Are Britons happy with their health care?

So, you're saying that everyone you've dealt with (you haven't said in what cappacity) has received poor service from the NHS? Sorry, but I find that somewhat hard to believe.....


Okay! I am only using a few examples, but it is what I have to judge my opinion on i.e. my experience.... I have given one example already!... another is a someonewho lost a hand in an horrific accident and was admitted to hospital and was released within 4 hours and basically told to "get over it" he passed out a few few hours later and had to be re-admitted for seven days with all kinds of physical and psychological problems!....Just think about that!.... I am really not directing this at you personally Flash but as I have said I am answering the OP's question based on my experiences and that answer is THE NHS... I hate it.... and would love to see it reformed
 
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Do you have a link to this study?

Okay! I am only using a few examples, but it is what I have to judge my opinion on i.e. my experience.... I have given one example already!... another is a someonewho lost a hand in an horrific accident and was admitted to hospital and was released within 4 hours and basically told to "get over it" he passed out a few few hours later and had to be re-admitted for seven days with all kinds of physical and psychological problems!


What do you mean by "basically told to get over it"?
 
Okay! I am only using a few examples, but it is what I have to judge my opinion on i.e. my experience.... I have given one example already!... another is a someonewho lost a hand in an horrific accident and was admitted to hospital and was released within 4 hours and basically told to "get over it" he passed out a few few hours later and had to be re-admitted for seven days with all kinds of physical and psychological problems!....Just think about that!.... I am really not directing this at you personally Flash but as I have said I am answering the OP's question based on my experiences and that answer is THE NHS... I hate it.... and would love to see it reformed

someone lost a hand a was released from hospital within 4 hours ??? you are talking rubbish they would have been kept in for atleast 24hours after the op
 
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What do you mean by "basically told to get over it"?

i.e. You've lost a hand and we can't do anything more for you.. they amputated after the accident.. he lost three fingers and the palm of his hand, the rest of the skin was de-gloved.....

someone lost a hand a was released from hospital within 4 hours ??? you are talking rubbish they would have been kept in for atleast 24hours after the op


Should have said 4 hours after the operation., which was immediate..


You are offensive... :razz: I am speaking fact... You are are talking rubbish... this thread is about the NHS and this was the action of the local hospital....ABSOLTE FACT and that is why I raise it on this thread to show how wonderful (not) our NHS really is.... and to add to this, his so called councillors have spent more time talking to him about his religeous beliefs than anything else.... Complete *******s inmho and his!
 
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i.e. You've lost a hand and we can't do anything more for you.. they amputated after the accident.. he lost three fingers and the palm of his hand, the rest of the skin was de-gloved.....

And they sent someone home from hospital after that sort of trauma? I'm with Mikeward here, I find that highly unlikely....

Anyway, this study you quoted earlier.....

got a link? :naughty:
 
someone lost a hand a was released from hospital within 4 hours ??? you are talking rubbish they would have been kept in for atleast 24hours after the op

Please enlighten us to your knowledge and experience of these matters?
 
well i have to say as a long life worker in the front line of the nhs i am plesed to see that most of you are at least happy to keep it.

There are a lot of faults and waste is a big problem but you know what, even if i have money to burn i wouldnt pay for privet health care and there are a few reasons for this 1. its the same doctors, 2. they do not have emergency facilities and call 999 if things go wrong 3. they only do treatment for out patients and elective procedures.

For example you fall over and break your leg there is nowhere but the nhs for you to get treatment. you need your tonsils out then yeah your phc could come in handy.

But health care isnt all about a&e and emergencies and surgery. The nhs provides free contrception to everybody in the uk who wants it. They give your children free vachines against deadly illnesses. They give you medication for just about every probelm at reduced rate prices, they help fund the chemists where you get your perscribtions and other products, they made it possible for parents to buy calpol in petrol stations at 3am for the child who is teething, they provide help support and treatment for pregnant women, they have a 24hr helpline for medical advice and reasureance whenever you need it, they provide some nursing and care homes for the those that need them. And if that isnt enough you can walk in to any accident and emergency department and get seen by a doctor. And whe i work in A&E wee consistaanly had 98% of patients seen, treated and discharged (or admitted) within 4 hours.

