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Started up four weeks ago. Initially a minute was my limit but now up to 17 mins! At the weekend I treated myself to saucony trainers as I was using old rubbish ones. Had analysis and my left foot on particular was leaning to the instep so the pair I got have some form of protection. They felt great but after my first mile on Sunday I could feel some rubbing on the left instep and after was sore. Went out last night and after a mile stopped as could feel a blister forming. Is this normal with new trainers?
 
I started about 7 weeks ago, but have been off for the past three weeks following my shoulder operations. Not having done much running since school, I was surprised how easily I got into it. Done a couple of 5 milers, a seven miler and a couple of short fell runs in the Peak District, which were massively punishing but really rewarding.
Hoping to start running again in the next couple of weeks.
I have just got an iPhone and have been recommended to try out the Endomondo app to map and measure the route etc!
For off road running, do proper running shoes offer much more advantage over an old pair of skate trainers other than for grip?
Good work on getting into it, are you training for a particular goal, or just for fun?
 
i used to run to a pretty high level (English Schools X Country, then 1500 & 800m).. problem was, i hated it - but because i was good i was always made to do it by the school. Football was my preferred form of exercise. I still play footy now but find running so boring - but i think my problem is i set off too quick and then feel like packing in after a mile - i'm determined to get back into it in the new year and like you matty, i'm looking to the iphone to bring some interest into the running - music, route mapping, timing etc i think will add to motivating me to keep it going.

Simon, i don't think you should be getting blisters over such short distances like that even with new trainers - these things are built to mould to your feet and support where needed - was it a dedicated running store you went to or just a high street sports shop?
 
exercise has become a big part of my life now, have lost 4st 8lb since August..

but for the life of me I cannot run so I do super fast walking but 45 mins gets my heart pumping enough I think, I do try to run but I can only do sprinting or super fast walking, there is no inbetween.
 
exercise has become a big part of my life now, have lost 4st 8lb since August..

but for the life of me I cannot run so I do super fast walking but 45 mins gets my heart pumping enough I think, I do try to run but I can only do sprinting or super fast walking, there is no inbetween.

jeesh, that's some going! Were you an uncomfortable weight or just slightly rotund? :D
 
exercise has become a big part of my life now, have lost 4st 8lb since August..

but for the life of me I cannot run so I do super fast walking but 45 mins gets my heart pumping enough I think, I do try to run but I can only do sprinting or super fast walking, there is no inbetween.

That is an absolutely awesome achievement, you ought to be proud of that! If you keep on walking fast, then that is good aerobic exercise, and it is obviously working for you.
 
jeesh, that's some going! Were you an uncomfortable weight or just slightly rotund? :D

always been big but yeah I had some major excess, 23st6lb in August now 18st8lb (just realised that means 4st 12lb I think??, woohoo)..

what is going right for me is my mental state and my exercise, I am not after being a beefcake but with my routine which includes weight training I am toning very well, I am 6ft and broad shouldered and now have the 'rugby player physique'..

life is good.:thumbs:
 
to the OP: I used to run quite a bit and never really suffered with blisters. I was always under the impression blisters were a result of too much moisture so maybe the socks you are wearing are what is actually rubbing? I normally wore nike dryfit or whatever they are called with some others for winter. Although I can't think of the brand I always used socks designed for running.

I used to race in triathlons and the only real time I got blisters was when my training involved a swim->run. Getting out the pool with soaking wet feet often seemed to do it although a lot of people from the club recommended putting talc in your trainers to help soak it up I never tried it myself (gave up most of my training when I met the missus!)

@David...congrats, that's a great achievement
 
You really shouldn't be getting blisters like that. I would go back to the shop and have a chat. any running shop worth its salt should look after you as you could well be a repeat customer. What kind of socks are you wearing?

Ps, running is excellent exercise. Over the past 2 1/2 years I have lost 41kg and am still on the way down. 126kg at my heaviest and now down at 85kg.
 
I don't run anymore but used to do a lot until my knees let me down. My one piece of advice is to stop at the first hint of injury and get things looked at. In my case, fortunately I suppose, there was nothing I could have done to prevent the knee problems I have now, but too many people try to persevere with a problem rather than stopping and at least giving it a few days off to see if it disappears.
 
