Chaz Photos said:
To me there is NO reason to shoot both that I can think of.
If you wish to use a jpg out of camera you might as well shoot in Auto mode, you can set the camera up for a style but having no control of the end image.
This is like using a Polaroid and not developing your own images.
In any RAW you have an embedder jpg any how the one you see on the camera screen, this will be the same as saving a jpg as well as a raw file.
The raw file is your digital negative so to speak, the your computer is your darkroom where you make the image.
You can view all raw files as is and can just take it as is if you do not want control of your end image.
It all up to what you want, a instant photo all shoot on auto or one you want under your control.
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Sorry but your wrong. There's plenty of times you'd want to use either jpeg or just both. Some people can take images that are correct in camera without the need for additional processing. This is generally how most sport and editorial images are made. You just don't have the time to individually process hundreds of raw images. Other togs will have posted their images and they will be used.

Nothing to do with auto mode, it's just another feature of the camera that suits different ways of shooting.
 
Chaz Photos said:
This is like keeping a 5x4 print and disposing of the negs :(
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Now that I agree with. Raw images allow you t process things differently. It may be that you'll revisit the image and process it differently.
 
If I'm out purposely to take photos then I shoot RAW and small jpeg because the jpegs are quicker to lad on my pc and I can see them in windows explorer. Should I want to then use that photo I just edit the RAW. Also I can look at them on the tele when I get back with a cuppa.

When I go out with the family to somewhere good for photos eg the zoo, then I shoot RAW and large jpeg. That way I can put the photos in the family folder but have RAWs to edit for photography stuff.

And on the Canon 60D you can select your RAW size and your JPEG size. :banana:
 
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Chaz Photos said:
How can writing two files speed it up? must be faster to write just raw file as no processing and less data to write.
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Writing raw and jpeg files to two cards helps to keep the speed up (the same), not faster! As writing raw and jpeg to one card slows it down a tad.
 
Martpix said:
Writing raw and jpeg files to two cards helps to keep the speed up (the same), not faster! As writing raw and jpeg to one card slows it down a tad.
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But your forgetting the time it take to process the raw to jpg this WILL add time over just saving a RAW file.
 
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