Yes you might have to wait, yes some nhs staff are incomapant (show me a company that doesn't have incompant staff somewere), yes there are more managers than needed, yes teh infrstructor is old and needs replacing, yes in america they have more fancy equipment, no you dont get a privet room, yes you might get mrsa (the us has a problem with that as well).

Yes the nhs charges for RTA and industrial accidents, they also charge none uk nationals but you get the treatment the charges are sorted later and mostly through insurance companies.

As for the front line staff (well those that care) slogg there gutts out to get the job done and help the people that need it, get their anunal paycut, get abused by memebers of the public, if not assulted. All to be total daily by the public, the govenment and the press were not good enough. well tbh im sick of it. Maybe if we got some praise once in while not so many nurses whould be thinging sod it why bother they hate us anyway.


Watch sicko by micheal more see if you still think the american way is a good idea.

and splog regarding post op relaese normally 4-6 hours post op as standard, unless there is another reason to keep people in. Yes im sure your firend needed both physical and emotional help after the accident, thats what there GP is there to arrange. But your right not everything goes to plan. That said personally my family and friends have stuffered more int he hands of priviate hospitals than the nhs.

It will not be long before the nhs is gone and i pray that im long dead befor it happens.
 
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well i have to say as a long life worker in the front line of the nhs i am plesed to see that most of you are at least happy to keep it.

There are a lot of faults and waste is a big problem but you know what, even if i have money to burn i wouldnt pay for privet health care and there are a few reasons for this 1. its the same doctors, 2. they do not have emergency facilities and call 999 if things go wrong 3. they only do treatment for out patients and elective procedures.

For example you fall over and break your leg there is nowhere but the nhs for you to get treatment. you need your tonsils out then yeah your phc could come in handy.

But health care isnt all about a&e and emergencies and surgery. The nhs provides free contrception to everybody in the uk who wants it. They give your children free vachines against deadly illnesses. They give you medication for just about every probelm at reduced rate prices, they help fund the chemists where you get your perscribtions and other products, they made it possible for parents to buy calpol in petrol stations at 3am for the child who is teething, they provide help support and treatment for pregnant women, they have a 24hr helpline for medical advice and reasureance whenever you need it, they provide some nursing and care homes for the those that need them. And if that isnt enough you can walk in to any accident and emergency department and get seen by a doctor. And whe i work in A&E wee consistaanly had 98% of patients seen, treated and discharged (or admitted) within 4 hours.

Yes you might have to wait, yes some nhs staff are incomapant (show me a company that doesn't have incompant staff somewere), yes there are more managers than needed, yes teh infrstructor is old and needs replacing, yes in america they have more fancy equipment, no you dont get a privet room, yes you might get mrsa (the us has a problem with that as well).

Yes the nhs charges for RTA and industrial accidents, they also charge none uk nationals but you get the treatment the charges are sorted later and mostly through insurance companies.

As for the front line staff (well those that care) slogg there gutts out to get the job done and help the people that need it, get their anunal paycut, get abused by memebers of the public, if not assulted. All to be total daily by the public, the govenment and the press were not good enough. well tbh im sick of it. Maybe if we got some praise once in while not so many nurses whould be thinging sod it why bother they hate us anyway.


Watch sicko by micheal more see if you still think the american way is a good idea.

and splog regarding post op relaese normally 4-6 hours post op as standard, unless there is another reason to keep people in. Yes im sure your firend needed both physical and emotional help after the accident, thats what there GP is there to arrange. But your right not everything goes to plan. That said personally my family and friends have stuffered more int he hands of priviate hospitals than the nhs.

It will not be long before the nhs is gone and i pray that im long dead befor it happens.


