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Rapscallion said:
So you do accept that you have made allegations that are totally unsubstantiated?
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No I don't. What I said was it was inferred that's what they were but I stated I had no reason to disbelieve the people who I'd spoken to and to get the actual finer details you'd have to speak to them. Somebody (several people) told me stuff I had no reason the disbelieve, I relayed that on here and that's that.
 
fabs said:
I didn't demand anything, I just asked for clarification of the no-go areas as I live close to them.

And lose the aggression!
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Aggression? I'm not being aggressive at all and it's unfortunate if that's your perception but if in a debate I'm going to state my point (within Fourum rules) as best I can if that upsets or annoys folk that's too bad but that's not my inetntion. I sometimes wonder if people would react differently if my avatar and signature were pink and fluffy.
 
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Nikon_Nick said:
But this isnt what was being discussed. You are now talking about someone tgat moved here as a child. Im assuming they are happy living a 'British' life? The debate, was about people born here...not about people born elsewhere then moving here.
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People that are born here are planning to destroy us. That's treason. Simple enough. Innit. My point is it matters not one jot where someone was born, its who/what they identify with that really matters.
 
BRASH said:
No I don't. What I said was it was inferred that's what they were but I stated I had no reason to disbelieve the people who I'd spoken to and to get the actual finer details you'd have to speak to them. Somebody (several people) told me stuff I had no reason the disbelieve, I relayed that on here and that's that.
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But your allegations were not supported by an evidence whatsoever, i.e. unsubstantiated. And it wasn't inferred, you stated outright:-

but in addition there ARE areas 'unofficially' operating their form of Sharia law as well as 'no go' areas for non muslims.
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viv1969 said:
Counting down.........
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Unfortunately no discussion can be had with those kind of tit for tat posts and personal one liners.

Three, two ....
 
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Rapscallion said:
But your allegations were not supported by an evidence whatsoever, i.e. unsubstantiated. And it wasn't inferred, you stated outright:-
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My view is they would be supported by the evidence of the folk I spoke to hence they would have to be listened to. They are not on here but I will be seeing some of them in a couple of months time and will ask them specifics, if the individual incidents were repoted to the authorities, what action was taken and what the outcome was if that will clarify things.
 
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viv1969 said:
Counting down.........
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Counting down, how do you do that? I can only count up..........................but hey, I'm thick (or am I angry ..................................or white.....................or both ................................or all four I'm all confused now!!).:confused:
 
BRASH said:
Counting down, how do you do that? I can only count up..........................but hey, I'm thick (or am I angry ..................................or white.....................or both ................................or all four I'm all confused now!!).:confused:
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I can go one better.....I can recite the aphabet backwards too :p:p
 
Panorama - Secrets of Britain's Sharia Councils on youtube is worth watching if you want to see the advice being given. An undercover reporter goes and asks advice and it seems to blame the women for being hit and they are being warned off from contacting the police.
 
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BRASH said:
My view is they would be supported by the evidence of the folk I spoke to hence they would have to be listened to. They are not on here but I will be seeing some of them in a couple of months time and will ask them specifics, if the individual incidents were repoted to the authorities, what action was taken and what the outcome was if that will clarify things.
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Fair enough. But you do understand that to the doubters that amounts to no evidence at all?

Also, recently there has been a bit of a hoohaa with a 'terrorist expert' on fox news making similar identical allegations (in that case he stated that Birmingham is a no go zone and governed by Sharia law). That statement was widely mocked and shown to be a load of make believe.

I would suggest that if there were any part of the uk that was a no go zone or under Sharia Law, the chaps at the BNP or the EDL would very quickly point out these examples. Instead, silence, nothing from any of the Islam critics. How can you explain this? To me this can only mean one thing, that all the talk of no go zones is nothing but rubbish.
 
and for those that haven't yet seen the original interview I was referring to, take a look at this:-

 
ST4 said:
Shocker, many areas of Britain are now no longer British but islamified, and they'll spread and spread...
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fabs said:
Which areas are "islamified"? Do you mean areas where muslims live?
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ST4 said:
There is none so blind that cannot see. Sorry chap, it is and it is foreseeable what will happen if we lie back and do nothing.
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Where then Steve - please tell us exactly where these areas are.
 
