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Says the man who works for the company that produced the Sierra, Scorpio and Ka... ;)
 
No but they all fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on their way down!
 
Thanks for linking to an article which requires the reader to click and and answer a question in order to actually ready anything other than the headline.
 
viv1969 said:
Thanks for linking to an article which requires the reader to click and and answer a question in order to actually ready anything other than the headline.
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Not for me, goes straight to the article
 
nilagin said:
I don't see ugly.







Now I see ugly

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I see ugly here
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You were saying?

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TBH if I needed that kind of transport then I'd take a Multipla over a Sierra - at least it's interesting.
 
What can I say?
I get a notice.

 
can't say i have ever seen a decent vauxhaul they are truly an awfull brand the zivura and the s***smearer just set them on fire quickly.
 
Went straight to article for me the first time. The second time I got the question, but I clicked skip survey, and the article came back :D
 
nope
bring on the napalm
make the dispear
 
Anyway, I never actually said that the Vauxhall Adam was an ugly car, just that I felt it took it's styling from a Little Tikes Cozy Coupe. But more importantly was the fact that the cars were being recalled because the roof could fall off. I wonder how many have actually fallen off, don't fancy following one of them down the motorway and what could effectively be a guillotine blade come flying towards you.
 
ancient_mariner said:
You were saying?

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TBH if I needed that kind of transport then I'd take a Multipla over a Sierra - at least it's interesting.
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what you have to remember is though that the sierra may look ugly today, it was quite a revolutionary shape at its release.
As for the Ka now that is the ugliest Mofu that ever set rubber on tarmac, someone certainly had a sense of humour when they designed that.


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Ah yes the Firenza, the Opal Manta ( potato potato :D ) and of course the HSr Chevette, every school boys ( at the time) dream(s) :thumbs:
 
Had a Firenza for a while. Had been breathed on a bit and was sat on skinny tyres which it would light up at any opportunity! Died after a radiator bracket broke, dropping the top hose onto the fan - the overheating was terminal. Luckily I had only paid £100 for it and it lasted me for 18 months or so. Lovely red oxide primer finish!!!
 
Cobra said:
what you have to remember is though that the sierra may look ugly today, it was quite a revolutionary shape at its release.
As for the Ka now that is the ugliest Mofu that ever set rubber on tarmac, someone certainly had a sense of humour when they designed that.

Ah yes the Firenza, the Opal Manta ( potato potato :D ) and of course the HSr Chevette, every school boys ( at the time) dream(s) (y)
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Interesting how opinions differ - I had to work a little harder to find an obviously ugly picture of a Ka, while for a Sierra it was no effort at all. Yes it was a game-changer, in that the whole world suddenly started making cars that looked like a jelly-mould rabbit, but it was always ugly, and drove like a drunken pig too, especially after a couple of years when the suspension bushes wore a little. At one time I had access to a pool of then current saloon designs - Sierra 1.6L and 2.0 Ghia, Cavalier MkIII 1.6L, Montego 1.6L, Golf 1.6 - and the best drive was, to my complete amazement, the Montego. The cavalier was a quiet, softly sprung cruiser that would be good for longer distances, and the Sierras were just rough to drive and with iffy handling from the 1.6 - maybe it was because they were a bit worn (but all <3 years old)? I can't remember anything about the Golf other than heavy steering when parking.

The Firenza was a nice looking car, but little would make the Shoveit, sorry, Chevette, appealing after driving one and discovering how the front geometry encouraged the front wheels to let go and generate massive understeer. OTOH I had a MkII Cavalier for a while that was a great handling and comfy car, and wasn't horrid in the looks dept.
 