:clap: Well said. Too often people don't think asbout or choose to forget about the non A&E or non surgical services that the NHS provides. My Father in law had Alzheimers, and was in and out a lot in the later stahes. The nurses were absolutely fantastic, not only in their care of him, but in the support they provided for my wife and her mother. The home care, the equipment provided to make his home life (and that of his carers) easier was all provided by the NHS, and again, can't fault it.
I could go on oand on about the visits we#ve had to A&E with the kids, and how we#ve always been treated respectfullt, and sympathetically (often under very difficult circumstances for the staff - late at night with an a&E full of Drunken Travellers dripping blood everywhere and fighting).

Yes we#ve had to wait sometimes but it#s not the end of the world.
I for one would like to see more of my NI and tax go directly to the frontline staff, and wholeheartedly believe that if you could remove the political interference and allow the doctors, nurses and administrators to get on with their jobs, it would only improve.

The NHS is great, it's the poloticians past and present, misdirected funding on a massive scale and beauracratic mismanagement that's effevtively crippling it.

(Wasn't going to get involved in this, but hey ho.....
 
Hmmm... a system that allows EVERYONE to get treatmeant OR to choose whether they would like to pay the additional cost of private care.

The basic 'free' treatment does have some issues - they have saved my life at least once, so I will forgive them. They delivered my child. He grew up okay so I am going to forgive them again. My brother-in-Law just had open heart surgery that saved his life - I suspect his family will forgive any issues there may be with the NHS. Sometimes **** happens....

...so many folk are arriving in the UK each week to take advantage of the social benefits of our free systems surely they cannot all be wrong? The tax burden here is okay - it is survivable and some even do quite well under it. In fact some of us do pretty well and purchase stupid amounts of photogrphic kit just as a hobby. Elsewhere, people die where they fall.

Move along folks, plenty to see elsewhere. Lets start being nice to each other and marvel in previous generations of politicians that actually did some good - and did not 'just' line their pockets.
 
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It's not perfect with too much money going to management costs instead of direct care but I wouldn't want to see it go.

You can walk (or get carried!) into an emergency department and be treated and/or diagnosed without having to show your credit card or prove you have health insurance.

You can also make an appointment to see a doctor if you want to.

We pay a tax called National Insurance for this and it is compulsary if you are working as it is taken at source from your wages. You can also take out extra private health insurance if you want to and the UK does have private hospitals.

My one criticism is the fact that dentistry has managed to distance itself from the NHS and has become expensive.

Whilst you can go to hospital and have a heart transplant or brain surgery or any number of complex operations which will not cost you a penny, even a simple dental treatment on the NHS will cost you money. I think this is wrong as I believe this too should be covered by our NI contributions.


Steve.
 
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To be honest i am happy with it.

Yes it has it's faults as does every large organisation.

Without it I doubt many of us or our family may not still be here. i would not want to have to go the private route.
 
Unfortunately our National Health Service (NHS)has far to many managers and not enough front line staff who do an excellent job. The government think that by throwing tax payers money into a bottomless pit will sort out any shortfalls, but it doesn't, you can wait months for a minor operation because the money is given to those at the top and admin costs.

One problem is that a lot of the menial work is sub contracted out, such as ward cleaning and the like and the standard isn't up to what it should be.

We used to have Matrons who were in charge of a ward with senior-staff and junior nurses under them, they cared for patients and orderlies did the cleaning, but now nurses are expected to do everything.

We do notice that politicians who need hospital treatment go private, I wonder why?

If you want fast medical attention then the private route is the only way, the NHS can take months with sudden cancellations before one gets treatment.

Realspeed
 
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this thread seems to be getting a little too heated... but to the OP I can only give you my own personal experiences of the NHS.

for me they did a great job when I was a child and my appendix almost burst, I was admitted to hospital and was under the knife within 3hrs. looking back the after care from the ward staff was great. (very undervalued medical staff - nurses and doctors alike)

I was also in a car accident a few years back and had a few cuts on my head 'glued' back together I was kept in for more then 4hrs after such minor work. wonderful care from the staff

I have nothing but prise for them as they saved my son's life when he was born 2 months premature. the SCBU nurses and doctors were awesome! he had an issue where he would "forget" to breathe from time to time and they always got him breathing again.

