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Hi again folks,

I recently installed W7 x64 onto my desktop machine. I run a home network that has 3 W7 and 1 Vista computers on it. The network is working fine and all the computers can see the folders and drives they are supposed to but I have a problem trying to synchronise some folders.

I'm running SyncToy (v2.1) on both my desktop and laptop machines, which are both W7 x64. One of the things I want to synchronise is my Outlook so that I have the same emails, contacts and diary on both machines. The outlook.pst file is stored in a hidden folder on both machines. I can see the one on the laptop from the desktop but not the other way around and I can't figure out why :thinking:

I've tried to make the folder tree un-hidden but that doesn't work - nothing I've tried works.

Before I installed the x64 Windows on the desktop all this was working fine, so what am I doing wrong?
 
Can you see anything on the laptop? Does it take a long time (in comparison) to browse the laptop?

If you open a command prompt, what does

net view

show from different machines? Does the laptop show there?

What does ipconfig /all

on the two machines give you?
 
I've found you have to change the local network network to 'trusted' in Kasperskys firewall settings for local sharing to work properly. might be something similar in other security software?

Alternatively couldn't you just go into outlooks settings and move the store location to somewhere visible to both machines? I've never tried syncing outlook so don't know how it works.
 
arad85 said:
Can you see anything on the laptop? Does it take a long time (in comparison) to browse the laptop?

If you open a command prompt, what does

net view

show from different machines? Does the laptop show there?
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I get the same list of computers and printers on both machines

What does ipconfig /all

on the two machines give you?
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Laptop:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Steve>cd\

C:\>net view
Server Name Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\EPSONE7226A
\\EPSONPX710W
\\STEVE-LAPTOP Steve's Laptop
\\STEVE-PC
The command completed successfully.


C:\>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Steve-Laptop
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Virtual WiFi Miniport Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 1A-E4-00-3A-CF-46
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal Area Network)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-27-13-CE-A4-18
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR9285 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 78-E4-00-3A-CF-46
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::64cc:f55d:ef77:c8c0%12(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.107(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 24 February 2012 17:19:32
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 25 February 2012 00:28:53
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 326689792
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-13-5F-2A-48-C8-0A-A9-71-B6-41

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe FE Family Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C8-0A-A9-71-B6-41
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{996304B3-1ABC-43E3-953A-D4560E5528B2}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{A586D651-27C6-40F3-AACA-C075C4A9CEC8}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{DA7C414F-BD40-4C36-8BF8-FA9979E14038}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #3
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:5ef5:79fb:349c:329a:3f57:fe94(Pref
erred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::349c:329a:3f57:fe94%13(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter isatap.{F060D842-DF97-4202-A148-4331E122B2AD}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #4
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Desktop:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Steve>cd\

C:\>net view
Server Name Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\EPSONE7226A
\\EPSONPX710W
\\STEVE-LAPTOP Steve's Laptop
\\STEVE-PC
The command completed successfully.


C:\>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Steve-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS190 100/10 Ethernet Device
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-B9-AD-E8-6D
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::81ce:1801:45a6:d65b%11(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.102(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 24 February 2012 16:18:30
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 02 April 2148 05:22:22
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234888121
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-16-D0-84-2A-00-1B-B9-AD-E8-6D

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter isatap.{139074CA-0398-4A3E-8B63-488E2C1EE8C8}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:4137:9e76:1041:144a:addf:c94e(Pref
erred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::1041:144a:addf:c94e%13(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
 
Shrug... I'll have a think tomorrow... (wine precludes clear thinking at the moment ;))
 
neil_g said:
Not really answering the question but pst are evil and should die. Is there any reason why the email cannot be set up separately on the 3 machines as imap?
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This! Its the obvious solution for this conundrum.

Although, do be aware that on a slow connection outlook can hang up completely while it tries to complete an Imap command. I had this frustration with Imap on a 3G dongle and it was unusable.
 
I've had a think and.... drawn a blank :(
 
My guess would be that you haven't made this file, or even the folder, shareable on your desktop.

This would have been a new Office installation after you put on your Win7.

Just because you can see folders, doesn't mean you can access them.
 
Hi folks,

Thanks for giving this problem some thought. I decided to take neilg's suggestion and make the laptop account into an imap one.

