Any Cymraeg speakers among us?

Oes tad, a da iawn chdi am ddysgu. Paid a talu llawer o sylw i sut dwi'n siarad, dwi'm yn mynd i mewn i'r holl fusnes iaith ffurfiol fel sy'n cael ei ddysgu ar cyrsiau, nac ydw yn siarad y rwtch maen'n nhw'n galw yn Gymraeg yn y De!
 
Yves Geza said:
So allow 'em three or four days and they should find this thread! :whistle:
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Well, i've been a postie for the last 5 months and .... oh sorry, wrong thread
 
You dork!:p

I got the alert and I wondered why I'd been quoted in a thread where I hadn't posted :LOL::LOL::LOL:
 
I intended to learn it but haven't got very far.
 
Alan Clogwyn said:
Oes tad, a da iawn chdi am ddysgu. Paid a talu llawer o sylw i sut dwi'n siarad, dwi'm yn mynd i mewn i'r holl fusnes iaith ffurfiol fel sy'n cael ei ddysgu ar cyrsiau, nac ydw yn siarad y rwtch maen'n nhw'n galw yn Gymraeg yn y De!
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I won't bother to respond yn Gymraeg, I'm not that good! It's nice to know I can make sense with it now (to some extent) - it shows that I'm learning... I actually decided to pick up the language as I looked at joining the Heddlu Gogledd Cymru up here in N.Wales and they expect a certain level of proficiency, so we will see how that goes! :p
 
Cymro yma.

I always find myself at the end of jibes about my own language, and put up with complete ignorance. 'Made up language' I hear -been around longer than a certain low Saxon dialect...:exit:
 
i went to Bangor on monday, first time i had been to North Wales,(very nice it was too) and found every sign(EVERY sign) in both Welsh and English. Have the amount of Welsh speakers increased since the signs have gone up? i was told by the friendly hotel lady that its less than 20% of the population that speak Welsh, but she didnt know if the quantity is increasing or not
 
The north and south are english first, the middle is welsh first. All the lessons in every school in central wales are in Welsh. In the North and South Welsh is taught in a similar way to other languages, but it must be taught.
 
i see, so theoretically the numbers who can speak their native tongue will increase. I'll be back in Bangor a few times over the coming months, cant wait to see the area in the summer!
 
It should definitely be on the increase but may take a generation to take effect and there also needs to be a preference for the Welsh language socially in the younger generations.
 
Dale_tem said:
The north and south are english first, the middle is welsh first. All the lessons in every school in central wales are in Welsh. In the North and South Welsh is taught in a similar way to other languages, but it must be taught.
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Sorry, but that's incorrect. I live in Bangor, N.Wales and can categorically say that in the North EVERYTHING is Welsh first. It's the done thing. I work for the University in Bangor and one can be reprimanded for not having emails and correspondence translated before sending/publishing! 86% of people living in Gwynedd (my county) speak Welsh and over half of those consider Welsh as their first language.

[EDIT] Also, with regards to Welsh speaking schools, the highest concentration of them are within the Mid and North areas but there are plenty of English only schools as well. It's at parents discretion.
 
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matty said:
i see, so theoretically the numbers who can speak their native tongue will increase. I'll be back in Bangor a few times over the coming months, cant wait to see the area in the summer!
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The areas surrounding Bangor are beautiful in the summer :) What has brought you to the area?
 
Everything in the North is not Welsh first ;) I work with a lot of educational institutions in both North and South Wales. I have been in many schools with notice boards in 90% english. Perhaps in Gwynedd it is slightly different to Conwy and other areas along the North coast.

The census in 2011 shows a big difference between Gwynedd and Conway....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Welsh_principal_areas_by_percentage_Welsh_language
 
Dale_tem said:
Everything in the North is not Welsh first ;) I work with a lot of educational institutions in both North and South Wales. I have been in many schools with notice boards in 90% english. Perhaps in Gwynedd it is slightly different to Conwy and other areas along the North coast.

The census in 2011 shows a big difference between Gwynedd and Conway....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Welsh_principal_areas_by_percentage_Welsh_language
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Some areas (North Eastern) are lacking in Welsh speakers largely due to influx of migration from Merseyside etc. In terms of concentration of Welsh speakers (or those with knowledge of the language) the North is still well ahead.
 
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Down here in the "deep South", the majority of schools are, not surprisingly, English-speaking - although they all teach Welsh as a (compulsory up to GCSE, I believe) National Curriculum subject.

The road signs in the South-East are bilingual - English first, Welsh second but then, along the M4 corridor, when you get beyond Swansea they reverse, so Welsh first, English second.

