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Yeah I've got a 170-500 which is hardly discrete and i've never been accused/attacked etc either
Anyone know the law for taking pictures in public?
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Also I understand (from policemen I know) that there is also the truly odious type of individual who 'harvests' faces of kids from innocent pictures and uses them to 'refresh' pornographic shots using photoshop. They also apparently do this because most of that type of porn is shot over seas but the typical western nonce wants pictures with western faces
also apparently the scum who do this aren't generally nonces themselves - they do it purely for the money
(OT I have to say that i really respect these cops who deal with these ******s day in day out - I wouldnt be able to avoid nonces 'falling downstairs' or 'walking into a door')
That said it isnt a good reason to ban the 'innocent' photography of children in public as there are millions of pictures already online that these ***** can use for 'harvesting'
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Well you are in East Devon
true - but I worked in milton keynes for 5 years and oxford for 4 and I never had a problem there either
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~Sam~ said:
well, quite.
Or at the very least have a sign up requesting no photography and they can make themselves look daft to everyone passing, with CCTV cameras recording everything in the background.
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If there's a child subject of a protection order involved all the more so.
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One of the members of my golf club is a big cheese in the police regarding child sex matters, we don't normally bring work up when we play as I am sure it is quite disturbing for him to deal with at work never mind being probed during a round of golf.
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Must confess I'm often out with the 70-200 and I've never had a problem either, though I don't take 'general' child images, it would have to be some special situation or facial expression for example to make me shoot - the O/P situation would have undoubtedly had me taking at least one.
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generally they don't want to exclude these kids from taking part in school activities for obvious reasons, and generally they arent too worried about pictures of these kids winding up on line from amateur shots , what they want to avoid is them winding up in the paper , which is one reason why a teacher will have a quiet word with someone with a 'pro' camera (for which read a DSLR) but not worry about parents with camera phones.
However in my experience they will literally have a quiet word and say can you not take/publish pictures of this kid... the sort of blanket ban the OP encountered is more likely to be born of paranoia rather than any sensible reason.
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Daverkl said:
Heaven knows... a few days ago I had a security guard at More London by Tower Bridge tell me I couldn't take pictures with my "professional camera" without a written permit.
I was using a Panasonic G2. :-/
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What it basicaly boils down to it if you don't want your photo taken, don't go into the town centre and dance merily around a really big coloured pole.
It is unreasonable to expect otherwise.
Children are becoming more and more alienated. Not alowed to hug or help them or show any affection... oh and don't look at them funny either...no one must know they exist...because...
Everyone is going completely wonko with this stuff.
It is unreasonable to expect otherwise.
Children are becoming more and more alienated. Not alowed to hug or help them or show any affection... oh and don't look at them funny either...no one must know they exist...because...
Everyone is going completely wonko with this stuff.
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Its not exactly clear what the OP means by stopped. Does he mean stopped from doing it? Or stopped and had it pointed out the school were upset?
If its the latter, then anyone has an equal right to do that, presuming the school was upset, as a photographer has to take photos. That is to say, that like photography, there's nothing to say they can or can't do it, its a presumed right.
As for what Peodophile photograph, the same things you would if you were taking photos of an adult you found attractive, less is more as they say sometimes and it also applies to a peodophile.
If its the latter, then anyone has an equal right to do that, presuming the school was upset, as a photographer has to take photos. That is to say, that like photography, there's nothing to say they can or can't do it, its a presumed right.
As for what Peodophile photograph, the same things you would if you were taking photos of an adult you found attractive, less is more as they say sometimes and it also applies to a peodophile.
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You should all have a look at this post http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=413961 and then you'll find the reason people are being asked to stop photographing in a public place.
I was videoing a school presentation, for one of the parents who couldn't attend, in a public place and was asked to stop filming which I did. I was made to look the bad guy and several other people taking photos and video (I assume they were parents) had nothing said to them. I ended up being persecuted for helping a friend which left me with a very sour taste.
I get sick to death of reading posts of things like this going on. Most of us, (if not all of us on TP) are on the level, and you can tell this by the posts and I really hate being tarred with a brush to anyone else and find it disgraceful that my (human) right are being destroyed by a bunch of petty minded officials with nothing better to do.
I was videoing a school presentation, for one of the parents who couldn't attend, in a public place and was asked to stop filming which I did. I was made to look the bad guy and several other people taking photos and video (I assume they were parents) had nothing said to them. I ended up being persecuted for helping a friend which left me with a very sour taste.
I get sick to death of reading posts of things like this going on. Most of us, (if not all of us on TP) are on the level, and you can tell this by the posts and I really hate being tarred with a brush to anyone else and find it disgraceful that my (human) right are being destroyed by a bunch of petty minded officials with nothing better to do.
Would be interesting to know what the reaction had been if the OP (or his friend had said)..."Oh OK then, these won't be in the local paper then". £5 says jobsworth would've backed down at the merest sniff of publicity, they usually do.
I've used that line before and it's amazing how quickly their demeanour changes.
Also, Tiler65 is right, by the time someone tells you to stop, chances are you've got all that you need anyway.
In the future, be firm but polite. There is no law against taking photos in public, no matter what age (with the already noted exception of kids under protection order). We're not Russia yet, we can still protest, demonstrate, photograph, criticise politicians etc. without fear of prison or worse.
I've used that line before and it's amazing how quickly their demeanour changes.
Also, Tiler65 is right, by the time someone tells you to stop, chances are you've got all that you need anyway.
In the future, be firm but polite. There is no law against taking photos in public, no matter what age (with the already noted exception of kids under protection order). We're not Russia yet, we can still protest, demonstrate, photograph, criticise politicians etc. without fear of prison or worse.