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got admitted to Hospital by ambulance early this morning in the worst pain ive ever had in my life, ive ongoing stomach problems but have had excruciating pack pain for last 6-8 weeks, been getting treatment for urine, bladder and kidney infections but today i had x-rays and a CT scan and they found a massive kidney stone, got moved to another specialist hospital but no bed so sent home, got to go back and have the stones “blasted” into smaller fragments and then i’ll have to wee them out
 
I had them a few years back. Started in the evening with what I thought was a pulled back muscle, by the early hours I was in unbelievable agony. It was like having a knife stuck in my back then having it slowly twisted around. Awful pain.
 
Ive put up with the severe back/kidney pain for about 6 weeks (didnt know what it was until today) as i didn't want to bother my doctor anymore as im already undergoing extensive investigations/treatment for a bowel/bladder/stomach disorder, got blood from both ends but blood in the urine could be kidney stone related, how was your kidney problem resolved
 
Nope but had massive gallstones and had my gallbladder removed two weeks ago.
 
Stones? your posh.. I just have the smaller gravel type and I wee one out now and then... Hot bath eases the pain BTW
 
got admitted to Hospital by ambulance early this morning in the worst pain ive ever had in my life, ive ongoing stomach problems but have had excruciating pack pain for last 6-8 weeks, been getting treatment for urine, bladder and kidney infections but today i had x-rays and a CT scan and they found a massive kidney stone, got moved to another specialist hospital but no bed so sent home, got to go back and have the stones “blasted” into smaller fragments and then i’ll have to wee them out

A friend of mine has had probs with a kidney stone for a long time, back and fourth to the hospital that many times I forgot how it was delt with in the end but it certainly was not blasted to bits like they used to do. I was under the impression they had stopped using the blasting treatment for stones a long time back, either that info was wrong or it depends on which hospital you get admitted to. Has it been confirmed about the blood in the urine being related to the stone? Hope you get yourself sorted quickly Gary :thumbs:
 
got admitted to Hospital by ambulance early this morning in the worst pain ive ever had in my life, ive ongoing stomach problems but have had excruciating pack pain for last 6-8 weeks, been getting treatment for urine, bladder and kidney infections but today i had x-rays and a CT scan and they found a massive kidney stone, got moved to another specialist hospital but no bed so sent home, got to go back and have the stones “blasted” into smaller fragments and then i’ll have to wee them out
Nope but had massive gallstones and had my gallbladder removed two weeks ago.
Stones? your posh.. I just have the smaller gravel type and I wee one out now and then... Hot bath eases the pain BTW


You lot really should stop eating the pies at those grounds you know, they are obviously bad for you! ;)
 
Nope but had massive gallstones and had my gallbladder removed two weeks ago.


my wife had that done recently. Being the caring, sharing bloke I am I offered her Neurofen during an attack and asked her to let me go back to sleep
 
Kidney stones is one of the worst pains men can get. My friend is a waterworks doctor and they often, depending on the position and size of the stones on ct, fragment them so they can pass.

Hope you feel better soon Gary.
 
boyfalldown said:
my wife had that done recently. Being the caring, sharing bloke I am I offered her Neurofen during an attack and asked her to let me go back to sleep

:lol:

I tried to let my husband sleep through one of my attacks. The paramedic woke him up to tell him they were just taking me to hospital as I had to be admitted to get morphine. I have never felt pain like a massive attack. I'd share the picture on here that the surgeon took of my gallbladder and stones but it's a bit gory
 
Yv said:
You lot really should stop eating the pies at those grounds you know, they are obviously bad for you! ;)

:lol:
 
Just over a year ago, after the big op, I was admitted for suspected gall bladder problems (which turned out to be pneumonia but explains why I was in the GI ward!) and two of my ward fellows were in for kidney stones. Didn't look like fun! (Or sound like it from the moans and groans...) One of them had them ultrasound blasted and reckoned that peeing out sharp gravel was as much fun as them being in the kidneys as pebbles.
 
Nope but had massive gallstones and had my gallbladder removed two weeks ago.

