Anyone else using their camera less because of their mobile?

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Alastair said:
The fun has gone out of this argument, Michael has started agreeing with me.. .. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Yes the fun have gone out of it because it seems my replies have been confrontational and argumentative toward other members. anyway i don't get these words said to me at work lucky for me:) it hard to have ones opinion;)

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Must say never used my camera phone,not that I have anything against using them.
I always carry an DSLR with me or an Mirrorless camera :)
 
I've got quite a good camera on my phone (5Mp samsung) and I've taken 7 photos on it. 1 of a battery that I wanted to look for on the web, 3 of a computer game so I could remember where I was and 3 of the wifes boobs and they're the only ones I look at really.
On the other hand, I must have taken over 40,000 photos with my various cameras over the years and I don't think the ratio is going to change much soon.
 
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<sniffs the air>

Was there a whiff of Jaffa Cakes in here?
The correct answer is that it really doesn't matter what brand as long as they have chocolate and yummy orangey filling :cool:

CanonEOS said:
Yes the fun have gone out of it because it seems my replies have been confrontational and argumentative toward other members. anyway i don't get these words said to me at work lucky for me:) it hard to have ones opinion;)
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To be fair, it's a completely different thing at work or in person when people can see your body language and facial expressions - things don't always come across the same way online.
Nevertheless, for someone who's been here a while you do seem to be drawn to argumentative threads like a mod to a Jaffa Cake ;)

Anyway, probably time to get back to mobile phones now.
Unfortunately I can't offer an opinion as my phone only makes phone calls and sends text messages (oh - and it has a torch as well :lol:)
 
I notice a lot more people on here buying Micro 4/3rds and using them a lot and getting quality shots. Things will probably get smaller while the quality gets better.
 
Alastair said:
Not really.

I have a DSLR, MF film SLR, cheap compact and a phone camera. Not one of them can take a photo worth a jaffa cake.

I know because I've lined them all up and said, "Go on, take a good picture".

Being inanimate objects they just sat there and did nothing.

However, when I pick them up and apply my skills and knowledge, I've taken pictures with all of them that I consider to be pretty good and worth printing for my albumn or to hang on the wall.

There all just tools. Nothing more, nothing less. A good image is the result of the users knowledge, experience and creativity.
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Haha, fantastic way to make the point.

The best camera is the one you have with you.

Also, the best camera is the one you enjoy using because enjoyment breeds creativity.
 
I have only used my phone camera once. I keep my Canon S95 in my pocket at all times and I would say that since I had the S95 my DSLR usage has dropped by 20%. Having said this my total photography has increased by 40% because I have the S95.
 
I must be the only person who doesn't have a mobile
 
Not so much my slr, but I've certainly used my compact less since I got a Nokia N8 a year or so ago. It's a competent enough camera and is always with me, as it's not practical for me to take a bigger camera everywhere with me, heck, I'm not even allowed to take a camera on site with me at work and some of the places that I visit.
 
CanonEOS said:
It's not worth buying one you have DSLR like me that's you best tool;)
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Not for making a phone call it isn't...
 
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Alastair said:
I have a DSLR, MF film SLR, cheap compact and a phone camera. Not one of them can take a photo worth a jaffa cake.

I know because I've lined them all up and said, "Go on, take a good picture".

Being inanimate objects they just sat there and did nothing.
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Had this mental picture of someone sitting at a table and talking to their cameras all lined up... :lol:

My phone camera was my only camera til 1 1/2 years ago and I still use it sometimes as its still my phone (an oldish Sony Ericsson one). It can capture a moment but I wouldn't consider using it in place of my camera.
 
For me it's been the other way around.

I've been using my Nokia E71 (3.2MP) camera phone for a few years, going to various places on holiday and getting some great results from it, not thinking I'd want to upgrade it.

However, now I've got my DSLR, I wish I could go back to all the places and take all the pics again.
Without getting my DSLR, I wouldn't have found this forum, and want to learn how to improve my photography skills.