Cobra said:
Especially with the Morris dancing you agreed to lead Huge :thumbs:
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Oh did you have to light that fire. Next the PC brigade will get offended when those Morris dancers dirty their faces. Apparently some misguided souls think that is racist as well. Although, one could argue that the tax collectors are a different race :p
 
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boyfalldown said:
don't forget you said you'd give me lessons before the day so I don't look silly
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I was going to keep that quiet so you would look good on the day :thumbs:
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dejongj said:
Although, one could argue that the tax collectors are a different race :p
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I don't think anyone would argue against that :D
 
Tomorrow night - foreigners from another country will be making a racket with their weird musical instruments, eating their weird food prepared to local customs, which they'll religiously chant over before attacking it violently with a knife, trenching its gushing entrails.

I do hope Steve will be protesting against these strange foreign customs
 
And remember you can't be a Morris dancer if you've been circumcised.






You have to be a complete cock. :coat:
 
Erm
there seems to be far too many Morris dancer-ist comments creeping in to this thread.
Minority groups have a right to be heard too you know.................

But who the hell is gonna (be brave enough to ) stand up and be counted ? :D
 
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Tongue in cheek comment to lighten the mood:D

Yeh, I know. It was geting a bit messy. I'm always up for a wee bit of self depricating humour. If yeh dish it out you gotta be able to take it but dont expect me to do so quietly:D
 
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dejongj said:
Next the PC brigade will get offended when those Morris dancers dirty their faces. Apparently some misguided souls think that is racist as well.
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They would be incensed by our lot down here then - red and black faces!

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And I'm sure some of them aren't even men!


Steve,
 
BRASH said:
Tongue in cheek comment to lighten the mood:D

Yeh, I know. It was geting a bit messy. I'm always up for a wee bit of self deprication humour. If yeh dish it out you gotta be able to take it but dont expect me to do so quietly:D
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Is that an admission of being a closet Morris Dancer? :p
 
Steve Smith said:
And I'm sure some of them aren't even men!
Steve,
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It looks to me as the women are wearing trousers and the men are
wearing skirts, go figure as the Americans say :D
 
Rapscallion said:
Fair enough. But you do understand that to the doubters that amounts to no evidence at all?

Also, recently there has been a bit of a hoohaa with a 'terrorist expert' on fox news making similar identical allegations (in that case he stated that Birmingham is a no go zone and governed by Sharia law). That statement was widely mocked and shown to be a load of make believe.

I would suggest that if there were any part of the uk that was a no go zone or under Sharia Law, the chaps at the BNP or the EDL would very quickly point out these examples. Instead, silence, nothing from any of the Islam critics. How can you explain this? To me this can only mean one thing, that all the talk of no go zones is nothing but rubbish.
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It's not a new argument. Back in 2008 at the time the Bishop of Rochester, Dr Michael Nazir-Ali was saying the same thing about some communities being a no-go zone for people of different faiths. He apparently faced death threats for saying it. The Tory home affairs spokesman at the time, David Davis, said the Bishop had drawn attention to a "deeply serious problem". The Labour government said it had rebalanced its community cohesion strategy. Which sounds like the sort of multicultural gobbledygook we've come to expect from Labour.

You only have to look at Anjem Choudary and his banned Muslims Against Crusades group that wanted to establish independent emirates that used sharia law outside of UK law. He wanted to start with Bradford, Dewsbury and Tower Hamlets.
 
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BRASH said:
Do you actually have something to say or are you just trying to bait me. Either way my interest is waning rather rapidly.
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Yes, I mentioned it a few posts back and you said you chose not to answer. Remember? Post #628
Simply saying it's a bit contradictory to demand people to answer your posts and not do it yourself.
 
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