Any Love for APS out there?

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Just back from my mum's and after rummage through some old cameras I found a Canon Ixus L1 APS camera.
What a cool little thing. If it still works (waiting on new battery) I think I might buy some rolls and shot with it. I'm guessing no one is making new stock of APS film?

Anyone else still shooting an APS camera
 
Just back from my mum's and after rummage through some old cameras I found a Canon Ixus L1 APS camera.
What a cool little thing. If it still works (waiting on new battery) I think I might buy some rolls and shot with it. I'm guessing no one is making new stock of APS film?

Anyone else still shooting an APS camera
As far as I know APS isn't in production any more but there's still a fair bit of film out there on the well known auction site and Analogue Wonderland have it occasionally.
 
I've just been given 3 point & shoots, nothing fancy. One of them is an APS. Never used one when when they were current so won't be starting now especially as any film around is expired.
 
I still have a Minolta Vectis SLR. It's a nice camera, but let down by the APS format itself. The negatives are smaller than 35mm, but get blown up into strange ratios so the prints are less than stellar. Think the lowest iso I used was 400 though, so fairly grainy.
 
I had an Ixus as well and I loved APS. For what it was and as a fun camera I thought it was revolutionary.

Ok I mean technically it's not on par with a 35mm, but it wasn't supposed to be it was a very different use camera.
 
Any love for APS? erm NO o_O:D
Indeed no love here for it either - as a format it arrived as I was looking at getting my first "serious" P&S camera (Olympus mju) and given the film cost more than 35mm 36exp despite being 25exp - I was out. Just like I was with the Kodak disc. Now what was that all about?
 
Plenty of APS film available online - mostly expired - but that's all part of the fun - go buy a couple of rolls and see how you get on.
 
I had a Minolta Vectis. I was surprised to be allowed to use it on a serving nuclear sub, where I was entertained by the captain. And afterwards on a MoD police launch round Devonport dockyard. I was impressed by the camera at the time, but looking back at the results they were meh compared with 35mm cameras of the time.
 
IIRC my Grandfather had an APS SLR - IIRC (again!) it was a Nikon.

Wasn't the APS system also partly responsible for the finer grained faster films that came along - to compensate for the smaller negatives' greater magnification to a given print size.
 
I had a few APS point and shoots back in the day and i quite liked them.
 
Here's the thing, a good 35mm image will look better than a good APS one but the same could be said for 6x6 Vs 35mm. 35mm has a problem though, poor 35mm images don't come out at all! So many images are lost because the film was put in wrong and didn't advance or the camera back was opened half way through fogging the photos and lastly my personal favourite putting the same film in the camera twice. So many lost photos and family memories. APS avoids all of this, so a good or even poor APS photo will outshine any of the millions of lost 35mm photos. Sure if you are a keen or pro photographer 35mm or 6x6 (or bigger even) is the way to go. But for someone's family snaps APS was way more reliable.

Then there were technical advantages. APS records exposure data on a magnetic track on the edge which the printing machine can use to better match the printing exposure. It was also possible to pre order extra prints when you took a photo (sadly this was mostly turned off a few days after the first APS went through the lab as users wouldn't read the instructions and inadvertently order 99 reprints of every frame and got quite cross when presented with a d and p bill of £300 or similar).

Talking of reprints, enlargements etc the negatives (or slides) came back safely in the film cassette with an index print (like a miniature contact print) which was cross referenced to the cassette with easy to see images and frame numbers. What's not to like with that?

Kodak, who largely invented it, caused a lot of the negative publicity by makeing a million models of crapulent plastic cameras and rushing to sell product before the infrastructure and their fellow APS manufacturers were in place to Handel it.

Speaking of cassette formats being more reliable than 35mm why did 126 die out? You have all the same safe handling and reliability of a cassette format with a larger film format quality (28mm square against 24mm on 35mm in the vertical format. Plus it's square which just looks better and avoids having to choose and latter display a mix of portrait and landscape images).

APS came out just as home pc computers were starting to become a thing. There was a lot of innovation in APS like a photo player to show your Holliday snaps to all your neighbors on a TV set at the same time instead of passing around prints. There was a film scanner as well but it was all too late. Digital was just on the horizon and arrived before a new film format could get established. Had it arrived 10 years earlier it could have made it.
 
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I think 126 had the problem of the film not being pressed on the focal plane accurately or consistently.
 