I also have experience of other family members in the NHS which are all good, but with the odd delay here and there which can be excused due to the strain on the system.
 
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Thanks, again, everyone, for your candid thoughts and opinions. Would I be wrong to summarize as follows?

1. NHS is generally a good idea that ensures everyone gets needed medical care.

2. NHS is either underfunded or funds are misdirected into management or elsewhere. This is not the fault of the concept of the NHS but rather a fault of its execution.

3. Most of you have responded that you want to keep the system you currently have, but would like to see waste and inefficiency reduced and funding redirected into front line health care.

4. The large majority of you have indicated that the medical staff (doctors, nurses, medical lab techs, phlebotomists, surgical technicians, etc.) are caring and effective. (The caveat, as always in any large, complex system, is that there is a small minority of health care providers who are less than desirable.)

5. Most of you have asserted that NHS has provided good health care, especially in emergency situations, to you and/or your family and close friends. A minority of posters indicated that they or their family/friends were mistreated.

6. What is still unclear to me is the "wait time" for certain medical procedures. We need to separate the time spent in the waiting room to be treated vs. the time a patient who needs a procedure may have to wait for his/her "turn" in the operating room.

Thanks, again, for all your insights. It very much helps me put our political discussion here in the U.S. into some sort of perspective.
 
The set waiting times that are ment to be achieved are
emergency gp appointment - same or next day
A&E treatment within for hours
Wait for out patients when cancer is suppected 2 weeks max
wait for out patients for elective treatments 18 weeks max

not all areas achieve these targets, but many are much less.
 
Hunter I do believe that the NHS is the biggest employer in the world second only to the Indian Railways! If you think that we are a small set of islands (admitted we have a decent population for area covered) and employ so many its not hard to see that there is going to be some poor management and some waste that shouldnt happen but does. Waiting times to see say a consultant were dreadful but have improved, you also have to remember we here know no other service. The private sector here cant be used as some kind of a gauge either because if they get someone in who is say a member of BUPA but has some really expensive to treat problems they just send them off to a NHS hospital so they are in a win win situation! I know this happened to someone I know but that was 10 years ago and am sure it could still be the same.
 
6. What is still unclear to me is the "wait time" for certain medical procedures. We need to separate the time spent in the waiting room to be treated vs. the time a patient who needs a procedure may have to wait for his/her "turn" in the operating room.
it varies according to how you present & severity e.g. if you are in Accident & Emergency with a sprained ankle or minor cut etc. & there is a serious casualty comes in after you they will be seen first as they are more at risk.
It also varies upon where you are (some hospitals are busier/quieter & some are better run than others the same as any organisation).

On the other hand 1 of my best friends is in a reasonably senior position in 1 of our largest NHS hospitals here in Glasgow & had a patient who was referred by their GP, was examined at the hospital where something more serious was suspected, X-rayed/MRI'ed & forwarded to a consultant then operated on all within a day ...
 
World Healthcare Rankings (2007)
(source: WHO)

1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 United States of America
38 Slovenia
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188 Democratic Republic of the Congo
189 Central African Republic
190 Myanmar


Preventable Deaths (Deaths per 100,000 Population 2002-2003)

(source: WHO)

UK 103
USA 110


There is a lot of criticism of the UK NHS that we are not at the top of the health care league tables world wide. I'll be controvertial and say that I for one do not want us to be top. I do want us to be in the top quartile.

The table above is probably not the best measure of this but does ilustrate the point.

The trouble with the NHS is our political system, not the NHS, yes it could always be better but the recent criticism in the US has stemmed not from the poor performance of the NHS but the Brittish disease of "dark cloud walking" and the use of the NHS as a political battle ground.
 
...hey, but I can be careless in the knowledge that someone will attempt to fix me for free (excluding prescription costs if in work).