Chris
 
fixedimage said:
Also, the best camera is the one you enjoy using because enjoyment breeds creativity.
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That's a really good point. The images I take with my mobile certainly bring out a different creative side to my photography.
 
Alastair said:
Not really.

I have a DSLR, MF film SLR, cheap compact and a phone camera. Not one of them can take a photo worth a jaffa cake.

I know because I've lined them all up and said, "Go on, take a good picture".

Being inanimate objects they just sat there and did nothing.

However, when I pick them up and apply my skills and knowledge, I've taken pictures with all of them that I consider to be pretty good and worth printing for my albumn or to hang on the wall.

There all just tools. Nothing more, nothing less. A good image is the result of the users knowledge, experience and creativity.
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best post I've seen on here...
 
I've definitely taken more pics on my iPhone in the past year than with my DSLR - for me, it's not about quality of the images but more about capturing the moment. I have a 1 year old and sometimes he'll do something that I just need to capture on camera or video instantly. I could go upstairs and grab my DSLR, but by the time I've got the camera out of the bag, fit the correct lens, attached the flash, the moment might have gone completely, whereas my iPhone is always within reach.

I also think with apps such as Camera+ and Instagram, PP is effortless and you have the convenience of sharing the finished image with friends and family on Youtube, Facebook or Twitter instantly! With my DSLR, I'd have to convert the RAW images to jpeg, re-size the images etc etc. So, in summary, for pure convenience, mobile phone wins but it will never ever replace my DSLR.
 
CanonEOS said:
Hi Sarah
I was only ask a question to "Woof Woof" i am not looking for any argument just opinion, maybe next time i use the IMO or IMHO. next time but when i am at work i never use this word opinion, only on the forums
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As has been said, because I want to pick the best tool for the job.

I had a DSLR before I bough my first compact and although I like photography I'm not going to take a DSLR with me every single time I leave the house. I have a life beyond photography and sometimes a DSLR is simply impractical or inappropriate.
 
Compact cameras are definitely the way forward. I own a D3, D300s, yet 95% of my shots will have been with my iPhone and M4/3 camera this year...and the majority of those with the iPhone. So that's something for the gear heads/pixel peepers to get their head round!! Portability and convenience is definitely the way forward. I just couldn't be 'one of those people' that would carry a separate camera around with them all the time, unless I was going out definitely with shooting in mind. However, my iPhone is always always on me! And my photography is all the better for it!
 
There are certainly some advantages to compacts in some situations. After selling my digital kit I found myself short of a good compact, and my phone just didn't cut it. My LX5 fits in nicely though and can fit in my pocket/sit in the car on trips out on the off chance something photo worthy pops up, where it wouldn't really be practical to be carting round a bag load of lenses and different films.
 
Cheng said:
Compact cameras are definitely the way forward. I own a D3, D300s, yet 95% of my shots will have been with my iPhone and M4/3 camera this year...and the majority of those with the iPhone. So that's something for the gear heads/pixel peepers to get their head round!! Portability and convenience is definitely the way forward. I just couldn't be 'one of those people' that would carry a separate camera around with them all the time, unless I was going out definitely with shooting in mind. However, my iPhone is always always on me! And my photography is all the better for it!
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My DSLR,is alway within reach,where as i can never find my phone :D
 
Nikon_Nick said:
No, but I have a Blackberry, and the camera on it is shocking!!
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Same here. The IQ on mine is terrible. Although I do tend to use it on days/nights at the rugby club, usually for silly little things, and the compact does stay in the drawer more
 
The camera in my phone is pretty good. It just means I take more photos as I wouldn't want to lug a dslr everywhere and never have. I always had a compact camera with me. This is what a phone camera replaces. For me, anyway. I now don't use a compact camera at all. Partly because I can't find it :(
 
The limitations of the iPhone when compared to a DSLR, I&#8217;ll list all the ones I can think of.
1. No interchangeable lenses
2. The user can&#8217;t control/adjust the shutter speed
3. The user can&#8217;t control/adjust the aperture setting
4. Small sensor limits the ability to produce quality prints larger than 8X10
5. Image quality degrades in low-light situations
6. Only 5 megapixels
7. No on-camera white balance control
8. No IS.
9. The iPhone4 has a 5x digital zoom slider.
However, if you use a digital zoom you will lose image quality, and the iPhone is equivalent to a 28mm wide angle lens on a 35mm camera.