I used to run - a lot. Anything up to 100 miles in a race, and always over the hills and mountains. My preferred distance was 50/60 miles and I regularly won races at those distances. Trained anything up to 100 miles per week. Think I've done a bit of running in the past! Only stopped when the discs in my back got knackered with the pounding, but still hold some records from 30 years ago.

I'm interested in this protection for your instep. Never heard of that before. Sounds to me like you are pronating. That means that your ankle is falling over on itself onto the inside. Happens a lot. Happened to me. Sod all you can do about it except live with it. Yes you can get all sorts of instep and ankle supports. All these do is try and twist your foot into a more upright position. Trouble is that you were born that way, and putting wedges or inserts in your shoe just causes an imbalance elsewhere - usually your knee. Maybe if it had been spotted at birth it could have been corrected, but now your body is set, and there's nowt anyone can do about it.

I used to wear out a pair of racing shoes every year by pronating. Eventually you'll find that the heel cup just falls over to the inside and you are running more and more on that rather than the sole of your shoe. That's life, sorry. How badly you do it will determine if you can run seriously or not. If you've got it bad then you won't enjoy running more than a mile or two anyway. As I said I had it, and so did most of the guys I raced against. We just lived with it.

As for wet socks causing blisters? Unless they are pure nylon that is probably not the case. We frequently wet our shoes and socks before we set off, and anyway we were bound to get wet over the distances and weather conditions we went through. Yes, you might get blisters on pressure points on new shoes, especially as your feet are bound to be very soft at present. Your feet will harden up in time, but you may just have to put up with some blisters as part of the learning curve. You'll probably get some trouble from shin splints and maybe even Achilles/hamstring strains as your body adjusts to the new strains you are putting on it. We never took any special precautions for our feet before setting off on any run - but it takes time to get feet to that level of hardness.

If you really want to improve then you must get out of the jogging mentality. Work out some set routes to run over, with known distances. Keep a diary of how where you went and how you felt. Most importantly get a decent stopwatch and time yourself over each run. Write the time down to see how you're progressing. Work out a routine round your domestic arrangements and try and stick to it. Try not to run in the morning: your body is still half asleep, so always try and train afternoon or evening when you've loosened up. That will cause fewer injuries.

Leave the MP3 player and mobile phone at home and don't have anything stuck in your ears. Concentrate on what you are doing, not what your Twitbook contacts are saying.

Get yourself to a good, I mean GOOD sports shoe retailer. Forget JD Sports - forever. Find a shop where the owner goes out running regularly and get their advice. I hate clubs of any sort, but a running club will give you training partners, and guys to talk over your problems.

Lastly, and most importantly it all depends on your attitude. Do you want to do it, or would you just like to do it. If you want to do it then make your mind up to stick with it. If it's just something you think might be a good idea and you'll see how it goes....then don't waste your time and money.
 
I do quite a bit of running.......couple of marathons and several halves this year.
Its great to hear that you're taking up such a wonderful sport.
Rather like Mickledore, I'm interested to know what the 'protection' is? Or have you been fitted with risers under your heel to prevent pronation.
My suggestion again would be to go to a proper running shop and get the perfect fit. You shouldn't really need to add that 'protection'
Personally I run in Mizuno's (and after trying several pairs of New Balance and then Asics) I eventually found my perfect shoe. Now I wear about 2 pairs a year of exactly the same model.
No, I don't get blisters, my shoes fit well and I always wear good (and clean i.e. sweaty salt free) socks.
Enjoy your running.

Paul
 
I used to run - a lot. Anything up to 100 miles in a race, and always over the hills and mountains. My preferred distance was 50/60 miles and I regularly won races at those distances. Trained anything up to 100 miles per week. Think I've done a bit of running in the past! Only stopped when the discs in my back got knackered with the pounding, but still hold some records from 30 years ago.

That is seriously impressive! :thumbs: I'll be keeping an eye on this thread as I want to start up some proper running in the new year.
 