Here's the thing, a good 35mm image will look better than a good APS one but the same could be said for 6x6 Vs 35mm. 35mm has a problem though, poor 35mm images don't come out at all! So many images are lost because the film was put in wrong and didn't advance or the camera back was opened half way through fogging the photos and lastly my personal favourite putting the same film in the camera twice. So many lost photos and family memories. APS avoids all of this, so a good or even poor APS photo will outshine any of the millions of lost 35mm photos. Sure if you are a keen or pro photographer 35mm or 6x6 (or bigger even) is the way to go. But for someone's family snaps APS was way more reliable.

Then there were technical advantages. APS records exposure data on a magnetic track on the edge which the printing machine can use to better match the printing exposure. It was also possible to pre order extra prints when you took a photo (sadly this was mostly turned off a few days after the first APS went through the lab as users wouldn't read the instructions and inadvertently order 99 reprints of every frame and got quite cross when presented with a d and p bill of £300 or similar).

Talking of reprints, enlargements etc the negatives (or slides) came back safely in the film cassette with an index print (like a miniature contact print) which was cross referenced to the cassette with easy to see images and frame numbers. What's not to like with that?

Kodak, who largely invented it, caused a lot of the negative publicity by makeing a million models of crapulent plastic cameras and rushing to sell product before the infrastructure and their fellow APS manufacturers were in place to Handel it.

Speaking of cassette formats being more reliable than 35mm why did 126 die out? You have all the same safe handling and reliability of a cassette format with a larger film format quality (28mm square against 24mm on 35mm in the vertical format. Plus it's square which just looks better and avoids having to choose and latter display a mix of portrait and landscape images).

APS came out just as home pc computers were starting to become a thing. There was a lot of innovation in APS like a photo player to show your Holliday snaps to all your neighbors on a TV set at the same time instead of passing around prints. There was a film scanner as well but it was all too late. Digital was just on the horizon and arrived before a new film format could get established. Had it arrived 10 years earlier it could have made it.

h'mm maybe the thread title should have been:-
Was there any Love for APS out there? ;)
 
Yes, yes there is, or was and still. Wait what was the question?

Well just an observation, I suppose someone is still using and has a love for obsolete film formats, but with common film (35mm, 120 etc) cameras going cheap compared to the past why bother.
erm what about "any love for flare trousers out there" :eek::D
 
Well just an observation, I suppose someone is still using and has a love for obsolete film formats, but with common film (35mm, 120 etc) cameras going cheap compared to the past why bother.
erm what about "any love for flare trousers out there" :eek::D


Oh Brian you are so behind the times, flares are back along with 70s porn star moustaches :D
 
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Speaking of cassette formats being more reliable than 35mm why did 126 die out? You have all the same safe handling and reliability of a cassette format with a larger film format quality (28mm square against 24mm on 35mm in the vertical format. Plus it's square which just looks better and avoids having to choose and latter display .

It's a mystery to me as to why the Lomo Lot haven't attempted a 126 revival.
There's plenty of crappy 126 cameras out there (and a few half decent ones) but no film - ideal Lomo territory I'd have thought.
They had a half-hearted attempt with 110 - complete with backing paper with holes, so why not 126 which would seem to be a lot less problematic?
 
Well just an observation, I suppose someone is still using and has a love for obsolete film formats, but with common film (35mm, 120 etc) cameras going cheap compared to the past why bother.
erm what about "any love for flare trousers out there" :eek::D

Ease of loading; ease of changing rolls half way through; storage of negatives in a hard case, reducing damage possibilities; flares are apparently back "in".
 
Ease of loading; ease of changing rolls half way through; storage of negatives in a hard case, reducing damage possibilities; flares are apparently back "in".

That's it... guys sell all your 35mm, MF and LF gear and go APS you know it makes sense o_O:D
Flares? been there done it and let you younguns enjoy :LOL:
 
It's a mystery to me as to why the Lomo Lot haven't attempted a 126 revival.
There's plenty of crappy 126 cameras out there (and a few half decent ones) but no film - ideal Lomo territory I'd have thought.
They had a half-hearted attempt with 110 - complete with backing paper with holes, so why not 126 which would seem to be a lot less problematic?
There is the Fakmatic adapter. A 3D printed adapter to put 35mm film in a 126 camera. Others are just jamming 35mm film in. I have a couple of Kodak instamatics but I also have a Rollelflex SL26 which is a well made 126 SLR camera so I'll have to pick a Fakmatic up to try.
This is an APS thread however and do have a film right now in my Minolta S1. Still works perfectly and cost my nuppence on the 'bay.
 
go APS you know it makes sense o_O:D


It does - or did - for some people. My MiL for example would mess up loading 35mm about 50% of the time but was perfectly able to drop an APS can into her camera every time.
 
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