I can eat Macdonalds burgers all day every day until the pump clogs up.
I can be careless doing DIY (and if I am really smart, I'll buy accidental damage insurance and spray blood on the carpets to get them replaced on the way to the hospital).
I could have as many babies delivered as I desire*
I can play sport aggressively and get as many bones broken as I fancy.
I can play chicken on Zebra Crossings.

*sex changes on the NHS are rare and unpredictable, this may not apply to all.
 
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can play sport aggressively and get as many bones broken as I fancy..

Bones yes, i have a few broken ones from sports, just dont injury any muscles, as the NHS is pants at fixing muscle damage
 
Bones yes, i have a few broken ones from sports, just dont injury any muscles, as the NHS is pants at fixing muscle damage

...come on. Muscle damage repairs may be iffy, but still free for us Brits and visitors. Be reckless, enjoy.

I am about to go to the States shortly and buy just about every insurance product I can. Not that I want to, I believe in the way of life there.
 
the NHS is not too bad but i am glad i had private medical care when i needed it
 
From personal experience...

It depends on the area you live in and the Trust that you are under...NHS is no longer "National", as in, you get the same treatment and service in every hospital in every city because you do not!!!

I have been waiting for a Kidney Op now for almost 4.5 years and again it has been cancelled!!

The NHS and their wonderful consultants, etc, etc should realise that they cannot muck up peoples lives as they wish for stupid excuses such as this Dr is not available or their is no Anaesthetist available! Year in and year out my condition gets worse and as such I have lost my job through ill health and just recently my house! So from my point of view the NHS sucks!

And yes whilst I was working I had Private Medical Insurance BUT it was the same team of Doctors going to do my Op and yet again it was cancelled twice due to similar reasons!

So I am still on their wondeful waiting lists....
 
Cant help wondering why our NHS is being classed as free as am sure everyone must know money thats used to pay for the NHS is coming from our taxes?
 
The NHS and their wonderful consultants, etc, etc should realise that they cannot muck up peoples lives as they wish for stupid excuses such as this Dr is not available or their is no Anaesthetist available! Year in and year out my condition gets worse and as such I have lost my job through ill health and just recently my house! So from my point of view the NHS sucks!

im sorry about your situation, however you cant really blame the situation if at the time of your op a doctor/other staff is called away to an emergancy? im not saying youre not important but if someone is going to die at that precise moment then they will prioritise.

personally i have nothing but praise for the people working in the hospitals. a couple years back my nan was in southampton ICU for the best part of a month with pnuemonia, on a ventilator, induced coma etc etc. the staff were SUPURB and thankfully my nan is now alive well and for the most part healthy. without those doctors/nurses/various other staff she would not be here today..

however...

My one criticism is the fact that dentistry has managed to distance itself from the NHS and has become expensive.

Whilst you can go to hospital and have a heart transplant or brain surgery or any number of complex operations which will not cost you a penny, even a simple dental treatment on the NHS will cost you money. I think this is wrong as I believe this too should be covered by our NI contributions.

could not agree more. the gf needs some work doing, however she has dropped off the NHS. after a few weeks trying to find an NHS dentist she eventually made an appointment at a private dentist and got a quote for £1400 (crown and 2 fillings). luckily (or so we thought) before she paid out she eventually found an NHS dentist, they confirmed the same work etc. but because the gf is a nervous patient around the dentist and will need to be sedated for the work to be done she needs to be referred, and because she is not on benefits she will need to pay... wait for it.... best part of £1400.

winnar.
 
...come on. Muscle damage repairs may be iffy, but still free for us Brits and visitors. Be reckless, enjoy.

I am about to go to the States shortly and buy just about every insurance product I can. Not that I want to, I believe in the way of life there.

Well ok the broken bones happened when i was at school, so yes they can be classed as free.

