Anyone ventured into the dangerous world of weddings??

So long as the pictures are well exposed, in focus and show the bride in a good way they will be happy.

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clearly this is another case of a so called professional thinking his job is above what it actually is.

you are clearly a troll, but as for the above, that's the same for every form of photography

..well exposed
..in focus
..shows the subject in a good way

so no need for any pro's in any area of photography then since that is all there is to it in all of them

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clearly this is another case of a so called professional thinking his job is above what it actually is.

No it's a case of a professional caring about what they do and caring enought to undertake proper professional development including training courses, seminars and generally making sure I keep up with the very best I can.

So how about offering some more posing tips, after all it's not that hard is it?

How about keeping the weight on the back foot and the front foot toward the camera, how about dealing with those really awkward things called hands what do you do with those? Well apart from the obligatory shots to show off the rings there are those where you can do some of what I call "Strictly" posing. Taken from dance it's a very easy way to translate to Brides the kind of grace and elegance that make posing the hands a lot easier. The devil truly is in the detail. So why not make an effort to get it right.

Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not the finished article but if you could appriciate that I probably spend at least 4 hours a week on average training and have done for nearly three years then you might just start to get the idea that it goes a little deeper than pointing a camera in roughly the right direction.
 
To the OP, I'm not a pro by a long way but was asked to do my friends wedding last year,
My advice would be do it you'll love it, its hard work but very very rewarding, planning would be the most important thing, I had loads of help from people off here so your in the right place,
The Pressure was there but once you started the Day flowed and people will look to you and most will do as there told.
I had a great day, B&G were happy with the pictures and I supose thats all that matters at the end of the day, could I have done better, if I'm honest then yes, would I do it again, again if I'm honest then yes I would but properly totally differenty from the first, I would properly get some training first, and different lenses, but I had to make do with what I had on the day.
pressure is a funny thing and people act differenty so I suppose weddings are not everybodys cup of tea, but try it like I did, you just might surprise yourself.
Paul;)
 
POAH is clearly a long term troll if he is! Having read previous posts, I'd say as Alib says, it's just someone being passionate about his job!
 
I fail to see why POAH is being classed as a troll? He disagrees with Alison, not really worthy of the mahoosive shame of being labelled a troll is it?


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Alison is very passionate on this subject, some of the stuff she says I agree with fully,some I think is over the top. It is all subjective and down to peoples own opinions.Not worth getting hot and bothered about, t`is only the net.

No, I`m not a full time wedding tog, nor do I ever want to be.I do them on occasions and the happy couple have always been very pleased with the results and pleased with the price, those are THEE most important thing about wedding photography,in my very humble opinion.
 
I am currently planning to do my first wedding in September. I have been up front with the couple explained what equipment I have and what my expectations are and they are happy.

One of the best books I got my hands on was this.

I am planning everything well in advance ensuring I have a backup camera, loads of memory and batteries and somebody to assist. I am meeting with the couple shortly to discuss all details get full locations etc and from there will visit both church and reception at least 2 or 3 times in different weather to ascertain best options for shooting on the day.

It is an exceptionally important day and it is a matter of matching customer expectations and budgets with experience. If everyone could afford a pro it wouldnt be an issue but it is. I say give it your best, plan for the worst and cover your ass!
 
Done a second shooter gig last year and doing a few more this year. Totally agree with all thats been said about organisation, fail to prepare and prepare to fail.
Meeting a couple this Friday at their rehearsal and doing second shooter duties for the wedding. Really looking forward to it but I am under no illusions of being easy.
 
Has anyone (non-professional) been brave enough to do a wedding? How did it go? Any advice?
Here is the story (in brief…. I hope) of one of those weekend warriors which gets a lot of criticism from some quarters.

10 years ago I had my first 35mm SLR camera (Nikon F100). I loved it and got hooked on photography. Whilst still learning about exposure, and developing film at a leisure course at the local college, my enthusiasm was noticed by one of my employees at my non-related photography business. She said her daughter was getting married for the third time and wasn’t bothered about having any photographs. However, Mum thought it would be nice to have some photos…only a dozen or so, as an extra wedding present. So she asked me. I refused as I told her I wasn’t confident enough to take on the task, but she said just do it for the experience, if the pics are crap, no harm done as they weren’t going to have a tog anyway. She said I would get fed and watered, payment for costs of film and developing, and happy for my wife and I to be a guest at the reception and all drinks on their tab. In fact she more-or-less begged me to do it. In the end I did it. The results weren’t great, but weren’t too bad either. Or, at least I produced a respectable amount of pics that they were pleased with.

