Anyone gone from a 5D to a 1D MkIII ??

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Hello all,

Heres my situation. I had a 40D and someone wanted to by it off of me desperatey, so i sold it to them, thinking i would like to try a 5D seeing as they were going for very cheap.
I love the 5D, but then again i loved the 40D, for differnet reasons, and its only becuse i have found someone selling a second hand 1D MkIII for cheap (ish) i am now in a position on whether or not to trade "up".

I have the following lenses :
24.105mm L
17-40mm L
70-200mm F/4 L
100mm Macro

So quality of glass isnt a problem (well maybe could get the 70-200 f/2.8, but not just yet !!!)

So has anyone gone from a 5D to a 1D MkIII and is it worth an extra £600? Or has anyone got both and can you compare?
By the way, i use a 5D with grip, so size isnt an issue.

Ta for any input.
 
Iv just got a MkIII to go with my 5D... so far iv fallen in love with it.. im sure theres going to be SOMETHING to let it down! but iv not found it yet..

It seems the images need a little more sharpening than the 5D but thats hardly a problem. iv not yet used it to compare to the 5D as iv been busy, but so far it looks good..

Iv got the MkIII for a very different type of photography than what i used the 5 for.. id like to get out and do a comparison but not at the moment..

Its a cracking camera and feels really nice to use.. the buttons are in the perfect place and navigating the menues is easy..

Id love to get the Ds to go with it!! but im not going to rob a bank to get one!! lol.. i wouldnt mind getting another one too..

Its a great comera.. you'll like it... a LOT....

BTW, its quite light!! lighter than the 5D with grip!! lol..
 
Personally, I'd find myself being irritated by the crop factor on the 1D.

Having experienced the 5D's full frame sensor and the lovely IQ it produces, and the natural grain-like noise on high ISOs, I'd never "downgrade" to a crop sensor. Full frame all the way from now on :)

Start saving for a 1Ds Mk III?

A.
 
I have a 5D and a 1D II. You may know more but from what I recall, there is not a lot of IQ difference between the II and III.

I almost never use the 1 unless it for something that moves fast or happens in very camera unfriendly conditions. Everything about the 1 feels much better than the 5 and it's an absolute joy to wield and use but sadly, the 5 just walks it for image quality.
 
I thought there might be a contrast in views on this.
I hear what you are saying about the IQ being better on the 5D, but then again i took some better shots with my 40D than i did with my 5D ...... so maybe then i should get back a 40D !!!
I love the FF, but really want to take more sport photos (cycling round my way) and feel the x1.3 would help, also a bit more reach as the 40D gave me, though more than the 1D MkIII, would also help.

The 5D is a lovely camera, but for what works out to be only £600, i get a better processor, liveview, sensorcleaning, FPS, lighter, battery performance, bigger screen and one of the main things : Microadjustement.

TBH, i think the 1D MkIII is winning, ta Fraggle101.
Oh and the 1Ds MkIII ....... im not stupid. £4700 !!!!

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I've got a 5D and 1Ds MkII I know I'm daft but I fell in love with the full frame on the 5D and it's full frame for me from now.

It very much depends what you are shooting. I don't shoot sports or motorsport so the crop sensor is less of an issue (Plus I have a 20D hiding under the bed but don't tell!)

If you need the extra autofocus performance then go for it and you won't regret it. They are also built like tanks!
 
Is the 1.3 noticeable ? I know there is quite a difference in the 40D 1.6x and FF, but the 1D sits nicely in between, i was kinda hoping it wouldnt make too much difference.

I do like the full 17mm on FF, but when i looked in Lightroom, out of 2000 shots with the 5D only 17 have been fully at 17mm, then rest greater.
Therefore it shows i dont always go to 17mm and on the 1D that would equate to 22mm.

I think i have made p my mind though .... 1D MkIII is pretty much on its way.
 
Anorakus said:
Personally, I'd find myself being irritated by the crop factor on the 1D.

Having experienced the 5D's full frame sensor and the lovely IQ it produces, and the natural grain-like noise on high ISOs, I'd never "downgrade" to a crop sensor. Full frame all the way from now on :)

Start saving for a 1Ds Mk III?

A.
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Downgrade :lol: what makes you say that lol.
 
malla1962 said:
Downgrade :lol: what makes you say that lol.
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I dont see a crop as a downgrade, as i certainly loved the 40D and in some ways prefered it to the 5D, its just the viewfinder that really helped in making the 5D a joy to use.
 
FetchMeMyTools said:
I dont see a crop as a downgrade, as i certainly loved the 40D and in some ways prefered it to the 5D, its just the viewfinder that really helped in making the 5D a joy to use.
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I have a 1dmk2 and a 1dsmk2 and find having both crop and full frame very handy.
 
malla1962 said:
I have a 1dmk2 and a 1dsmk2 and find having both crop and full frame very handy.
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I fully agree.. having the two is great.. and dont forget.. the 1D is a pro camera.. if having a crop was so bad the pro's wouldnt use it!!! :naughty:
 
But for my original post, am i stupid going from a 5D to a 1D MkIII for only £600 when the RRP from new 5D to new MkIII is £1300?

