Another thing I could do with understanding!

Yeah - the Robin lacks a bit of contrast and is pretty noisy. I'd guess it's a huge crop which is impacting the image quality you have left. That said you can only work with the tools you have, so you need longer glass, OR play a game of patience and try to get much closer and fill the frame more.

You have to start somewhere though - it was probably sharp enough, it's just the crop which is killing you. :thumbs:
 
As noted above I've seen the same post on many forums. I think one of the issues is that many people may take photographs but are not photographers (if that makes sense). They don't really know how to critique an image or what a good image is at all!

THey may get upset by someone telling them why and state how their friends and family love it etc etc. They also comment on others images and it's usually positive as they have nothing to be negative about as they don't "see" the image.

I'm not saying I'm a great judge or anything like that but just that many people on the forums are not able to critique or in facty take criticism - especially when auntie Jean says it's the best image she's ever seen!

Does that make sense?

I too want people to tell me what is wrong (or right) with any images I post. It's the only way to make you a better photographer.

When I was a member of a camera club, I learned more in one sitting listening to the judges than I had in the 6 months I'd been using the camera! I began to see whey images worked or didn't.

We all have different views and that's what makes any forum great - you just have to be selective about what you read and not take aunti Jean's word as gospel :)
 
Interesting perspective, Simon, thanks - oh, and by the way, you have completely missed the subtlety of the signature which is a crucial part of social photography.
 
One thing I see time and time again is something that is missing from most replies...!!




IMHO



Without that some people could think peoples comments are what should be...


Imho of course


md
 
straycat said:
nice photo wont help me improve i prefer honesty

have a go at my robin i took today if you like

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I think I'm going to start turning my critiques round and ask why Straycat posted this? Did you like it? What did you like about it? THen I would answer more when giving the response. It helps understand what they see in the image before providing your own thoughts.
 
EdinburghMary sounds good - hope that's not you trying to get me over there Mary - I've heard of guys like you! :naughty:
 
ZoZo said:
Interesting perspective, Simon, thanks - oh, and by the way, you have completely missed the subtlety of the signature which is a crucial part of social photography.
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I get it Zoe - It's actually about "me" isn't it. :thumbs:
 
Are they a funny bunch? :)
Gary I do mean to drop over at some point! Just gettingthe time as Edinburgh is like the other side of the world from Hamilton! :)

Are you going to the Photovision show at Murrayfield?
 
EOS_JD said:
EdinburghMary sounds good - hope that's not you trying to get me over there Mary - I've heard of guys like you! :naughty:
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eos_jd feel free to delete it as I would love the admin to see this


md


" I might have to give coming to see you in april a miss as i fear for my safety"
 
CT said:
Yeah - the Robin lacks a bit of contrast and is pretty noisy. I'd guess it's a huge crop which is impacting the image quality you have left. That said you can only work with the tools you have, so you need longer glass, OR play a game of patience and try to get much closer and fill the frame more.

You have to start somewhere though - it was probably sharp enough, it's just the crop which is killing you. :thumbs:
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thanks heres the original i do shoot jpeg neutral on nikon
its a 70-200 vr with a tcx2 handheld at the end of the day so iso 3200 and slow shutter speed 400 [i had turned vr off,not sure if i should have].
i couldnt move it was a narrow path with barbed wire he only stayed for 6 shots.
i am a bit unsteady so leaned on a post and got caught in the barbed wire,all good fun. :)
he was so round you could of played tennis with him :lol:


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ZoZo said:
Keys to what? I'm after swapping my car for an Audi TT if anyone has one?

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What aboutr a Clio with a leaky roof? :) My Dad needs a new car!
 