I had mine done in May. Only had to stay in for one night. I was worried that I would be on a restricted diet from then on, but I can still eat (and drink!) just as before. :)
 
jon ryan said:
I had mine done in May. Only had to stay in for one night. I was worried that I would be on a restricted diet from then on, but I can still eat (and drink!) just as before. :)

It worried me too but they have assured me I can have as normal a diet, trouble is, I have an ulcer and hernia that also need fixing so am still on a restricted diet :lol:
 
It worried me too but they have assured me I can have as normal a diet, trouble is, I have an ulcer and hernia that also need fixing so am still on a restricted diet :lol:

Yik! Poor you. Still, on the up side, these are all eminently fixable conditions.
 
Yikes. Things like this scare me with only having the one kidney...

That reminds me, should probs give the doctors a pee sample at some point!
 
Im currently overdosing on Tramadol which is Opium based, consultant said it doesn't take the pain away but it puts you in a state where you don't care"
 
Women say there is no pain like childbirth, I think stones and renal problems run a close second.

I was in a lot of pain and felt ill for a few days, and went to bed, this was on a Wednesday; I didn’t get up again until the following Saturday/ Sunday morning when the wife, being worried about me took me to A and E were they admitted me right away. I was next aware of things four or five days later waking up with pipes and drains coming out of my back, shoulder and old man. I had been delirious all this time, I thought I was being held prisoner in some Far East or South American jungle prison hospital, I was seeing all these faces and people trying to do things to me I was terrified, It was the most horrific experience real or imaginary, I even thought they were manipulating the room to deceive me. When I came out of the nightmare, the people I had been seeing were the nurses, doctors and other patients, scary very very scary, even now when I think about it.
I had suffered renal failure, and only having one working kidney my whole body was poisoned, my bladder was infected and the pipe connecting the kidney to the bladder was blocked (stones), so not good. They treated me intravenously with antibiotics and the like, put me on dialysis, by-passed the pipe from the kidney to the bladder using a plastic pipe, I think its called a stent, and little by little I returned to the real world. Four weeks later I went home, I had to go back to have the stent removed and the blockage sorted, I should now hopefully be OK.
I have nothing but praise for the NHS for way I was treated and looked after.
“Please God never again.”
Rhodese.
 
Women say there is no pain like childbirth, I think stones and renal problems run a close second.

I was in a lot of pain and felt ill for a few days, and went to bed, this was on a Wednesday; I didn’t get up again until the following Saturday/ Sunday morning when the wife, being worried about me took me to A and E were they admitted me right away. I was next aware of things four or five days later waking up with pipes and drains coming out of my back, shoulder and old man. I had been delirious all this time, I thought I was being held prisoner in some Far East or South American jungle prison hospital, I was seeing all these faces and people trying to do things to me I was terrified, It was the most horrific experience real or imaginary, I even thought they were manipulating the room to deceive me. When I came out of the nightmare, the people I had been seeing were the nurses, doctors and other patients, scary very very scary, even now when I think about it.
I had suffered renal failure, and only having one working kidney my whole body was poisoned, my bladder was infected and the pipe connecting the kidney to the bladder was blocked (stones), so not good. They treated me intravenously with antibiotics and the like, put me on dialysis, by-passed the pipe from the kidney to the bladder using a plastic pipe, I think its called a stent, and little by little I returned to the real world. Four weeks later I went home, I had to go back to have the stent removed and the blockage sorted, I should now hopefully be OK.
I have nothing but praise for the NHS for way I was treated and looked after.
“Please God never again.”
Rhodese.

Holy-sh*t!! Glad you made it out okay! Now I'm really scared! Off for a check-up next week me'thinks!
 
I'm checked every 3 months, I had an ultrasound scan on Wednesday last.

Rhodese.
 
jon ryan said:
Yik! Poor you. Still, on the up side, these are all eminently fixable conditions.

I'm fine. I have tramadol as well :D
 
Yes, at first I did and some dehydration but they soon went. I just feel fuzzy round the edges now when I'm on them. I was only taken them at night though originally but after my op, I was on them for 10 days all day, which is why I've not been around here as much. But they will make you feel spaced out
 
Do you have any side effects from the Tramadol Kelly, i feel sick, light headed and somehow not with it, sort of like after having a couple of puffs of wacky baccy

I was given them many years ago for a couple of days and thats exactly how they made me feel too. Didnt really touch the pain but was too busy trying to stop the queasiness becoming actual sickness and persuade the room to stabilise to worry about it.
 
