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This is something that absolutely fascinates me.

I say no.
And watching the video below just makes me believe even more that we are not the only life in the universe.

The video bangs on a bit at the beginning, but his sentences about how many stars are in the universe near the end really makes you think:

http://www.wimp.com/universealone/

And don't forget, the most important image ever taken (this really is incredible!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcBV-cXVWFw
 
andy_fozzy said:
And watching the video below just makes me believe even more that we are not the only life in the universe.
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The whole creation thing is a pretty gigantic topic.

For me, well I find it kind of strange how much further advanced humans are compared to the rest of the world.
 
gman said:
The whole creation thing is a pretty gigantic topic.

For me, well I find it kind of strange how much further advanced humans are compared to the rest of the world.
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Eh, it depends how you look at it. Us humans are "advanced" in some ways but look at it from the other side. We pollute this earth with all kinds of man made chemicals, we ruin the landscape by building all sorts of contraptions to house the offspring we produce. We are psychologically very complex, and unless we find something to keep ourselves happy we can become unhealthy in the mind. We don't hibernate, we can't hold our breath underwater for very long, and unlike many animals, we aren't "specialised" in any particular part of survival. We survive because we have machines, guns and bombs to do it for us.

I received some news the other day that put me on a downer, and gave me a refresher as to how bitchy humans can really be to each other. I have to go to work every day just to keep a roof over my head, something which I don't particularly enjoy but is a necessity. I have a boss to answer to, and several people in life that if we don't constantly let them know we are present, can worry and/or grow distant. Life is a constant uphill struggle, emotionally and physically, for just about everyone, in one way or another.

Yet I sat the other day watching the cat playing with a piece of string with beads on it, and he was obviously content. Sure, he isn't as intelligent as me, and he hasn't "revolutionised" the world like humans have, but I'm damn sure he's happier than most of "us" will ever be, and he has a simpler life to boot. Sure, humans may be more "advanced" than the rest of the animal kingdom but I think a lot of it is the wrong kind of advancement. We are our own worst enemy and our own stupidity and selfishness will one day be the death of us. Then there's the intense hate that so many of us have towards other people - where else in the animal kingdom do you see the kind of hate that us humans have against each other? We're practically at civil war with ourselves, and I struggle to call that an advancement...
 
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trencheel303 said:
Eh, it depends how you look at it. Us humans are "advanced" in some ways but look at it from the other side. We pollute this earth with all kinds of man made chemicals, we ruin the landscape by building all sorts of contraptions to house the offspring we produce. We are psychologically very complex, and unless we find something to keep ourselves happy we can become unhealthy in the mind. We don't hibernate, we can't hold our breath underwater for very long, and unlike many animals, we aren't "specialised" in any particular part of survival. We survive because we have machines, guns and bombs to do it for us.

I received some news the other day that put me on a downer, and gave me a refresher as to how bitchy humans can really be to each other. I have to go to work every day just to keep a roof over my head, something which I don't particularly enjoy but is a necessity. I have a boss to answer to, and several people in life that if we don't constantly let them know we are present, can worry and/or grow distant. Life is a constant uphill struggle, emotionally and physically, for just about everyone, in one way or another.

Yet I sat the other day watching the cat playing with a piece of string with beads on it, and he was obviously content. Sure, he isn't as intelligent as me, and he hasn't "revolutionised" the world like humans have, but I'm damn sure he's happier than most of "us" will ever be, and he has a simpler life to boot. Sure, humans may be more "advanced" than the rest of the animal kingdom but I think a lot of it is the wrong kind of advancement. We are our own worst enemy and our own stupidity and selfishness will one day be the death of us. Then there's the intense hate that so many of us have towards other people - where else in the animal kingdom do you see the kind of hate that us humans have against each other?
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My god is it Monday morning Trench? Im pretty happy all round most of the time, and love a chasing a bit of string round the living room, its what keeps me young. :).

Are we alone, I dunno, I have never met an alien being and until I do I wont say one way or another. Having said that considerign the size (infinite) of the Universe I would say their could be a chance.
 
Its not something I think about too often, but it has come up a few times in conversations in the past month or two.

Personally I think its pretty naive to believe we're on the only inhabited planet, that said I'm not expecting a little green man to knock on my door a week next thursday.

I believe other planets could well contain other life forms, some of which may be more advanced than ourselves, others which may not.