Cheers, the protection is just a small raised bit on the instep, most trainers contour anyway. The right is fine, and wearing running socks though they are thin. WIll try tomorrow with extra socks and tighten up the shoe a bit more.
 
i'm another one who used to run a lot - half marathon, full marathon, iron man all that stuff - me and my mate jamie tried to break the welsh 3000s record a few years back (which at the time had stood at a tad over 8 hours since the 30s)- we didnt break it but came close (its since been smashed by a fell runner who did it in about 4.5.)

however while training for the grizly run last year i had a bad fall and stuffed up the ligaments on my right ankle - the docs say i can run on it again now( about 12 months later) but it'll never be quite the same again and ive got to take things gradually - I'm up to about 5 miles once a week, (which at one time i used to do everyday before work) but it will be a long time before i can think about racing on it
 
i'm another one who used to run a lot - half marathon, full marathon, iron man all that stuff - me and my mate jamie tried to break the welsh 3000s record a few years back (which at the time had stood at a tad over 8 hours since the 30s)- we didnt break it but came close (its since been smashed by a fell runner who did it in about 4.5.)

That Welsh run will be Colin Donnelly who did it in 4.19.
The most eye boggling run over there was John Wagstaffe's triple crossing in 22hrs 49 mins. Mind you he was always a bit "odd", rumour has it that he's gone a bit loopy nowadays. He slept in his car at events - on a decorators paste table that he had replaced the passenger seat with!!

Edit...just re-read BSM' post. We did it in the mid 1980's and our time was 6.12. We thought the record was well below that, and didn't seriously try to beat it. We just did it as a training run!!!
 
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Edit...just re-read BSM' post. We did it in the mid 1980's and our time was 6.12. We thought the record was well below that, and didn't seriously try to beat it. We just did it as a training run!!!

Turns out i was wrong - i was reffering to thomas firbanks record of 8 hours 25 , however until you pointed that out I hadnt realise that hadnt stood

turns out that it was broken several times in the 50s coming down to 6 hours exactly , and then knocked down to 4 hours 46 by Chris Brasher and John Cleare in 1973

this was then broken by Colin Donelly in 1988 setting the 4 hours 19 record which still stands today

I thnk what confused me was that the ful winter record still stands at 8.29 (Paul Lubbock 1978) - but you've got to be a little bit nuts to try to break that one.

The whole thing may be up for grabs again shortly as modern surveying methods have recently identified a new 3000 peak (Castell y Gwynt in the glyders) bringing the total to 16 .

unfortunately my knackered ankle will preclude any attempt on that anytime soon.
 
Of course the silly thing about that route is that it starts and finishes on the summits of Snowdon and Foel Fras. That means you've got to do the extra distance at start and end. Only the Welsh could contrive a route like that!

Castell y Gwynt isn't really much of a detour, but those on a schedule just wouldn't take it in as it might destroy their final time.
 
Cambsno.....how did the run go today?
Any re occurrence of the blisters?
Thinking about it today, it may not have been the shoes or socks, just your feet getting used to something that they find quite alien!!!!!!!
 
The blistering in your arch is due to the heat caused by excessive friction. If you have a foot that is pronating excessively simply propping up the arch is not a solution.
In fact a solution may not be required, if you can run in normal running shoes without modification and without pain then..........if it ain't broke then don't fix it.

I've spent the best part of 30 years working with runners and their problems and began to see real problems when sports shops began installing diagnostic machinery and putting their staff on weekend courses in running biomechanics.
 
Cambsno.....how did the run go today?
Any re occurrence of the blisters?
Thinking about it today, it may not have been the shoes or socks, just your feet getting used to something that they find quite alien!!!!!!!

Well, my previous best was 1.7m, did 2m tonight in 1 go (ok, not that impressive for most but for me thats good having only started a few weeks ago)!!! Not the hint of a blister. Wore the running socks and some trainer socks over the top, and did the trainers up tight. So either shoe was a bit loose and/or the sock was too thin.
 
Another keen runner here. :wave:
Well, I was until two weeks ago when I broke my ankle....taking photos...at the Parkrun! :bang:
Was just getting back on form too, a 1:22 half marathon one weekend and an ambulance ride the following one. :'(
I sometimes get a blister on my right instep. Choice of socks can definitely help, some have extra padding in key areas.
Good luck with it, keep us posted as to how you get on. :thumbs:
 
after reading all the previous posts ,i think i'd go out and buy a bike :)
 
Another runner here, not a fantasic athlete but I'v been at it on and off for 10 years to keep generally fit.

I'm sure the running socks I have are 2 layers, effectivly 2 pairs of thin socks so that they run against each other, not against your foot.
 
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