How ever the muscle damage was caused by a car acident caused by a stolen car, and as the it was caught on Police CCTV proved there was nothing i could do to avoid the impact. At the time i had been paying NI for 9years, (so hardly free) as i hadnt been out of work since leaving school. I saw a NHS physio pretty quickily within a week which was impressive, but was only a 10minute appointment, she knew striaght away that i needed a MRI scan. She recommended rest and new appointment that was 1month later, no knews on seeing a consultant or MRI, so she took a best guess and recomended some excerises, and another appointment happened 4 times.

Eventually saw a consultant after about 9months, who recomended a MRI after being of work for 10months work paid for a MRI, was done witihin a week. (the NHS waiting list was anothe 9months!) The results where pretty bad, worse then what was expected, problem now being after 10months of healing and following the excersises wrongly, as the shoulder would never be able to do them right due to the damage, and physio sessions that where too short for her to notice i was 'teating'. To open the shoulder up and perform the op that would have had,had a 95+% chance of a complete recovery, now garentees to leave a 10+% lose of strength to what i now have in it, which is actually already 15% weaker then the good side. Work did give me some intense physio after the MRI that got me fit enough to go back to work 11months after the acident. But now i take medication everyday, have regurlar physio, at expense out of my own pocket just so i can continue to do the sports i want, as although i can be classed as disabled the NHS dont rank it high enough to treat it to the level i want to lead my life style. But at some point i will need a complete shoulder rebuild as a result.

In this case if i had private medical the MRI would have been carried out within 2 weeks, and operated on within 3months, total time of work 6months, for an expected 95+% recovery. If i had of gone though with the NHS MRI, it would have been 2 years (if i had been off work another month i would have been bantrupt, still paying for that period of time off work, and that was 7years ago!)

From personal experience...

It depends on the area you live in and the Trust that you are under...NHS is no longer "National", as in, you get the same treatment and service in every hospital in every city because you do not!!!

I have been waiting for a Kidney Op now for almost 4.5 years and again it has been cancelled!!

The NHS and their wonderful consultants, etc, etc should realise that they cannot muck up peoples lives as they wish for stupid excuses such as this Dr is not available or their is no Anaesthetist available! Year in and year out my condition gets worse and as such I have lost my job through ill health and just recently my house! So from my point of view the NHS sucks!

And yes whilst I was working I had Private Medical Insurance BUT it was the same team of Doctors going to do my Op and yet again it was cancelled twice due to similar reasons!

So I am still on their wondeful waiting lists....

Simular story with my Dad, 7 years for verciuos (SP) vains, 4 years for Kidney stones treatment they eventaual found the cause for them and he passed them naturually before the op. My Mum has had simualar wating times and delays for a condition that has now become much more worse, and if left untreated could kill her, is now being sorted.

Both my Mun and Dad have worked all there life, but could not afford private heath care that would have had sorted most of those conditions within months.

Like i say in my personal experiances the NHS emergancy treatment is second to none, if your die-ing then its pretty ace, but for anything else well, quality of life doesnt come into too it.
 
On the whole I think that the NHS is good and would recommend it as a model for the US.

I used to work for the NHS. There are far too many managers and not enough clinicians, too much paperwork and a ridiculous amount of time spent in meetings.These things need fixing but the NHS is still a good system.

Personally I am well served by the NHS. I am diabetic and have severe spinal problems and arthritis.I am on some expensive drugs, probably the best available anywhere, and without some of them I would be dead. I get them all totally free.Sometimes the wait for things like physiotherapy are longer than ideal. However you get there eventually ( again free). Because of my complex problems I have also got Private Health Insurance but they dont pay out now for any chronic conditions I have. The NHS is always there for me.


Inpatient care, for elderly particularly, could be improved. The privatising of food and cleaning has had a negative effect. Dental treatment is too expensive. Again these things can be corrected.The NHS isnt perfect but it is good.
 
Would you prefer to have to pay for it?
brain surgery or any number of complex operations which will not cost you a penny,
Sorry I dont know how to use the quotes but those two lines above indicated that the NHS was free, am sure the first one was yours Flash !
 