@Mikephotaes: Yes, this was a new installation of Office. I had to make a completely new install of W7 and everything else on the computer - it's like hitting your head against a brick wall ... it feels good when you stop :bang: The folder is definately set as visible and shared but I know when I'm beaten :bonk:

Right, onto the next problem ;)
 
neil_g said:
Not really answering the question but pst are evil and should die. Is there any reason why the email cannot be set up separately on the 3 machines as imap?
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It is the answer to the question.

Pst files are designed not to synchronise. Its built in to encourage (force) SMEs to buy exchange server licences.

The way we have profile roaming at work means that we have to work around this regularly, we have exchange servers but with limited sized folders, so users circumvent the folder size by creating pst files. Which then break because that can't be used over a network.

The other option is to set up a share that holds the pst files rather than syncing them. I've never tried it though.

Access databases also refuse any normal windows synchronisation, they have to be sync'd within Access itself.
 
Phil V said:
The way we have profile roaming at work means that we have to work around this regularly, we have exchange servers but with limited sized folders, so users circumvent the folder size by creating pst files. Which then break because that can't be used over a network.
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Try doing IT support for bxxxdy lawyers. Min 3Gb PST's stored all over the damned place, local and server. Migration becomes quite amusing! :D


Phil V said:
Access databases also refuse any normal windows synchronisation, they have to be sync'd within Access itself.
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Done for the same reason that PSTs wont share properly. They want you on SQL.
 
DemiLion said:
Try doing IT support for bxxxdy lawyers. Min 3Gb PST's stored all over the damned place, local and server. Migration becomes quite amusing! :D

Done for the same reason that PSTs wont share properly. They want you on SQL.
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Feel your pain we're same with large pst all over the network. Hopefully next year we can budget for the enterprise exchange licence for bolt on archiving.. Least it'll be tidier..
 
.pst files and the inability to back them up when open is the reason I use Thunderbird at work rather than the corporate Outlook...........
 
Lets ignore the fact it's a PST file for the moment, it might be worth sticking a text file in to try.

It'll be permissions based, i.e. you haven't the permissions to see that file/folder path.

So starting from the start -

Network settings - are the ip address range/subnet mask and gateway configured to allow access to the other pc

firewall - can you get past the firewall to access that machine/share? Can you access other shares/resources?

Permissions - with a local machine, just because you have the same name account doesn't always mean you have the permission on the other machine (your accounts are PC1/username and PC2/Username so different). You can get around this, most easily by mapping a drive letter to the share and using the logon details from the other pc.

I'm assuming you haven't a blank password - there's other share access issues with blank passwords (i.e. not allowed by default).

Hopefully there's a few starters for you.
 
DemiLion said:
Try doing IT support for bxxxdy lawyers. Min 3Gb PST's stored all over the damned place, local and server. Migration becomes quite amusing! :D
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Try media support work, with large files mailed all over the place, product updates of nearly a Gb flying around on websites/FTP sites every week and large log files, added to people who won't archive/want to keep everything.

20-60Gb mail files are not unusual, but we currently use Lotus Notes.
I can't wait for exchange and Quotas
 
All the above posts indicate that the OP couldn't do what he previously says he did?

".....Before I installed the x64 Windows on the desktop all this was working fine, so what am I doing wrong? "
 
Byker28i said:
Lets ignore the fact it's a PST file for the moment, it might be worth sticking a text file in to try.

It'll be permissions based, i.e. you haven't the permissions to see that file/folder path.

So starting from the start -

Network settings - are the ip address range/subnet mask and gateway configured to allow access to the other pc
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Yes

firewall - can you get past the firewall to access that machine/share? Can you access other shares/resources?
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Yes

Permissions - with a local machine, just because you have the same name account doesn't always mean you have the permission on the other machine (your accounts are PC1/username and PC2/Username so different). You can get around this, most easily by mapping a drive letter to the share and using the logon details from the other pc.
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I've set sharing for the "users/xxx/appdata/local" directory tree to "Everyone" and permissions to full control

I'm assuming you haven't a blank password - there's other share access issues with blank passwords (i.e. not allowed by default).
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Not that I can see. I certainly haven't set a blank password.

Hopefully there's a few starters for you.
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Yeah, thanks Byker28i although using an IMAP account on the laptop is working okay ... so far :)
 
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