To put it into perspective, we're still discovering new species of animal living on this planet, either in the jungles or the oceans. To expect us to "Stumble" across another life form on other planets is somewhat unrealistic in my opinion.
 
Donki said:
My god is it Monday morning Trench? Im pretty happy all round most of the time, and love a chasing a bit of string round the living room, its what keeps me young. :).

Are we alone, I dunno, I have never met an alien being and until I do I wont say one way or another. Having said that considerign the size (infinite) of the Universe I would say their could be a chance.
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Heh heh... I'm just very emo ;)
 
I'm going to skirt the religion/design/creation debate as best I can because that's a whole can of worms and I can pretty much guarantee my opinions would cause someone, somewhere offence.

Given the absolutely, incomprehensibly large size of the universe and the near infinitesimal number of galaxies, solar systems, stars and planets it contains, I find it hard to believe that the building blocks of life have only ever come together correctly once. Especially since, as the first video pointed out, we're made of the same proportions of chemicals that make up what we know of the rest of the universe to be constructed from. That hardly makes us unique.

Now it may be that in the other cases life, should it exist, is extraordinarily simple or it may be that other life makes us look extraordinarily simple - it would be an extremely egotistical belief that says we're the very best that can ever have existed or ever exist in the future, but such is human nature, it seems, to require the belief of personal significance.
 
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trencheel303 said:
Then there's the intense hate that so many of us have towards other people - where else in the animal kingdom do you see the kind of hate that us humans have against each other? We're practically at civil war with ourselves, and I struggle to call that an advancement...
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Lions have territories which they'll fight to the death over. Are you going to beat someone to death if they accidentially stray into your garden? Although by the sounds of things you might! :lol:

Not just meat-eaters. Hippos are also very aggressive, not only with each other but the slightest glimpse of a croc and it'll be in the water and chasing! And the insect world...now that is savage! lol

Most of your comments appear to be aimed mainly towards being happy or not but then it can be the same for many animals. If a dog is locked away and not socialised then it too will go crazy.

We don't hibernate, we can't hold our breath underwater for very long, and unlike many animals, we aren't "specialised" in any particular part of survival.
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That's because we don't need to and as you say we have the ability to develop tools to do it for us - this is our speciality.

I think one of our biggest downfalls is over-populating the world. We just have to have it all don't we? I agree that it's only a matter of time before we screw the world completely and it's our own advancements with technology which is the cause of this.

But chin up, it could be worse. You could have come into life as this ;)
 
Considering how many stars there are, and how many planets there are surrounding each star, and the wide variety of life that is available on Earth I am sure that life exists elsewhere.


Will it be intelligent? Probably somewhere
Will is be an intelligence we understand? Doubtful
Will we ever make contact? Statistically unlikely to ever make contact due to the vastness of space
 
andy_fozzy said:
This is something that absolutely fascinates me.
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Me too. I recall that if we define 'intelligent species' as one that is capable of radio communication, then in our Galaxy the Milky Way which comprises of about 200 billion stars or even double that amount depending on how you define a star then there should be something like 250,000 'intelligent species' in our Galaxy alone .... Then to consdider the number (billions) of Galaxies each made up of billions of stars, then the actual number of 'intelligent species is truly mind boggling.

I believe that although we are a long way from journeying to other planets I suspect that there are civilizations out ther that are more than capable and are indeed doing so.... I just hope the come and say 'hello' in my lifetime.
 
The Drake equation, anybody?

It's more or less impossible that we're alone in the universe - statistically there are an infinite number of other inhabitable worlds - even more if we update our current definition of 'inhabitable' (ie oxygen rich and temperate) which has been shown by many life forms to not be the only way of doing things...
 
There's a video clip that goes with the following words but it's not that good so here's the wording.

It's all about how tiny our solar system is by how long you have to travel for before you reach or see particular objects.

A journey beginning at midnight on January 1st starting from our own sun. We'll be travelling at the speed of light or 186,000 miles a second.

How tiny is our own solar system in the greater scheme of things ?

Well, we pass Earth after about 8 minutes
After just 5 hours & 3.5 Billion Miles we pass Pluto
By the time we exit our Solar system it's still Jan 1st.

Lets keep going at 186,000 miles a second for longer than 1 day and see what comes next.

Our Solar Sytem fades away and becomes a spec in space.

