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I think the poster who hit 1,000 in this thread can be the referee :evil:
 
dejongj said:
Actually could we make the two top reporters have a mud fight during the June megga meet in Whipsnade? I think that would make for a lovely photography master class
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Just gimme 5 minutes to practice my Krav Maga on em:D
 
dejongj said:
Actually could we make the two top reporters have a mud fight during the June megga meet in Whipsnade? I think that would make for a lovely photography master class
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The thought of that makes me nauseous :lol:
 
Steve Smith said:
Lets see...

Christianity NO
Fox hunting NO
Sunday Lunch NOT REALLY
Freedom of speech DEFINITELY (but common in most countries)
Freedom from oppression AS ABOVE
Equal rights for men and women AS ABOVE
Grouse shooting NO
pheasant shooting NO
voting YES
taxing the rich heniously GOOD IDEA
Speeding and complaining about getting caught NO
voting conservative DEFINITELY NOT

So none of those are really 'British values'.


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Socialist pish
 
dejongj said:
Actually could we make the two top reporters have a mud fight during the June megga meet in Whipsnade? I think that would make for a lovely photography master class
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Now there is a thought :D
 
ST4 said:
Inverted snobbery.

Imagine if you replace the phrase upper class with Muslim and chasing foxes with holding onto the bottom of lorries?
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Congratulations, Steve. Youve proved me wrong again.
 
Steve Smith said:
Preferable to fascist pish.


Steve.
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That's what all the lefties do is claim that anything that's slightly less than totally open borders is, fascism. It's boring or by somehow wanting to ensure your countries traditions are upheld is somehow racism as I'm not wanting to bend over backwards to accommodate foreign ones
 
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fracster said:
I think that the admin type guys should post a table of who reports the most posts, then we all know the prime, spineless t*ss*rs on here.
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Or the ones who get up early to the Viagra (or whatever else) spam posts :(
 
Steve Smith said:
I think it's funny when people call you a socialist as if it's some sort of insult. It isn't.

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My favourite insult is 'Champagne Socialist' which I guess is the polar opposite of a working class Tory.

Apparently it's wrong for people who 'have' to believe that the 'have nots' should be given a chance in life.

But it's OK for the 'I've pulled myself up by my bootstraps' (with free education and healthcare) to decide that others aren't worthy of that support, because giving them those crutches will make them dependant on the state. :thinking:
 
ST4 said:
That is just fascile. Britain has been more or less as it has been for two thousand years.
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That's it. I've had enough.

I have seen the light and will, tomorrow, take all my history books to the tip. They are clearly nonsense.

Probably all written by leftie, pinko, hippy bastards.

Thing is though, I don't shoot things, nor am I Christian and I don't eat roast beef and Yorkshire puds on a Sunday.

OMG - I think I might be foreign.

The shame!
 
ST4 said:
That's what all the lefties do is claim that anything that's slightly less than totally open borders is, fascism. It's boring or by somehow wanting to ensure your countries traditions are upheld is somehow racism as I'm not wanting to bend over backwards to accommodate foreign ones
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Your life would be enriched if you learned to love the ways and traditions of other nations. Your closed-minded attitude won't do anything to bring tolerance and peace to society. I am constantly amazed at how scared some British people are of those from other countries.
 
Ricardodaforce said:
Your life would be enriched if you learned to love the ways and traditions of other nations. Your closed-minded attitude won't do anything to bring tolerance and peace to society. I am constantly amazed at how scared some British people are of those from other countries.
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I do, tell that to those who come here and try and change the ways here. You know the jihadist sort
 
ST4 said:
Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money to spend...
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Whose money do your conservative friends in office spend then? It all comes from the same place regardless of ruling party or political persuasion.

ST4 said:
I do, tell that to those who come here and try and change the ways here. You know the jihadist sort
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Have you actually told that to any jihadist sorts?

simon ess said:
Thing is though, I don't shoot things, nor am I Christian and I don't eat roast beef and Yorkshire puds on a Sunday.
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I ate a curry once. I am going to deport myself tomorrow.


Steve.
 
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I think that whilst we're revering the late Mrs Thatcher, we should spare a thought for her attitude to these Jihadists.

I mean, strong leader and all that, I bet she would have sorted them...

Again, some people need to study history beyond believing that it's a black and white issue where 'we' are always the good guys.
 
Phil V said:
I mean, strong leader and all that, I bet she would have sorted them...
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well yes - although it was a thatcher policy to aid sadam hussein as a bastion against islamic extremism (during the iran/iraq war) - this led to SAS training the republican guard special forces units amonst other things... whilst conveniently turning a blind eye to his liberal use of nerve gas and napalm . That didnt work out so well

It was also a thatcher policy to arm and train the Muj in afghanistan, as a bastion against communism -that worked out even less well.
 
