Amazing Kodak Brownie images from Pearl Harbor 1941

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Just discovered (it states) some historical photos from an old Brownie Camera found in a soldiers foot locker.
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Thanks Mark, something went awry with the paste and I have spotted it.
 
Cheers Guys!
Makes you wonder why people make these claims!
Still great images though!
 
wontolla said:
Cheers Guys!
Makes you wonder why people make these claims!
Still great images though!
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To get traffic on their sites, blogs etc. Why else? Why else does the Express always run "WARNING - Arctic Weather Coming" stories, with generic satellite images of unconnected things? Because the ignorant will buy the paper. Why else?
 
Alastair said:
Because people want to believe them.

Why did you want to believe it? ;)
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I didn't WANT to believe it, I took the claims at face value, then smelled a rat.
 
I did wonder, simply because being found in a Box brownie implies 1 roll of film and getting 16 good well exposed shots of a single roll is going some.
 
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Very good going since it only takes 8 to a roll. Assuming 6x9 standard of the majority of brownies of the era.
 
Interesting that the Hoax-Slayer article points out a few reasons why it's not the true story but misses the 8 to a roll point completely!
 
Nod said:
Interesting that the Hoax-Slayer article points out a few reasons why it's not the true story but misses the 8 to a roll point completely!
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Probably because "Box Brownie" is generically used to describe several different camera models, not all of which were 8 to a roll.
 
Alastair said:
Probably because "Box Brownie" is generically used to describe several different camera models, not all of which were 8 to a roll.
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I don't know of any 645 brownies certainly not from the 30s or 40s. Not to say that there aren't any but I've never seen any.
 
These photos regularly surface, and the same discussion always seems to follow.
I've no idea if they are genuine, but if something seems too good to be true then maybe it is!!!
 
steveo_mcg said:
I don't know of any 645 brownies certainly not from the 30s or 40s. Not to say that there aren't any but I've never seen any.
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The original "Brownie" shot a square frame on 117 film - that's 12 exposures per roll. Other variants used 116, 616, 127, 120, 124 and 620 films.
 
Alastair said:
The original "Brownie" shot a square frame on 117 film - that's 12 exposures per roll. Other variants used 116, 616, 127, 120, 124 and 620 films.
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In general these basic cameras used as large a film area as was sensible usually 2:3 ish so 6x9 on 120/620, 4x7 on 127. Don't know about the other formats I've not seen many.
 
Alastair said:
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/pearl-harbor-brownie-photos.shtml

There are several pointers in the images presented that indicate that the story wasn't quite right.
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Explains why the dimensions didn't look right for a Box camera.

I've posted this on this site before, but this is a link to a genuine box of negatives that I scanned last year, that previously belonged to my Uncle Ray. The War is the Forgotten War. Very much like to hoax but real and very personal to me.
 
steveo_mcg said:
In general these basic cameras used as large a film area as was sensible usually 2:3 ish so 6x9 on 120/620, 4x7 on 127. Don't know about the other formats I've not seen many.
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This is just the Kodak Box Brownie model list, it doesn't include non-Kodak box cameras that might attract the name applied as a generic description (in much the same way any vacuum cleaner is a "hoover")..

http://www.brownie-camera.com/list.shtml
 
Alastair said:
This is just the Kodak Box Brownie model list, it doesn't include non-Kodak box cameras that might attract the name applied as a generic description (in much the same way any vacuum cleaner is a "hoover")..

http://www.brownie-camera.com/list.shtml
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I've not been through the whole list but spot checking that the pre 1950 models were all 1:1 or 2:3, they're all basically the same thing. A cardboard box with a meniscus lens and a shutter none had the detail to go much smaller than 1:1.
 
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