I feel your pain........I've had two bad bouts of trouble with kidney stones. The first time I managed to pass it naturally........which was a pretty awful but thankfully short experience. The second time round was much worse........a trip to A & E, painkilling suppositories (!) and then weeks of investigations including ultrasound scans, urine tests etc. The stone then got stuck on the junction leading down to my bladder and refused to budge which meant an operation to remove it. This took the form of a long tube containing a "zapper" device being passed up through my body - and I'm not going to mention where the tube was inserted! Suffice it to say that after the operation I was peeing blood for days on end!! Tests have shown that I am susceptible to more stones and I live in dread of getting another one!
 
what a truly depressing thread.. ..no seriously.. it is ... i keep getting pictures of old women in a hospital all telling each other how ill they are.....
 
I feel your pain........I've had two bad bouts of trouble with kidney stones. The first time I managed to pass it naturally........which was a pretty awful but thankfully short experience. The second time round was much worse........a trip to A & E, painkilling suppositories (!) and then weeks of investigations including ultrasound scans, urine tests etc. The stone then got stuck on the junction leading down to my bladder and refused to budge which meant an operation to remove it. This took the form of a long tube containing a "zapper" device being passed up through my body - and I'm not going to mention where the tube was inserted! Suffice it to say that after the operation I was peeing blood for days on end!! Tests have shown that I am susceptible to more stones and I live in dread of getting another one!

That was the treatment that I had. During the pre operation meeting with the consultant he innocently asked me if I knew what the procedure entailed. I told him I assumed it meant him making a small incision in my back and going in from there....how naive was I!!! When he then went on to explain exactly what he'd be doing sweat literally started pouring from my head, and that's no exaggeration - a very strange phenomena!
 
I feel your pain........I've had two bad bouts of trouble with kidney stones. The first time I managed to pass it naturally........which was a pretty awful but thankfully short experience. The second time round was much worse........a trip to A & E, painkilling suppositories (!) and then weeks of investigations including ultrasound scans, urine tests etc. The stone then got stuck on the junction leading down to my bladder and refused to budge which meant an operation to remove it. This took the form of a long tube containing a "zapper" device being passed up through my body - and I'm not going to mention where the tube was inserted! Suffice it to say that after the operation I was peeing blood for days on end!! Tests have shown that I am susceptible to more stones and I live in dread of getting another one!

That was the treatment that I had. During the pre operation meeting with the consultant he innocently asked me if I knew what the procedure entailed. I told him I assumed it meant him making a small incision in my back and going in from there....how naive was I!!! When he then went on to explain exactly what he'd be doing sweat literally started pouring from my head, and that's no exaggeration - a very strange phenomena!

No, it’s not an easy ride. :runaway:

When I was in hospital, the first stent was put in by going in from my lower back. A really weird experience, the only comfort was gas and air.
When I went back for my second I had a general anaesthetic. I didn't feel a thing. :lol:
When I went back to have it removed, it was with a camera and grabber going in through my todger. The surgeon said you can watch on the screen if you like, this I did for the first 8” :naughty: as if :whistling:. Then he had to enter the bladder by forcing through the sphincter, “the muscle that closes the bladder”, I didn’t see anything else, my eyes where closed in a grimace of pain. The stent, grabber and camera were then pulled out, reversing the procedure.
They, the nurses, won’t let you go home until they have seen you pee, pee its like “Ribena” for days.
Like I said in my first post “Please god never again.”

Rhodese.
 
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Having had a dose of UTI last year, the only time in all my life that I had any kind of infection, I can only have a small idea of what you guys must have felt/be feeling. Ouch. Get well soon.

By the way, I've been off Cola Cola for exactly one year to this month as I'm convinced it is that what had triggered off my UTI.
 
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I haven't had a uti, but watch out on the pain killers. I did my back last year and ended up on tramadol oral morph and some others, 20 odd tablets a day for about 2 months, don't really remember the 2 months at all but when I stopped taking all the pain killers I was in a right state with withdrawal symptoms, sweated it out over a week or so and was OK but that week was bloody awful
 