If people want to buy & use the iphone that's fine but you are not going to get the same IQ found in a DSLR print, the world of photography is not a P&S or iphone it's a DSLR world. IMO i only use my phone to talk on that's what it was design for the iphone is only good for email and websites photos no bigger then 8x10. compare with DSLR Raw 5184x3456 print.:)

Also iphone camera was only design for people who love Jpeg;)

DSLR Photography is quickly becoming the latest hobby craze. It&#8217;s a million dollar industry that shows little indication of slowing down. And having the very best equipment is important to maintaining this fun and fulfilling hobby.
 
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CanonEOS said:
The limitations of the iPhone when compared to a DSLR, I’ll list all the ones I can think of.
1. No interchangeable lenses
2. The user can’t control/adjust the shutter speed
3. The user can’t control/adjust the aperture setting
4. Small sensor limits the ability to produce quality prints larger than 8X10
5. Image quality degrades in low-light situations
6. Only 5 megapixels
7. No on-camera white balance control
8. No IS.
9. The iPhone4 has a 5x digital zoom slider.
However, if you use a digital zoom you will lose image quality, and the iPhone is equivalent to a 28mm wide angle lens on a 35mm camera.

If people want to buy & use the iphone that's fine but you are not going to get the same IQ found in a DSLR print, the world of photography is not a P&S or iphone it's a DSLR world. IMO i only use my phone to talk on that's what it was design for the iphone is only good for email and websites photos no bigger then 8x10. compare with DSLR Raw 5184x3456 print.:)

Also iphone camera was only design for people who love Jpeg;)
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Why do you feel the burning need to bring your anti-Apple sentiments to this thread? They are certainly not welcome. When I created the thread I deliberately didn't say what mobile I had in the vain hope that trolls like you wouldn't feel the need to turn the thread into a confrontational one. You have a problem. Why don't you create an anti-iPhone thread so you can spout forth there and keep the above rubbish out of this thread. You are contributing NOTHING to the debate. You've been told off and had stuff deleted, you just don't learn do you?
 
CanonEOS said:
The limitations of the iPhone when compared to a DSLR, I&#146;ll list all the ones I can think of.
1. No interchangeable lenses
2. The user can&#146;t control/adjust the shutter speed
3. The user can&#146;t control/adjust the aperture setting
4. Small sensor limits the ability to produce quality prints larger than 8X10
5. Image quality degrades in low-light situations
6. Only 5 megapixels
7. No on-camera white balance control
8. No IS.
9. The iPhone4 has a 5x digital zoom slider.
However, if you use a digital zoom you will lose image quality, and the iPhone is equivalent to a 28mm wide angle lens on a 35mm camera.

If people want to buy & use the iphone that's fine but you are not going to get the same IQ found in a DSLR print, the world of photography is not a P&S or iphone it's a DSLR world. IMO i only use my phone to talk on that's what it was design for the iphone is only good for email and websites photos no bigger then 8x10. compare with DSLR Raw 5184x3456 print.:)

Also iphone camera was only design for people who love Jpeg;)
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THIS THREAD ISN'T ABOUT COMPARISONS!! Phew, glad I got that off my chest...

I will always prefer my dslr in any given photography situation, but sometimes that isn't always possible. My dslr's have iq etc that poo's on my iPhone, but most of the time they are sat in my office. I'd rather have a half reasonable shot of a great moment from my iPhone than no shot at all! And that's the point which continues to be made but you keep missing. It's really not that hard to grasp!
 
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CanonEOS said:
Also iphone camera was only design for people who love Jpeg;)
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You don't view raw, you don't print raw.