It would take 5 whole years to reach our nearest Star 25 trillion miles away.

After 100 years travelling we start to see the Milky Way which our solar system is part of.

After 1000 years travelling the spiral of the Milky way starts to become defined

After 100,000 years we're far enough out to see the spiral of the Milky Way. Our own Solar system is one of trillions in that spiral.

After 5 Million years travelling the whole Milky Way Galaxy shrinks and becomes just one dot amongst a group of about 30 Galaxies which we call the 'local group' cluster.

After 50 Million years travelling that local group become just one dot in the sky and we pass by the Virgo cluster containing over 2,000 galaxies.

Keep going cluster after cluster

1 Billion years travelling

5 Billion years travelling

10 Billion years - and you see billions of galaxies and clusters arranged together.


There's no way we can be on our tod.
 
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dinners said:
There's a video clip that goes with the following words but it's not that good so here's the wording.

It's all about how tiny our solar system is by how long you have to travel for before you reach or see particular objects.

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There's no way we can be on our tod.
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That's very good and thanks for sharing :thumbs: However, there is a major flaw with it ...... If we could travel at 186,000 miles per second i.e. the speed of light (which we can't) then we would be able to travel to anywhere in the universe instantly.... If we could travel at a speed very close to the speed of light then time would slow down to such an extent that for every week we were travelling something like 500 years would have passed for anyone left behind on planet Earth.
 
Splog said:
That's very good and thanks for sharing :thumbs: However, there is a major flaw with it ...... If we could travel at 186,000 miles per second i.e. the speed of light (which we can't) then we would be able to travel to anywhere in the universe instantly.... If we could travel at a speed very close to the speed of light then time would slow down to such an extent that for every week we were travelling something like 500 years would have passed for anyone left behind on planet Earth.
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Very true

It's really just using time as a means to convey relative distance based on light years.

Saying our sun to the earth = 8 mins and our sun to the nearest star = 5 years really gets the point over well I thought.
 
dinners said:
Very true

It's really just using time as a means to convey relative distance based on light years.

Saying our sun to the earth = 8 mins and our sun to the nearest star = 5 years really gets the point over well I thought.
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It does indeed. :cool:
 
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trencheel303 said:
Eh, it depends how you look at it. Us humans are "advanced" in some ways but look at it from the other side. We pollute this earth with all kinds of man made chemicals, we ruin the landscape by building all sorts of contraptions to house the offspring we produce. We are psychologically very complex, and unless we find something to keep ourselves happy we can become unhealthy in the mind. We don't hibernate, we can't hold our breath underwater for very long, and unlike many animals, we aren't "specialised" in any particular part of survival. We survive because we have machines, guns and bombs to do it for us.

I received some news the other day that put me on a downer, and gave me a refresher as to how bitchy humans can really be to each other. I have to go to work every day just to keep a roof over my head, something which I don't particularly enjoy but is a necessity. I have a boss to answer to, and several people in life that if we don't constantly let them know we are present, can worry and/or grow distant. Life is a constant uphill struggle, emotionally and physically, for just about everyone, in one way or another.

Yet I sat the other day watching the cat playing with a piece of string with beads on it, and he was obviously content. Sure, he isn't as intelligent as me, and he hasn't "revolutionised" the world like humans have, but I'm damn sure he's happier than most of "us" will ever be, and he has a simpler life to boot. Sure, humans may be more "advanced" than the rest of the animal kingdom but I think a lot of it is the wrong kind of advancement. We are our own worst enemy and our own stupidity and selfishness will one day be the death of us. Then there's the intense hate that so many of us have towards other people - where else in the animal kingdom do you see the kind of hate that us humans have against each other? We're practically at civil war with ourselves, and I struggle to call that an advancement...
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:agree:

And this folks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=645-i_3ZwHU is about as long as we got left at this rate
 
TriggerHappy said:
I'm going to skirt the religion/design/creation debate as best I can because that's a whole can of worms and I can pretty much guarantee my opinions would cause someone, somewhere offence.

Given the absolutely, incomprehensibly large size of the universe and the near infinitesimal number of galaxies, solar systems, stars and planets it contains, I find it hard to believe that the building blocks of life have only ever come together correctly once. Especially since, as the first video pointed out, we're made of the same proportions of chemicals that make up what we know of the rest of the universe to be constructed from. That hardly makes us unique.