EOS_JD said:
What aboutr a Clio with a leaky roof? :) My Dad needs a new car!
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Nah, I guess I'll wait for the next few years (hubby tells me at least 5) until the Audi TT is no longer cool and then I'll get another totally practical uncool car :D
 
ZoZo said:
Interesting perspective, Simon, thanks - oh, and by the way, you have completely missed the subtlety of the signature which is a crucial part of social photography.
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You're welcome Zoe! ;)

I had hoped that you'd understand what I was trying to put across and reply to my post as a whole rather than latching onto one specific point but it did prove something... Your signature is personal to you (in the same way that an image is personal to the photographer) and so you feel a sense of propriety towards it... hence your defensive response to my original comment! :)

I'm not looking to pick a fight with you Zoe; I'm simply stating a differing viewpoint... whilst you may not agree with it; I hoped you'd still understand. You of all people should see that photography is subjective. What one likes, another doesn't and unless you genuinely are looking to make money from it, the normal 'rules' and conventions don't HAVE to apply! :)

Best wishes,
Si
 
Tch, need to teach you about cars girl! The TT is NOT cool, no way, absoluely not, never has been, can't ever be...... just IMO :lol:

as for clios with a leaky roof, absolute PITA, they drip in the camera bag :geek:


edit: unless its white [the audi, not the clio], I am secretly lking them, its embarrassing....:suspect:
 
I am much less experienced than Zoe, but because of her I like to critique. It gets my goat sometimes when people will just say nice pics etc. Look for flaws and tell that person what those flaws are. It may well be a nice pic, but look at how it can be improved. It will help the person to look at their work more closely and be aware that they can improve next time. Also for me it is a learning curve...........I like to give my tuppence worth on an image and see how the OP and others react.....do they agree? Do they disagree? Do they ignore? Or do they say something like "Oh, didn't notice that thanks for pointing that out" Or "you're a complete numpty" Or perhaps something else?
Do find on here sometimes, that comments are ignored and the bandwagon of 'nice pic' continues, but not all of the time ;-)
 
I like the Fiat 500 but I'll not get much in it, and the husband may need to be bent in half to get in! Hehe
 
NigelPaul said:
I am much less experienced than Zoe, but because of her I like to critique. It gets my goat sometimes when people will just say nice pics etc. Look for flaws and tell that person what those flaws are. It may well be a nice pic, but look at how it can be improved. It will help the person to look at their work more closely and be aware that they can improve next time. Also for me it is a learning curve...........I like to give my tuppence worth on an image and see how the OP and others react.....do they agree? Do they disagree? Do they ignore? Or do they say something like "Oh, didn't notice that thanks for pointing that out" Or "you're a complete numpty" Or perhaps something else?
Do find on here sometimes, that comments are ignored and the bandwagon of 'nice pic' continues, but not all of the time ;-)
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Sometimes you can't critique an image
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=208572

Dimitri's work is amazing
 
I love the skyline, Gary, not so sure about that red blob up front though! ;)
 
LOL Always leave the VR on for this sort of shot unless you're using a tripod with the head completely locked off with a remote release or the delayed timer,. in which case there's simply no movement for the VR to detect anyyway.

Converters aren't really at their best behind a zoom lens. Zoom lenses are slightly compromised compared to a prime even before you add the converter. Most zooms produce acceptable results with converters around 1.4X TC but a 2X TC is pushing it a bit as much as we'd like to believe otherwise. A 2X TC also costs you 2 full stops in exposure which is no doubt the reason you ended up shooting at 3200 ISO.

You're having fun anyway by the sound of it. :thumbs:
 
EOS_JD said:
Sometimes you can't critique an image
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=208572

Dimitri's work is amazing
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Well I appreciate your link to Dimitri's pic. Not the sort of picture I would critique on anyway;-) Do I like it? Yes! What I don't like about it? Too much foreground with no interest??? Seriously though, perhaps Zoe should have mentioned that her work is more with portraits, weddings and lifestyle (she will correct me if I'm wrong ;-) ).

But you're right! I can't critique this picture because my genre doesn't include land/seascapes.
 
NigelPaul said:
Well I appreciate your link to Dimitri's pic. Not the sort of picture I would critique on anyway;-) Do I like it? Yes! What I don't like about it? Too much foreground with no interest??? Seriously though, perhaps Zoe should have mentioned that her work is more with portraits, weddings and lifestyle (she will correct me if I'm wrong ;-) ).

But you're right! I can't critique this picture because my genre doesn't include land/seascapes.
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You just did though, valid too :). I feel it's too vast.
 
Cheers Gary,
I remember someone saying if you can't give a critique just say what you like and/or dislike about a picture, there is a difference there, I'm sure ;-)
 
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