Im not a pro, although i do some jobs when i can (got 2 weddings and a christening soon). I have got to the point where i can appreciate other peoples work and it certainly not the camera that makes the photo, its the person behind it, and taking that into consideration getting a MkIII "cheap" has got to be an option simply to give myself the best opportunity to take decent photos for the price. And i bet it will definately make me think about my shots more. How many more AF points !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its the fact that i can get the MkIII with very few clicks for very little money. I woudl be stupid not to try it and if i dont get on with it, then look at changing ..... and would probably go back to a 40D if the truth be told. :suspect:
 
the image quality on the 5D will knock the spots off the 40D!! AND the 1D if truth be told.. there just isnt the resolution when compared to the 5D.. but its a mighty fine camera and has lots of plusses the others dont have.. i like my MkIII.. but im not getting rid of my 5D... im not helping am i!! lol..
 
fraggle101 said:
the image quality on the 5D will knock the spots off the 40D!! AND the 1D if truth be told.. there just isnt the resolution when compared to the 5D.. but its a mighty fine camera and has lots of plusses the others dont have.. i like my MkIII.. but im not getting rid of my 5D... im not helping am i!! lol..
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Sorry - but I have to disagree. Lots of very reputable writers will tell you there's little if any difference in image quality between the 40D and 5D. Some would say the 40D is slightly better.

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i took some frames on friday, when i pulled them up on the computer they didnt look toogreat cropped in at 100%.. when i do this on my 5D i can see the nose hair on the flies in the background!! admittedly this wasnt a scientific test and it WAS a picture using a wide lens that needed cropping in the first place.. but im sure it would have been better in the 5. i still need to do a test for my own benifit really.. also iv noticed that images need more sharpening! im not sure if this is normal??
 
I've noticed a huge leap in IQ since I started using the 40D. The 40D is the most camera Canon have ever put on the market at this price point.

Don't forget the 5D is showing it's age now - the 40D has the new Digic 3 processor which makes a huge difference. The 5D is a great camera - no argument, and there's no arguing the FOV advantage for landsapes etc, but when it comes to cropping and counting remaining pixel density - the 40D beats everything including the new 1DSMK3. :)
 
FetchMeMyTools said:
But for my original post, am i stupid going from a 5D to a 1D MkIII for only £600 when the RRP from new 5D to new MkIII is £1300?
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I think you would be stupid not to go for it if it works ok with the fix! When the 5dmk2 comes out you will pick a 5d up pretty cheap I would think ( if you miss the full frame ) A friend of mine posted some Kite surfing shots
on here the other day using his 1dmk2 , and he has just posted some zoo shots with his 5D go compare the IQ on them.:thumbs:
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=68113
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=70365
 
I use the 1DMKiii and a 5D at weddings, both cameras on me, 5D for wide shots, 1D for longer stuff. The IQ is pretty much identical from both cameras.

Having used full frame, I would be loathe to use anything else for wideangle work so if you're not keeping both cameras that might be a consideration.

The focussing on the 1D is far superior in terms of speed than the 5D, especially when using the outer points - in fact the outer points on the 5D are so bad they might as well not be there. For fast action stuff like motorsport there's no competition, the 1D wins every time.

For me the main problem with the 1D is weight - not that's it's too heavy, but it ain't light. I used to shoot weddings with 2 x 1DMKii, after eight hours on your shoulders you can really feel it. It's better now using the MKiii and the 5D, but if I've been using the 5D on it's own for a while and then pick up the MKiii I always have a little groan.

The MKiii went in for repair recently and I shot this weekend with 2 x 5D. 10 hours on Friday and eight hours yesterday, not a squeak from my back or shoulders. When the new 5D comes out I'm switching to two of those (assuming they improve the focus system)
 
I know every mm counts at the wide end but compared to the MkIII and its 1.3x crop factor at 17mm there is only 5mm difference between the 2.
i think i can cope with that.

As for weight, i use a battery grip due to ease of use in portraits.

5D + grip + batteries = 810g + 170g + 85g + 85g = 1150g

1D MkIII = 1335g

So not too much difference there.
So really if im not bothered about an extra 5mm on the wide end, then surely spending a small amount in terms of what ive already spent would go a long way.
Pictures on the way ....... (well next week !!!)
 
WeddingHack said:
For me the main problem with the 1D is weight - not that's it's too heavy, but it ain't light.
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I was actually surprised at how light the 1dmk3 was compared to the 40D + grip + 2 batts. But if memory serves you shoot the 70-200 f/2.8 IS so I guess it's pretty heavy all in. If I can I stick to the 50mm or 135mm and foot zoom if I need to. Overall it's a much lighter load, of course sometimes I need to zoom and the 24-105 is my weapon of choice - if only it came in a f/2.8 flavour :(

Maybe Canon should look at a stripped down mk3 with no grip, smaller battery and lose the weather sealing too?
 
pxl8 said:
Maybe Canon should look at a stripped down mk3 with no grip, smaller battery and lose the weather sealing too?
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I think you're probably describing the new 5D there ...
 
pxl8 said:
I was actually surprised at how light the 1dmk3 was compared to the 40D + grip + 2 batts. But if memory serves you shoot the 70-200 f/2.8 IS so I guess it's pretty heavy all in. If I can I stick to the 50mm or 135mm and foot zoom if I need to. Overall it's a much lighter load, of course sometimes I need to zoom and the 24-105 is my weapon of choice - if only it came in a f/2.8 flavour :(
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I only use the 70-200 outside, inside I'm strictly primes. Don't get me wrong, the weight in itself isn't a problem for me, I'm a big bloke, but at the end of 8 or 10 hour days, all day on my feet carrying two cameras, i'm always happy to put them down, and I think my back will thank me for lightening the load in the long run.
 
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