Now it may be that in the other cases life, should it exist, is extraordinarily simple or it may be that other life makes us look extraordinarily simple - it would be an extremely egotistical belief that says we're the very best that can ever have existed or ever exist in the future, but such is human nature, it seems, to require the belief of personal significance.
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Great thread and this is a similar answer as I was about to write. Pity you are going to skirt the first part (although I don't think we are allowed to discuss those subjects!):D
What always amazes me is the number of people that appear disinterested in this subject and other science related matters.
Although slightly different, although worth watching, is the last episode of BBC Horizon on i player (but only if like me, you find the science stuff interesting!)
 
Many years ago I read something that put things into perspective for me, huge numbers can be confusing

the statement simply said, "there are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on the earth"

Now if he'd said, grains of sand on Brighton beach you'd think that's a lot but grains of sand on The Earth, there's no way we can be alone
 
andy_fozzy said:
Are we alone in the universe?
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I have irrefutable proof that we are not alone
the other intergalactic members out there are / would be far more intelligent
than us right?
So intelligent that they would stay the f*** away from us right?.
Ergo no confirmed visits from "aliens" proves my point :thumbs: :D
andy_fozzy said:
And don't forget, the most important image ever taken (this really is incredible!):
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I got bored with that once Floyd stopped playing :D
 
Cobra said:
Ergo no confirmed visits from "aliens" proves my point :thumbs: :D
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I'm not so sure, there's a few questionable humans on Jeremy Kyle sometimes.
 
Splog said:
That's very good and thanks for sharing :thumbs: However, there is a major flaw with it ...... If we could travel at 186,000 miles per second i.e. the speed of light (which we can't) then we would be able to travel to anywhere in the universe instantly.... If we could travel at a speed very close to the speed of light then time would slow down to such an extent that for every week we were travelling something like 500 years would have passed for anyone left behind on planet Earth.
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Hmm how come?

If it takes light approx 8 mins to get to Earth from the sun, then assuming I could travel at the speed of light and wanted to fo to the sun (which would be a stupid idea I hasten to add) then surely it would take approx 8 mins, not instantly?

Back to the original question......... I would guess that the laws of stats / probabilty compared with the sheer number of galaxies / stars / planets in the universe would suggest there is life elsewhere............... whether it is still a primordial swamp or very advanced though, who knows?
 
trencheel303 said:
Eh, it depends how you look at it. Us humans are "advanced" in some ways but look at it from the other side. We pollute this earth with all kinds of man made chemicals, we ruin the landscape by building all sorts of contraptions to house the offspring we produce. We are psychologically very complex, and unless we find something to keep ourselves happy we can become unhealthy in the mind. We don't hibernate, we can't hold our breath underwater for very long, and unlike many animals, we aren't "specialised" in any particular part of survival. We survive because we have machines, guns and bombs to do it for us.

I received some news the other day that put me on a downer, and gave me a refresher as to how bitchy humans can really be to each other. I have to go to work every day just to keep a roof over my head, something which I don't particularly enjoy but is a necessity. I have a boss to answer to, and several people in life that if we don't constantly let them know we are present, can worry and/or grow distant. Life is a constant uphill struggle, emotionally and physically, for just about everyone, in one way or another.

Yet I sat the other day watching the cat playing with a piece of string with beads on it, and he was obviously content. Sure, he isn't as intelligent as me, and he hasn't "revolutionised" the world like humans have, but I'm damn sure he's happier than most of "us" will ever be, and he has a simpler life to boot. Sure, humans may be more "advanced" than the rest of the animal kingdom but I think a lot of it is the wrong kind of advancement. We are our own worst enemy and our own stupidity and selfishness will one day be the death of us. Then there's the intense hate that so many of us have towards other people - where else in the animal kingdom do you see the kind of hate that us humans have against each other? We're practically at civil war with ourselves, and I struggle to call that an advancement...
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Jeez man, you are feeling pretty crap aren't you??

I hear you though. I don't mind admitting that sometimes I have to work pretty damn hard just to stop myself getting myself depressed, because of a few of the things that you mention. Amongst other things.........

Take care of yourself mate.

Always look on the bright side, eh??!!
 