Some years later, I had learned a lot more about photography. I had joined a local camera club, and won, or at least got a 2nd or 3rd placement in the competitions. I had also moved to digital and had a copy of PS6. Most of my PS training came from the Discs from Digital Photo Magazine, although I paid for a day’s tuition for a 121 course with a guy in Colchester, which was very useful.

As, by now I was a proud owner of a Canon 20D. I hadn’t thought anymore about wedding toggery until one evening when I goggled something about the 20D.One result came up with an American wedding togger by the name of Gino Lucadamo and his web site http://www.storybyphoto.com/. I loved his site and style at the time and decided I must shoot some more weddings.

I bought books on wedding toggery. Including some e-books, one from Garry Edwards if I remember rightly, plus expensive videos, one from Gino himself. I quickly found out the argument that too many wannabes were becoming Wedding Photographers and not helping the industry of the professional Wedding Photographer.

So, to get my foot in the door I advertised myself in the local classified department of the local rag, where there were ads of 2nd hand wedding gowns, 2nd hand bridesmaid dresses, 2nd hand cake stands etc etc. I soon got a few jobs with some low budget weddings……..These people were not considering a wedding photographer until they saw my ad. And with the type of budget these people had wouldn’t be able to hire a pro even if they wanted one. So, I IMHO, couldn’t be accused of damaging the industry. The venues weren’t great, but this did give me some experience and at least a portfolio of wedding pics, rather than using my camera-club images as an example of my work. I was than offered to shoot as a 2nd shooter for a local pro, which was good, as the higher budget wedding pics improved my portfolio. I then joined the SWPP. No, I didn’t use the logo on my site to make me look better! But this was my first intro in to a forum. And the SWPP forum is a lot less busy than this, but boy did I learn a lot from that place! And, there are so many nice people there aswell. TP is equally as useful, but being so much bigger takes longer to get to know people.

Anyhow, I eventually became a £500 shoot and burn Weekend Warrior. No problem with that as a second business, but I started getting requests for upgrades to albums, canvasses and framed prints etc. Great you may say? But I just don’t have the time for it. My primary business turns over around £500,000 and doesn’t leave me anytime for this.

It’s a bit sad really, cos my passion is with photography, but my prime directive is to keep a roof over my kids heads.

Despite the potential success of my wedding photography, I’ve had a few knocks too. I had a bride with a midweek wedding with just 29 guests, I said I would give her 90 mins coverage with 50 edited images on a disc for £250.00.
Without going into all the details, she made a fuss and got around 200plus edited pics. At the same time I failed my LSWPP for the 2nd time (although only just ) and wasn’t happy with myself with what I provided as a 2nd shooter to one of the guys I 2nd shoot for.

Wedding photography can sometimes be easy, but most of the time is more difficult than some think. Depends on the clients perspective……..If they are spending a lot they are going to expect a lot, but make sure if they are spending a little less than the norm make sure they know what they get for their money and be honest with your capabilities
 
POAH is clearly a long term troll if he is! Having read previous posts, I'd say as Alib says, it's just someone being passionate about his job!



I'm passionate about my job (not photography) but then not everyone can do it oh wait they probably can. its not wonderous or amazing or anything else.

I disagree with what someone thinks about somthing. That does not make me a troll and I'm sure Alib is not hurt or offended that I think wedding photography is just like any other branch of photography.
 
I'm sure Alib is not hurt or offended that I think wedding photography is just like any other branch of photography.

Not at all, you are as entitled to your opinion as I am :D

I might not agree with you but I certainly won't deny anyone the right to speak their mind.

I do also like to do other types of photography too, not just weddings. I've shot interior shots for hotels, I've shot food, I shoot in a studio and I've even shot sports. I just think good wedding photography is probably the most challenging done over time and done right.

You need to be able to shoot products, people, fashion and get the emotion in there all in real time, no going back and doing it again. I think that's the challenge for me.
 
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