ST4 said:
Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money to spend...
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The difference between right and left isn't about how much is spent, or who's it is, it's about what it's spent on.

We couldn't afford to subsidise mines or steelworks, but we happily subsidise banks, arms manufacturers and farmers.

When I say 'we' I mean someone's spending my money so that rich people don't have to acknowledge they're supposed to be subject to a free market.
 
big soft moose said:
well yes - although it was a thatcher policy to aid sadam hussein as a bastion against islamic extremism (during the iran/iraq war) - this led to SAS training the republican guard special forces units amonst other things... whilst conveniently turning a blind eye to his liberal use of nerve gas and napalm . That didnt work out so well

It was also a thatcher policy to arm and train the Muj in afghanistan, as a bastion against communism -that worked out even less well.
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I thought you might have guessed I knew the answer when I posed the question...
 
I agree about banks and arms - but farm subsidy is largely an EU thing and a complete joke. Most of the farmers i know arent remotely rich either
 
Phil V said:
I thought you might have guessed I knew the answer when I posed the question...
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I did - the post above was more to educate those who get all their info from the 'heil ' and worship saint Margaret of Grantham
 
big soft moose said:
I agree about banks and arms - but farm subsidy is largely an EU thing and a complete joke. Most of the farmers i know arent remotely rich either
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'Most' farmers might not be rich, but some of the richest people in the country make a huge amount of money from farm subsidies. If your business is big enough, you can tailor it to the requirements to make maximum advantage of the system.
 
you can but 60 quid a hecatare (which is about what SPS is) isnt going to make anyone rich - and the new stewardship scheme is very diffucult to get into unless you happen to own a SSSI
 
Cobra said:
It would be better if he were the target :p
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Do you want me to try and outrun the dogs in my Lycra (think Mr motivator) outfit?
 
simon ess said:
You might want to acknowledge that as a Thatcher quote Steve.
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It is. The finest prime minster we've ever had after Churchill.

Here's one of mine "damned pesky native British people, how dare they have the audacity to exist in their own country and uphold their traditions when they have the chance to become Muslims"

It's what I sense here...
 
What was that film?

Fear and loathing in....somewhere or other.

I guess you can add location of your choice.
 
ST4 said:
It is. The finest prime minster we've ever had after Churchill.

Here's one of mine "damned pesky native British people, how dare they have the audacity to exist in their own country and uphold their traditions when they have the chance to become Muslims"

It's what I sense here...
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So you're ok with her relationship with Muslim terrorist groups?
 
neil_g said:
It's not banned though is it, just that they don't offer it. There's no point it being out if it's just going to spoil and end up in the bin.
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You're right, it wasn't actually banned.
They removed pork from 200 branches to please Muslims is what the article stated, so we could assume then that there had been complaints about them selling pork. Why not sell pork and halal and keep everyone happy?
 
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Bobsyeruncle said:
Why not sell pork and halal and keep everyone happy?
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Because they couldn't sell enough of the pork, as their local customer based preferred not to buy it?
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
You're right, it wasn't actually banned.
They removed pork from 200 branches to please Muslims is what the article stated, so we could assume then that there had been complaints about them selling pork. Why not sell pork and halal and keep everyone happy?
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Muslim staff cannot work with Pork...yet apply for jobs in places that sell it, then cry like babies when they have to interact with it.

Same with when they apply for jobs where alcohol handling is involved, they know the store handles it, yet proclaim unfair dismissal/discrimination when they cannot do their job due to their religion, or the company has to find them alternative duties to fit around their religion.

If their religion blocks them from joining into our society, why on earth come here and remain here.
 
ST4 said:
She wouldn't have them now. In that time, us and our Neighbouring countries weren't seeing Muslim terrorist groups do their worst here.
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You know, if you put away your preconceptions for a while, and read the history, you might get an insight into this.

Was Thatcher really such a great leader if she didn't think through 'cause and effect'.

It's easy to think of people as 'apologists' or allowing the making of excuses, but you see recent UK history as if it's the historical status quo, and the future as a bleak place that can only be worse than now. What should be an obvious truth is that there's no status quo, and that events are shaped by people reacting in relatively predictable ways.

If we interfere in foreign countries there will be consequences. If we train terrorists to fight our enemies, how can we be sure one day they won't be our enemies too? Most people don't get the simple 'the enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your ally' despite constant reminders from history.

It's why all the people you disagree with keep pointing to the past with relevant facts, but all you are concerned about is an imagined apocalyptic Islamified future. The clues to the future can be found in the past, you just have to stop your fears clouding your brain and find them.

Negotiating with terrorists is just what you have to do. There might be a macho b******t Hollywood line that looks cool, or a hand wringing 'it's impossible to negotiate with these people'. But the truth is that it's the only solution.
 
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