Splog said:
That's very good and thanks for sharing :thumbs: However, there is a major flaw with it ...... If we could travel at 186,000 miles per second i.e. the speed of light (which we can't) then we would be able to travel to anywhere in the universe instantly.... If we could travel at a speed very close to the speed of light then time would slow down to such an extent that for every week we were travelling something like 500 years would have passed for anyone left behind on planet Earth.
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Surely not anywhere instantly? Anywhere at 186kmiles per second if the known laws allow:thinking:

I'm also intrigued by the universe being around 14 billions years old yet the diameter is 93 billion light yr. I had to look it up wiki again.

Current interpretations of astronomical observations indicate that the age of the universe is 13.75 ±0.17 billion years,[4] and that the diameter of the observable universe is at least 93 billion light years or 8.80×1026
metres.[5] According to general relativity, space can expand faster than the speed of light, although we can view only a small portion of the universe due to the limitation imposed by light speed. Since we cannot observe space beyond the limitations of light (or any electromagnetic radiation), it is uncertain whether the size of the universe is finite or infinite.
 
I could easily prove beyond reasonable doubt that alien life forms exist and thrive in South Norfolk, however everytime I walk along Mere Street in Diss armed with a DSLR, the residents howl and chant and wave their 6 fingered arms in the air accusing me of trying to "Capture their souls." ..... and "that be witchcraft"

:shrug:
 
Lynton said:
Hmm how come?

If it takes light approx 8 mins to get to Earth from the sun, then assuming I could travel at the speed of light and wanted to fo to the sun (which would be a stupid idea I hasten to add) then surely it would take approx 8 mins, not instantly?
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The 8 minutes is relative to us not to the light from the sun... time doesn't exist for light.... As an object approaches the speed of light, time will slow down more and more to the point where time would stop if you actually achieved the 186,000 miles a second .... Time simply gets slower the faster you go. If your journey really involved instantly being able to travel at the speed of light then time would stop for you also .... therefore you would arrive instantly as no time will have passed.

As an aside the way I think of light speed is: imagine being able to fly around the Earth approximately 7 times every second .....
 
Splog said:
The 8 minutes is relative to us not to the light from the sun... time doesn't exist for light.... As an object approaches the speed of light, time will slow down more and more to the point where time would stop if you actually achieved the 186,000 miles a second .... Time simply gets slower the faster you go. If your journey really involved instantly being able to travel at the speed of light then time would stop for you also .... therefore you would arrive instantly as no time will have passed.

As an aside the way I think of light speed is: imagine being able to fly around the Earth approximately 7 times every second .....
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Is that not for a given frame of reference else would you not be everywhere at once?:thinking:
 
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Yes to the first part and no to the second! .... You could only get somewhere instantly by travelling to it at light speed ..... impossible but intriguing. Of course the multi-verse theory is enjoyed by some ..... not me though as it's just too weird ;)
 
I've always seen distance as being a physical aspect which is uniform to all - i.e. 100 miles is a 100 miles no matter where you are, what you are or how fast you are going.

I see time as being a measurement relative to a specific element or events?...and therefore it can change depending on the circumstances? Or something like that lol

So if time slows down as you go faster, does this mean your physical aging process slows down also? And if you go faster than the speed of light, does time go backwards like Superman did?

Or is it just a case of being a total mind **** because everything we do on earth bears reference to time as governed by the low speeds in which we travel and in reference to the earth's rotation which we derive time from?
 
gman said:
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So if time slows down as you go faster, does this mean your physical aging process slows down also? And if you go faster than the speed of light, does time go backwards like Superman did?
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Yes, as time slows then so does your ageing process ... How can you age faster than the time it takes?... You will only age with the time frame in which you exist. If you travel fast enough then you will be travelling through time .. the fourth dimension! ...
I don't believe that time can go backwards, so no! The point is that time will always slow down and eventually stop, but even that's not right as the energy required to actually hit light speed and stop time would be so massive it doesn't exist.

Probably .....

gman said:
Or is it just a case of being a total mind **** because everything we do on earth bears reference to time as governed by the low speeds in which we travel and in reference to the earth's rotation which we derive time from?
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It's a total mind **** for sure :lol: .....
 
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Splog said:
Yes to the first part and no to the second! .... You could only get somewhere instantly by travelling to it at light speed ..... impossible but intriguing. Of course the multi-verse theory is enjoyed by some ..... not me though as it's just too weird ;)
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If you want really weired - watch this when you've a spare hour.