I had a big one lodged in the pipe between my kidney and the bladder, easily the worst pain I've ever experienced (the broken arm was a breeze next to this). It started when I got up in the night with severe abdominal cramps - thinking it was IBS (which I have) took some pills hoping it would ease off, but it got steadily worse, sweating, lots of vomiting & retching when there was nothing left to throw up, ended up at 5am in A&E, had intramuscular morphine but this did nothing to ease the pain, had to wait for doctors to start so I could get it intravenously (ahhh...). Some scans later and they said I'd need a drain putting in before they could zap the stone, as the blockage was causing a fluid buildup and swelling in the kidney which needed to be diverted away. I had to lie on my front on the operating table while a fuzzy ultrasound display was being used to work out where to shove a giant needle into my kidney through my back - after a couple of attempts they had to get a surgeon in to do it - I couldn't believe they were doing this to me while awake! This was definitely a painful procedure, and it left me with a tube coming out of my back which drained into a bag that would be strapped to my leg that had to be emptied regularly.

A few days later and I was going in for the op - a laser would be inserted through my urinary tract, through the bladder and into the blocked pipe where it would blast the stone to smithereens. Fortunately this is done under general anaesthetic, but you do suffer for it once you come round and it wears off - the amount of internal trauma caused is borne out by huge gungy lumps of blood that you pass, seemingly forever. The idea was that after the removal of the stone, with the pipe clear I could then have the drain removed and be on my way, but unfortunately the trauma was such that the pipe was blocked by inflammation which would take a few days to settle down, so they had to go in again (same way!) and put a stent in the pipe, which would enable the kidney to drain properly in the bladder. This meant that I could at least have the drain taken out and be on my way, returning in a couple of weeks to have the stent removed.

Having a stent in your kidney is not pleasant, mainly because you get no real notice of having to go the toilet - it comes on suddenly and you are instantly desparate to go, so a toilet must always be nearby. And then there's the pain when you do find the toilet - it hurts, a lot - and there's no feeling of completion either, just a dull ache. You only know that you're done once the drips stop.

After a couple of weeks of this the time came to have my stent out, I was told it would be an outpatient appointment and would take all of 20 minutes. Of course, this meant no general anaesthetic - I would be awake this time when they shoved a scary-looking thing down my chap (whatever you do, don't make my mistake of googling 'cystoscope'...). What this involved was, in some ways, more uncomfortable than the kidney stone itself, involving a gaggle of nurses around you (they would have to be all female wouldn't they...), one of which lubricated the tip - the urge to avoid eye contact is all-consuming, let me tell you. Then the torture began, the cystoscope was inserted and pushed into the bladder, which was then inflated with warm water, so you get the constant urge to 'go' which you are constantly fighting seemingly to no avail - it's like you are on your back doing the biggest slash of your life while surrounded by nurses. The doctor in charge, who was operating the cystoscope, looks intently through the eyepiece, trying to locate the end of the stent with some kind of grabber that can then pull it out, the same way it went in. Once located, it is whipped out (for want of a better expression) and it is over - off to the loo for the first semi-normal visit to the toilet in weeks, I say semi-normal as it is just a bladderful of warm water after all.

On the whole, not an experience I'd recommend
 
After reading all of those stories, I bet Gary's really glad he started this thread now :lol:
Sort of only backing up what i already thought, theres no way i will allow them to go down my todger, i had a cemera down there a few years ago checking my bladder lining and im not going through that again, i even had a general as well but was in agony for about 5 days after
 
Sort of only backing up what i already thought, theres no way i will allow them to go down my todger, i had a cemera down there a few years ago checking my bladder lining and im not going through that again, i even had a general as well but was in agony for about 5 days after


I know what you mean.:lol:. The other side effect of my bad back was not being able to pee, so they catheterised me, then the next day took it out, then but it back in and this happened for about 4 days ,when they let me out after about a week the catheter nurse came round to see me and decided I had to self catheterise so had to poke a tube up the old man at least once every 4 hours and that went on for about 8 or 9 weeks.

Hope you are feeling better.
 
had them ooh about two years ago.. three trips to A&E, on three consecutive days, first one was by ambulance as i passed out due to the pain and Mrs S freaked... most intense pain ever... about 10 x more than when Slimbert bust my legs...
 
