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Just to be clear I'm not looking to sell on Talk Photography. I have just inherited an Air Riffle and I have no use for it at all, it looks like it might be worth a few bob and wondered where you can advertise these items these days, can anyone offer any advice.
 
If you are on Facebook try and find a local group or look online for a club Most of the shops I've used in the past have gone, I used free ad papers many years ago too but again it's no where near as popular.

I haven't used mine in a year or 2 as it's pre charge and it gets harder and harder to find placed to recharge the bottle.
 
beyond the blue said:
Just to be clear I'm not looking to sell on Talk Photography. I have just inherited an Air Riffle and I have no use for it at all, it looks like it might be worth a few bob and wondered where you can advertise these items these days, can anyone offer any advice.
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What is it?

foggy4ever said:
If you are on Facebook try and find a local group or look online for a club Most of the shops I've used in the past have gone, I used free ad papers many years ago too but again it's no where near as popular.

I haven't used mine in a year or 2 as it's pre charge and it gets harder and harder to find placed to recharge the bottle.
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Is that the type that work off a divers type bottle?

Only ones i'm familiar with are the pistols that use co2, but they needed FAC1 years ago when I was into target shooting
 
tijuana taxi said:
Is that the type that work off a divers type bottle?

Only ones i'm familiar with are the pistols that use co2, but they needed FAC1 years ago when I was into target shooting
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Yes, a divers type bottle. I've seen and used the pistols that use the small co2 cartridges about 20 yrs ago at a club.

AirArms S400 classic

AirArms S400 Classic by Scott, on Flickr
 
foggy4ever said:
Yes, a divers type bottle. I've seen and used the pistols that use the small co2 cartridges about 20 yrs ago at a club.

AirArms S400 classic

AirArms S400 Classic by Scott, on Flickr
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Looks good, presumably the charge gave a fair number of shots, are compressors too expensive even for a club?

The ones we used had their own cylinder that were filled from a larger bottle, it was one of these https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2015/12/feinwerkbau-model-2-target-pistol-part-2/
We got our co2 from home brew shops, in fact still got a couple of cylinders in the shed
 
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Spotted you're in Radcliffe - you may want to try the Atherton Indoor Range - https://www.athertonindoorrange.co.uk/
They've got a shop on site and when I wanted to get rid of my old Theoben Evo they stuck it on display and sent me the money when it sold.
 
I have a nearly new one I've hardly used it. Air bottle, single shot.
I tried a couple of local dealers and they didn't want to know.
Only interested in selling new ones.
I'm trying to sell locally but so far no success.
 
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You could decant from a diving cylinder with a great deal of care and the right adapter whip.
donkeys ago we use to have small cylinder mounted to diving jackets as emergency fill option, these were however 232 bar compatible so it was just a case of equalising the cylinders.

you can buy a 15 litre cylinder for about £200 and each fill providing it is in test is about a £5.
All you would need then is filling whip with a guage so you can decant to the appropriate pressure, this is however for compressed air?

http://www.aquanauts.co.uk/15-litre-faber-dive-cylinder-232-bar
 
Krisstiffer said:
Spotted you're in Radcliffe - you may want to try the Atherton Indoor Range - https://www.athertonindoorrange.co.uk/
They've got a shop on site and when I wanted to get rid of my old Theoben Evo they stuck it on display and sent me the money when it sold.
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Now I do know a bit about these, were made locally to where my mum lived and where I reside now.(Cambridgeshire)
Didn't they have some form of springless system, gas ram or something similar, think they went bust a while back now

Only conventional air rifles I owned were a BSA Mercury and later a HW77, went over to target shooting with firstly a FWB 300 and then a FWB 601
 
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tijuana taxi said:
Didn't they have some form of springless system, gas ram or something similar, think they went bust a while back now
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Yup - that's right - had a gas ram. Had most of the smoothness of a bottle rifle without needing to worry about filling the bottle!
Was a nice gun but I never used it and was one of the things that got "sorted" when I moved house......
 
Krisstiffer said:
Yup - that's right - had a gas ram. Had most of the smoothness of a bottle rifle without needing to worry about filling the bottle!
Was a nice gun but I never used it and was one of the things that got "sorted" when I moved house......
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Thanks, sounds interesting, they were made just up the road here on an industrial estate, seem to recall the owners had a falling out.
 