Difficult isn't it.

On the one hand we have some people who think we should: abolish the nhs; let those who can't afford drugs/expensive treatment die; save a few £ in their pay packets.

On the other hand if some of the money went into education instead we might get people having more belief in society and humanity (and literacy).

I know that I come at these questions from the pinko commie yoghurt knitting perspective but it always seems to me that we face a choice between a society where the welfare state means something and a return to a feudal greed and thuggery.

//leaves accompanied by several bottles of Leffe and an aching feeling of empty despair.
 
I have worked either directly for or on IT project for the NHS for 18 of the last 23 years.

The biggest change I have notice on my latest return is not the amount of management staff, but the doubling up of work.

For example in Basildon where I live. In the old days there was one district health authority for the Basildon area.

Now you have the Acute Trust which covers the main hospitals and the Primary Care Trust which covers the GP's, health visitors, district/school nurses etc.

Both Trusts will probably have separate IT, finance, purchasing, etc departments. They will also probably have separate buildings and other support staff.
 
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i like the NHS.

it's a little slow at times and yes mistakes get made, but it's free and it works as best it can with the current financial input.

America has a problem with understanding how much money the medical insurance companies pump into the political process in their fine and democratic land which may have some bearing on the rabid attacks that their media is launching against our Health service.

anyone, visitor or resident can have free Accident and emergency care unlike the US.

/me goes to find the Lockerbie thread and cause some real upset to the American contingent
 
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Hi from germany. As I was able to compare the british and the german health system ( was living and working in the UK for 1,5yrs ) I can say now that I´m happy with the german health system.
If I have to see a doctor I have to pay 10 Euro once every 3 month. If I don´t see him for three month I don´t have to pay.
I he prescribes me medicine I have to pay just a small percentage of the actual price as our health insurance fund pays the rest.
One major advantage I enjoy over here is that I don´t have to wait a few month for an appointment. I remember while I was living in London I had to wait 4 month for an appointment at a dermatologist. Here I´ll have to wait for at most 1 week.
Currently I´m paying 14,9% of my wage for the health insurance fund.
 
I am happy with the NHS.

I had a major op on my back when I was 21

I always see a doc within two days if I need too....and on occasion got an appointment within 4 hours.


A question for people with private health care............if you need to see a doc about something do you straight away go to a private doc or do you see a NHS one first?

If you had a car accident and needed an ambulance do you call 999 and ask for the private ambulance or do you get a NHS one?
 
I too have nothing but praise for the NHS in the UK. They took great care of me and also great care of my grandmother recently until she unfortunately passed away. Having seen the Government health care in rural India it served to remind me just how lucky I, as a civilian, am to have access to health care system such as the NHS.
 
Cant help wondering why our NHS is being classed as free as am sure everyone must know money thats used to pay for the NHS is coming from our taxes?

I can't remember anyone ever saying it was free. You'd be silly to assume that it's free.
 
My father was a doctor before the NHS Most of his patients were on his penny panel, they paid one penny to be seen. He also ran the local cottage hospital. His " gentleman patients paid 5 Guineas to be seen. ( almost twice the industrial weekly pay at that time)
My wife was a nurse in the NHS My daughter was a nurse in the NHS, both my Son and his wife are Charge nurses in the NHS and my son in law is a Doctor in the NHS.

the total health cost NHS and Private in the uk per head of population is under half that in the USA.

One might ask where all thatmoney goes in the usa when it is obviously not spent on patients.

No one private or NHS runs out of insurance when suffering from long term illness... no one is turned away because of a precondition.
Every one gets exactly the same treatment.

The NHS is the largest organisation in the UK.. so it does have faults.. but they are constantly monitored. All Parties in the UK support the Health service and use improving it as a vote getting strategy.

It is not free... We all pay for it through national insurance. Those over sixty or are long term sick or unemployed do not have to pay for prescriptions The rest pay a proportion of each item.
The system is fair it is just and it based on equality. It is free at the time of need.
 
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