Horizon - What Is Reality?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00xxgbn/hd/Horizon_20102011_What_Is_Reality/

There is a strange and mysterious world that surrounds us, a world largely hidden from our senses. The quest to explain the true nature of reality is one of the great scientific detective stories.

Clues have been pieced together from deep within the atom, from the event horizon of black holes, and from the far reaches of the cosmos. It may be that that we are part of a cosmic hologram, projected from the edge of the universe. Or that we exist in an infinity of parallel worlds. Your reality may never look quite the same again. :help:
 
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dinners said:
If you want really weired - watch this when you've a spare hour.

Horizon - What Is Reality?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00xxgbn/hd/Horizon_20102011_What_Is_Reality/

There is a strange and mysterious world that surrounds us, a world largely hidden from our senses. The quest to explain the true nature of reality is one of the great scientific detective stories.

Clues have been pieced together from deep within the atom, from the event horizon of black holes, and from the far reaches of the cosmos. It may be that that we are part of a cosmic hologram, projected from the edge of the universe. Or that we exist in an infinity of parallel worlds. Your reality may never look quite the same again. :help:
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Cheers Phil :thumbs: I'll certainly watch that :cool:
 
Splog said:
Yes, as time slows then so does your ageing process ... How can you age faster than the time it takes?... You will only age with the time frame in which you exist. If you travel fast enough then you will be travelling through time .. the fourth dimension! ...
I don't believe that time can go backwards, so no! The point is that time will always slow down and eventually stop, but even that's not right as the energy required to actually hit light speed and stop time would be so massive it doesn't exist.

Probably .....




It's a total mind **** for sure :lol: .....
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The ageing process only slows down for someone outside your frame of reference...You will still age 'normally'. Those same people will appear to age quickly from your frame of reference. Its the Twins Paradox. However this also appears to question on who is actually moving at the speed of light, would it be you or them - as you are both moving away from each other at the same speed.

EDIT: just to qualify the above...I stopped Physics at 16 so don't take that as fact haha :lol:
 
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Splog said:
Yes, as time slows then so does your ageing process ... How can you age faster than the time it takes?...
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Isn't our aging process, which is measured by our definition of time, relative to the time as used as a measurement on earth? Wouldn't the actual chemical reactions in our body still occur at the same rate regardless of how fast our entire body is being propelled at because time becomes a measurement relative to our own entity's circumstances?

Or is that the beauty of time because if you are going at a speed where time, compared to as measured on earth, is say tens times faster; then you should really be using a local time measurement so your watch would really be going tens times quicker and therefore you would technically not be aging any slower? :lol: So you are only aging slower relative to using time measurement on earth?

I think I'm looking into this too much without knowing even a fraction of enough information to be able to look into this too much lol :bonk:
 
AndyB1976 said:
The ageing process only slows down for someone outside your frame of reference...You will still age 'normally'. Those same people will appear to age quickly from your frame of reference. Its the Twins Paradox. However this also appears to question on who is actually moving at the speed of light, would it be you or them - as you are both moving away from each other at the same speed.

EDIT: just to qualify the above...I stopped Physics at 16 so don't take that as fact haha :lol:
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Ah you posted as I was typing and this is what I was trying to say! lol

The last part is too much for me lol I understand what you mean and the concept, I was even thinking that maybe acceleration is key but then they are both accelerating. I guess that's the odd thing about light! lol
 
Really makes you realise how small our lives are in the grand scheme of things doesn't it.

I personally believe strongly that there is live out there, but don't think we will ever make contact with it. The stats are just too great.

For example the nearest nearest solar system to ours is a mere 10.5 light years away. Great if we can suddenly create a space craft that can achieve those speeds but based on the fastest we have managed so far it would take 4,500 years!!

So lets assume that we can make a kind of radio messege that can be beamed off at the speed of light, understood by those recieving it and then they have the technology to answer we will still have to wait 21 years.

Assuming of course that the nearest life forms are more than plankton.

I suppose though that anything is possible, can you imagine going back just a few hundred years and telling them that you would build a big tube that can fly around the world with 300 people on board and serve them a choice of chicken or beef. You probably would of been locked up or worse.

There was a documentry on sky anytime (might still be there) about travelling at the speed of light. Very interesting nut a bit of a head **** to be honest but a good watch.

Again doesn't it make you reailse how short our lives really are....
 
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