Fyi I believe the the s400 can be charged by styrup pump as well as co2 bottles, bit of exercise but cheaper in long run.
 
beyond the blue said:
Just to be clear I'm not looking to sell on Talk Photography. I have just inherited an Air Riffle and I have no use for it at all, it looks like it might be worth a few bob and wondered where you can advertise these items these days, can anyone offer any advice.
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Gunstar.co.uk
 
Gunstar or gunmart are the two biggest market places for air rifles. It'll also give you an idea of the value
 
Airgunbbs.com is a English air gun forum I frequent.
You need a certain number of posts to list sale items though.
 
You'll want to be very careful of the law. Scotland now requires you to have a certificate to hold an air gun. You can advertise, but not sell online. You must complete the sale face to face. Its also your responsibility to make sure its muzzle energy isn't over the limit for FAC (12 fpe) If you're not worried about squeezing every £ out of it you can then a local dealer my be the way to go
 
there used to be a place near the top of haliwell road in bolton called north west gun centre which might be worth a visit it looks like it's still there
i know a few years ago they used to buy n sell second hand air rifles

worth a try
 
tijuana taxi said:
Now I do know a bit about these, were made locally to where my mum lived and where I reside now.(Cambridgeshire)
Didn't they have some form of springless system, gas ram or something similar, think they went bust a while back now

Only conventional air rifles I owned were a BSA Mercury and later a HW77, went over to target shooting with firstly a FWB 300 and then a FWB 601
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You just listed exactly what I had but I had a HW77K not the long barrel version, I used to shoot indoor running boar targets.
 
ChrisH said:
You just listed exactly what I had but I had a HW77K not the long barrel version, I used to shoot indoor running boar targets.
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How strange, had a go at running boar a couple of times, must admit it was good fun
 
I had two air rifles that were the break barrel type a number of years ago. After they spend a number of years unused in the cupboard I handed them into my local police station for them to deal with. One I was given had been ‘repaired’ by its previous owner so was dubious about its legality so didn’t want to sell it on.
 
tijuana taxi said:
Now I do know a bit about these, were made locally to where my mum lived and where I reside now.(Cambridgeshire)
Didn't they have some form of springless system, gas ram or something similar, think they went bust a while back now

Only conventional air rifles I owned were a BSA Mercury and later a HW77, went over to target shooting with firstly a FWB 300 and then a FWB 601
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My first target rifle (back in the eighties) was a FWB 300S, and I regret ever selling it. It was so accurate and the two stage trigger was fantastic. I have had a Weihrauch HW97K for about twenty years (the anniversary model with green/grey laminate) and it is a very good rifle, very consistent.
 
cosmicma said:
there used to be a place near the top of haliwell road in bolton called north west gun centre which might be worth a visit it looks like it's still there
i know a few years ago they used to buy n sell second hand air rifles

worth a try
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Come to think of it there was one in the basement of Nortex Mill, might have a ride round to it and see if they can do anything with it.
 
I inherited my Dad's BSA .22 underlever spring sport with auto tap, quite rare I believe, he bought it about 1963 I think, as he died in 65, still have it, don't intend to sell for any price.
 
If still looking to sell try
Guntrader or Airgunbbs I have bought and sold on both. Legally you need a license if it is over 12lbs pressure so best to get it tested otherwise you are selling and in possession of an illegal firearm. Most clubs or gunshops can help with this.

If you knew who left it you try and get the bottle/pump and charging pipes if you can and also see if they had a gun license with this one on it. If they didn’t you are more likely to be in the clear if they did you need to get it stored at a gun dealer until it is sold.

Legally you can only sell face to face or through a registered gun dealer who can send it to another dealer for collection from a buyer.

You will need to know make, model, caliber, serial number and if it has a scope make and model. Scopes can vary in price I bought a gun a while back from a guy who had all the gear no idea, I paid £500 for it and he left a Zeiss conquest scope on it which I got £650 for and still got £500 for the rifle a year or two later. Most are sub £100 though and do a decent job.

Good luck
 
Good advice as to getting it tested to make sure it is legal.
obviously from a point of safety and responsibility.
 
Shame you're not closer. I've a chrono for checking power, but any local range/gunshop should be able to do this. I'd guess it's standard though as those can accurately shoot 60-65yards.
 