All official mail we get is bilingual - I'm not sure of the absolute necessity for this as it clearly costs more than a single-language would, but I do think it's important to encourage the use of the language, even though I'm not a Welsh-speaker..
 
Dale_tem said:
Everything in the North is not Welsh first ;) I work with a lot of educational institutions in both North and South Wales. I have been in many schools with notice boards in 90% english. Perhaps in Gwynedd it is slightly different to Conwy and other areas along the North coast.

The census in 2011 shows a big difference between Gwynedd and Conway....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Welsh_principal_areas_by_percentage_Welsh_language
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Llandudno eastwards and Abersoch maybe, the rest of Gwynedd it's Welsh first, and God help you if you don't speak it! I can't think of a single English medium school I've ever heard of in the North mind, Wrexham possibly? I went to Ysgol Cymerau and Ysgol Glan y Mor in Pwllheli, I only spoke Eglish at home.

BT Bob said:
Down here in the "deep South", the majority of schools are, not surprisingly, English-speaking - although they all teach Welsh as a (compulsory up to GCSE, I believe) National Curriculum subject.

The road signs in the South-East are bilingual - English first, Welsh second but then, along the M4 corridor, when you get beyond Swansea they reverse, so Welsh first, English second.

All official mail we get is bilingual - I'm not sure of the absolute necessity for this as it clearly costs more than a single-language would, but I do think it's important to encourage the use of the language, even though I'm not a Welsh-speaker..
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that gibberish they teach down there ain't proper Welsh :p (actually it's historically more accurate as North Welsh being a language that's actually used daily by people in the real world has evolved).

I can't think where exactly the road signs begin to switch to Welsh first, I'll make a point to look out for this next time I head south!
 
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Alan Clogwyn said:
that gibberish they teach down there ain't proper Welsh :p (actually it's historically more accurate as North Welsh being a language that's actually used daily by people in the real world has evolved).
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You're probably right - like any language taught "theoretically", it's often different from the "spoken" language.

Alan Clogwyn said:
I can't think where exactly the road signs begin to switch to Welsh first, I'll make a point to look out for this next time I head south!
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Not sure about the north-to-south, but (I think) at Swansea it's still English/Welsh and by the time you get to Llanelli it's Welsh/English..

Of course, we down yur all know that all you Goggs live in a different world ;)
 
Eddzz!! said:
The areas surrounding Bangor are beautiful in the summer :) What has brought you to the area?
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interestingly enough...the nice new uni that is being built!
 
Pontio site, havent seen anything on the new one yet, hoping its the same architects that are doing it
 
matty said:
Pontio site, havent seen anything on the new one yet, hoping its the same architects that are doing it
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Quite possibly. The university are currently in the process of knocking down several sites with plans to rebuild them. There is a new student village planned that seems to have taken inspiration from the architecture of the Pontio building.
 
The language was close to dying out completely and was basically just spoken by a few rural people.
Then the English decided to appoint a Prince to rule over us and everything changed for the better :)

Not that I speak a word of it myself, but it still gives me a patriotic feeling to hear it.
 
North Wales I thought was definitely Welsh first and fiercely proud of it. Don't let Meibion Glyndwr hear you suggest English first.
 
I don't really speak it apart from knowing the odd word or phrase, but I can usually pick up on enough when other people are speaking to get the gist of what they're talking about.
Most Welsh speakers I know tend to sort of slip in and out between Welsh and English during the course of a conversation anyway.

Always a bit of a controversial topic at home as to whether Newport is really Welsh or still English . . . my dad insists it's the latter :LOL:
 
It always makes me smile driving up the A449 into Monmouth, the tunnel just before the town has English and Welsh warning signs.................Tunnel and Tunel................:)
 
fracster said:
It always makes me smile driving up the A449 into Monmouth, the tunnel just before the town has English and Welsh warning signs.................Tunnel and Tunel................:)
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Lots of funnies like that.

Just down the road from me is Saint Athan or, in Welsh, Sain Tathan.... :)
 
fracster said:
It always makes me smile driving up the A449 into Monmouth, the tunnel just before the town has English and Welsh warning signs.................Tunnel and Tunel................:)
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should be Twnel... but that's South Wales for you.

Vale of Clwyd is mixture of Welsh/English, that' due to being so close to Liverpool, which has a rich Welsh heritage
 
I live on Anglesey and it's most definitely Welsh first here, I know very few people who can't speak it, some of my English lessons at school were even somehow taught in Welsh
 
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