Your statment makes even less sense than the SOOC argument.


Michael. Do you even care if an image is pleasing to look at?

Sharpness and technical specs are strictly the domain of OCD and have very little to do with whether an image is any good.
 
Michael - Ok - We get it - you don't think that the IQ of cameraphones is particularly good. Fine. I don't honestly think that anyone in here is actually disputing the fact that you'll get a far better technical quality out of a DSLR than you will out of a iPhone/Android/Blackberry et.al.

However, I don't oftenwalk around with a backpack, A couple of DLSR's and a half dozen lenses. I certainly don't carry all that with me when I'm on a bike ride. What I DO have with me is a mobile phone that takes "good enough" quality photographs to be a reference for future repeat visits, which automatically geotags the shots, so that I can come back to the exact location 3 years later if need be, and which most of all, is with me unless I'm dressed for swimming! The best camera in the world is worthless and useless if it's in it's peli-case, under the desk in the office.


Now - with my Moderators hat on, I'm going to issue you with a warning here - we will NOT TOLERATE any further trolling or deliberately harsh or confrontational attitude within this thread. You've said your piece, now I suggest that if you don't want to be taking a little time off from the forum as a whole, that you step away from this thread - perhaps you should go out and use your beloved DSLR, take some photographs, process the RAW files and post them for critique in our photo sharing sections.
 
Ricardodaforce said:
Why do you feel the burning need to bring your anti-Apple sentiments to this thread? They are certainly not welcome. When I created the thread I deliberately didn't say what mobile I had in the vain hope that trolls like you wouldn't feel the need to turn the thread into a confrontational one. You have a problem. Why don't you create an anti-iPhone thread so you can spout forth there and keep the above rubbish out of this thread. You are contributing NOTHING to the debate. You've been told off and had stuff deleted, you just don't learn do you?
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I am only putting my opinion across or point of view on Talk photography anyone can reply to a thread and sometime that thread might go off topic some times there you go again using words like "Troll" i think in all my replies to other members i never use this word at all.
 
CanonEOS said:
DSLR Photography is quickly becoming the latest hobby craze. It&#8217;s a million dollar industry that shows little indication of slowing down. And having the very best equipment is important to maintaining this fun and fulfilling hobby.
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....and simply for balance, many of those dslr buyers will have got addicted to photography because suddenly they could take a picture on their phone.

However, as someone that earns an income from using some of 'the very best equipment' I can add more balance and say the pleasure taken from managing to get an aesthetically pleasing picture on my phone which I just pulled from my pocket/handbag [as opposed to car boot full of peli case and various bags] is equal - in fact you could argue that it is almost better, simply because my phone doesn't have all the technological ability to hand, it really IS all about my ability to compose and construct a good photograph. You most certainly don't need the best kit to maintain photography as a hobby, far, far from it.


In answer to the thread question, no I don't use my phone more than my camera, but I do use it now when previously I would have missed a picture simply because I didn't have many kilos of heavy kit with me :)
 
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CanonEOS said:
having the very best equipment is important to maintaining this fun and fulfilling hobby.
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If I put the reply I want, I'll get banned.

Anyway. Have fun with your hobby Michael. It's obviously very different to mine.
 
Damn, the mods have tidied this up. My last comment was amusing as well. Made me chuckle at least!
 
odd jim said:
Damn, the mods have tidied this up. My last comment was amusing as well. Made me chuckle at least!
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Some of us saw/laughed at it. LOL
 
malo50 said:
Some of us saw/laughed at it. LOL
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fixedimage said:
I saw it before it was deleted and it made me chuckle too.
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Glad it wasn't completely wasted, lol!
 
fixedimage said:
I saw it before it was deleted and it made me chuckle too.
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The thread should probably have been closed after your comment prior to Jim's.. . :nono: :lol:

Remember the motto on the back of the watch given to retiring Mods.. it's appropriate for all of us..

"Don't let the b******s wind you up!"


Now, let's all put the kettle on and have a jaffa cake..

:jaffa:
 
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