I've just had my pre op assesment for the laser op
I had a big one lodged in the pipe between my kidney and the bladder, easily the worst pain I've ever experienced (the broken arm was a breeze next to this). It started when I got up in the night with severe abdominal cramps - thinking it was IBS (which I have) took some pills hoping it would ease off, but it got steadily worse, sweating, lots of vomiting & retching when there was nothing left to throw up, ended up at 5am in A&E, had intramuscular morphine but this did nothing to ease the pain, had to wait for doctors to start so I could get it intravenously (ahhh...). Some scans later and they said I'd need a drain putting in before they could zap the stone, as the blockage was causing a fluid buildup and swelling in the kidney which needed to be diverted away. I had to lie on my front on the operating table while a fuzzy ultrasound display was being used to work out where to shove a giant needle into my kidney through my back - after a couple of attempts they had to get a surgeon in to do it - I couldn't believe they were doing this to me while awake! This was definitely a painful procedure, and it left me with a tube coming out of my back which drained into a bag that would be strapped to my leg that had to be emptied regularly.

A few days later and I was going in for the op - a laser would be inserted through my urinary tract, through the bladder and into the blocked pipe where it would blast the stone to smithereens. Fortunately this is done under general anaesthetic, but you do suffer for it once you come round and it wears off - the amount of internal trauma caused is borne out by huge gungy lumps of blood that you pass, seemingly forever. The idea was that after the removal of the stone, with the pipe clear I could then have the drain removed and be on my way, but unfortunately the trauma was such that the pipe was blocked by inflammation which would take a few days to settle down, so they had to go in again (same way!) and put a stent in the pipe, which would enable the kidney to drain properly in the bladder. This meant that I could at least have the drain taken out and be on my way, returning in a couple of weeks to have the stent removed.

Having a stent in your kidney is not pleasant, mainly because you get no real notice of having to go the toilet - it comes on suddenly and you are instantly desparate to go, so a toilet must always be nearby. And then there's the pain when you do find the toilet - it hurts, a lot - and there's no feeling of completion either, just a dull ache. You only know that you're done once the drips stop.

After a couple of weeks of this the time came to have my stent out, I was told it would be an outpatient appointment and would take all of 20 minutes. Of course, this meant no general anaesthetic - I would be awake this time when they shoved a scary-looking thing down my chap (whatever you do, don't make my mistake of googling 'cystoscope'...). What this involved was, in some ways, more uncomfortable than the kidney stone itself, involving a gaggle of nurses around you (they would have to be all female wouldn't they...), one of which lubricated the tip - the urge to avoid eye contact is all-consuming, let me tell you. Then the torture began, the cystoscope was inserted and pushed into the bladder, which was then inflated with warm water, so you get the constant urge to 'go' which you are constantly fighting seemingly to no avail - it's like you are on your back doing the biggest slash of your life while surrounded by nurses. The doctor in charge, who was operating the cystoscope, looks intently through the eyepiece, trying to locate the end of the stent with some kind of grabber that can then pull it out, the same way it went in. Once located, it is whipped out (for want of a better expression) and it is over - off to the loo for the first semi-normal visit to the toilet in weeks, I say semi-normal as it is just a bladderful of warm water after all.

On the whole, not an experience I'd recommend

Mine so i've been told is 1.4cm!
I've just had the pre op assesment for the laser option. They offered me the lithotripsy (smashing them with sound waves) But as I've had kidney stones before and had lithotripsy before which feels like a baby elephant jumping on your kidney every time your heart beats I decided against it and opted for the laser. But, after reading the above post by John I am now undecided which route to follow? I quite like the idea of a small 'nick' in your back, take the bloody thing out, couple of stitches, Bit of bed rest job done! The stitches will be the ones that desolve by themselves so I never have to see another hospital again!
The only pain relief that my GP offered me was co-codamol which does b****r all apart from make you feel sick! He also said that due to the location of my kidney stone it should not give me to much trouble...... I hated to disapoint him!
So that's where I am up to pre-op done and just waiting for the appointment for surgery.
One thing that I have noticed though is that when it begins to hurt really badly (it hurts all the time) if I drink lots of fluid and I mean 'LOTS OF FLUID' most of the time it settles down again.
 
Sort of only backing up what i already thought, theres no way i will allow them to go down my todger, i had a cemera down there a few years ago checking my bladder lining and im not going through that again, i even had a general as well but was in agony for about 5 days after

Spinal anaesthetic with a bit of opiate in it (like they do for the ladies having C-sections)?

I'm guessing you can't take non-steroidals Garry as they are the best of a bad bunch for dealing with the pain. Tramadol does cause those funny effects you described.

Hope you get it sorted

S
 
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