ancient_mariner said:
Interesting how opinions differ - I had to work a little harder to find an obviously ugly picture of a Ka, while for a Sierra it was no effort at all. Yes it was a game-changer, in that the whole world suddenly started making cars that looked like a jelly-mould rabbit, but it was always ugly, and drove like a drunken pig too, especially after a couple of years when the suspension bushes wore a little. At one time I had access to a pool of then current saloon designs - Sierra 1.6L and 2.0 Ghia, Cavalier MkIII 1.6L, Montego 1.6L, Golf 1.6 - and the best drive was, to my complete amazement, the Montego. The cavalier was a quiet, softly sprung cruiser that would be good for longer distances, and the Sierras were just rough to drive and with iffy handling from the 1.6 - maybe it was because they were a bit worn (but all <3 years old)? I can't remember anything about the Golf other than heavy steering when parking.
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I drove a Sierra 1.6 L Estate quite a few times when I was an apprentice. The car was 1yr old and handled very well. There are some very entertaining country roads between Ford's old Aveley Pilot plant and Dagenham and as an 19yr old to be let loose in a year old car in 1983, let's just say I didn't hang about.
Vauxhalls however have never had a reputation for being good handling cars.
 
Quite enjoyed Mrs Nod's old 2 litre Sierra. The best thing about it was that while I was in it, I didn't have to look at it! Went quite well too.
 
ancient_mariner said:
in that the whole world suddenly started making cars that looked like a jelly-mould rabbit,
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I think the Morris Minor was the first one dubbed as a "Jelly Mould"?
But yes as I said above it was a trend setter.. But I'm not sure if that was for better or worse?


I had a 2L something or other Seirra estate for a while, masses of room, and drove OK and I did "push it" from time to time ;)
I prefered the look of the estate over the early hatch ones, although the XR 4x4 was quite nice too :)
 
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Perhaps it was because it had been a pool repcan, but I'd have placed the handling of that 1.6L as borderline dangerous: it would bounce unpredictably away from direction of travel after going over a bump. The 2 litre jobbie was less bad, but just felt rough to drive and behaved badly, failing to tick over properly, and that had been a personal company car just added to the pool for the last 6 months while they had a new one.

IME ordinary Vauxhalls tend to be squashy and rubbery with slightly soft suspension, though the MkII cavaliers seemed to be an exception to that, and handled surprisingly well to the point where I felt confident to drift mine a little. OTOH my brother had a Shoveit for several years, and it was him that coined the name AFAIK - I borrowed one from a garage as a courtesy car, and found the over-centre effect on the steering where cornering hard made one inclined not to corner hard. The last Vauxhall I drove - a Zafira - was really good as boring transport, and would eat motorway miles while leaving the driver relaxed and at ease.
 
Mr Bump said:
can't say i have ever seen a decent vauxhaul they are truly an awfull brand the zivura and the s***smearer just set them on fire quickly.
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Manta 400 . Yes it's nominally an Opel rather than a Vauxhall, but that's like saying an Austin is different from a Morris.
 
On topic, I've never owned a Vauxhall (5 of them) that didn't have dicky wiring - the most noteworthy perhaps being the Cavalier that caught fire whilst we were acting as Road Rally Safety Car in it at the time and going flat out wrong direction to make it to our last posting before course opebed. The others were all mildly inconvenient (and baffling) faults.
 
Driven an array of Vauxhalls in my life....
mk3 cavalier 2.0
Vectra 2.0
Astra GTC 1.4 turbo
Astra 1.6 CDTI
Insignia 1.8 petrol and 2.0 CDTI

and have found them all pleasant to drive. The only one that i didnt overly enjoy was the 1.8 insignia which has an engine that doesnt quite suit the weight of the car making it a bit gutless.

The thing with cars is they all have their faults no matter who the manufacturer but most of us show an allegiance do a particular brand so show a softer attitude to faults within that brand.
 
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Cobra said:
I had one of those ( Cavaliers) too :rolleyes:


Well I know of one person here anyway :D
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The one i drove belonged to my old man. It was a Cavalier 2.0 diplomat. Automatic, full leather plus toys.....it used to just waft along in silence.....until the one day when the big end bearings decided to act otherwise through oil starvation.

Would never be able to guess who that is :D
 
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