A chrono check is good, but understand if you take it to a gun shop and it's over the limit, they're legally obliged to hold it while you decide to have it destroyed, deactivated, or returned on an FAC.
You can't get it tuned down below the legal limit if it's been tested and found to be over,
 
beyond the blue said:
Just to be clear I'm not looking to sell on Talk Photography. I have just inherited an Air Riffle and I have no use for it at all, it looks like it might be worth a few bob and wondered where you can advertise these items these days, can anyone offer any advice.
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Do you know about http://www.pontefractairrifleclub.co.uk/ who are a friendly lot (I used to be a member) and fairly near you.
There’s a place in Pontefract that recharges gas bottles cheaply provided they are within test. You haven’t given any details of the gun.
Some of the information given by others here is good and some of it wildly inaccurate.
 
MatBin said:
I inherited my Dad's BSA .22 underlever spring sport with auto tap, quite rare I believe, he bought it about 1963 I think, as he died in 65, still have it, don't intend to sell for any price.
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One of the first air rifles which I shot regularly, was a BSA Airsporter from the early seventies, which belonged to a schoolmate (his dad owned a fair bit of land with nurseries, and had set aside a fifty yard long stretch with a large bank at the rear, where we could set up proper targets). It was a heavy, precise rifle and we used open sights. Even at the age of 14/15 we were quite disciplined, and took it in turns to spot/shoot - happy days:)

https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2016/11/bsa-airsporter-mark-i-part-1/
 
sphexx said:
Do you know about http://www.pontefractairrifleclub.co.uk/ who are a friendly lot (I used to be a member) and fairly near you.
There’s a place in Pontefract that recharges gas bottles cheaply provided they are within test. You haven’t given any details of the gun.
Some of the information given by others here is good and some of it wildly inaccurate.
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Vote for contacting these, i used to shoot field targert and competitions here were always friendly
 
sphexx said:
Do you know about http://www.pontefractairrifleclub.co.uk/ who are a friendly lot (I used to be a member) and fairly near you.
There’s a place in Pontefract that recharges gas bottles cheaply provided they are within test. You haven’t given any details of the gun.
Some of the information given by others here is good and some of it wildly inaccurate.
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Sorry, I got confused with all the others joining in and reminiscing, I see you are not anywhere near Pontefract :(. Looks like https://www.athertonindoorrange.co.uk/ reference above is your best option.
 
Tori_T said:
A chrono check is good, but understand if you take it to a gun shop and it's over the limit, they're legally obliged to hold it while you decide to have it destroyed, deactivated, or returned on an FAC.
You can't get it tuned down below the legal limit if it's been tested and found to be over,
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If it's registered as FAC then it stays registered as FAC. I believe you can have them detuned below the 12ft/lbs (especially if the tuning was by fitting factory parts) but they still stay on a FAC as there's a database of serial numbers and it stops them being sold as detuned then retuned back above
 
I have a VMach Stage 1 97k in 22, love that gun. Loooong ago, a mate of mine ahd a Venom tuned Hw80 in .177, that thing was awesome, the flattest trajectory I've ever seen on a sub 12ft/lbs air weapon.

I lived in Wales when I got my 97k, then moved to Scotland in 2005. 2 years ago here, air weapons became licensed, whether or not over or under the 12 ft/lbs limit. The AWC as it's known, is just as 'tricky', if that's the right word to obtain as an SGC or FAC. This prompted me to apply for my SGC, as currently owned air weapons would be covered by a valid SGC, so I still have my air weapons as well as a Winchester SX3 Black Shadow 12g, 3 shot semi auto. What a gun that is.

I did consider just selling up before I got my SGC but the gunshops here were just offering almost pennies for air weapons with the legislation coming in as there would soon be a glut. Many owners have decided to keep their air weapons and haven't gotten their AWC, so instantly criminalised themselves overnight.

You could try selling yours at a gunshop but you'll take a hit on the true value. Beware of posting to a potential buyer, it used to be allowed to sell guns via mail and mail order but that's been stopped and they have to be purchased in person, face to face in the UK.

Sound advice to get it on a chrono, if you're not sure of its history. (y)

I think I would just keep it though (provided it's sub 12ft/lbs), it's a lovely gun, one of the best around in fact.
 
Byker28i said:
If it's registered as FAC then it stays registered as FAC. I believe you can have them detuned below the 12ft/lbs (especially if the tuning was by fitting factory parts) but they still stay on a FAC as there's a database of serial numbers and it stops them being sold as detuned then retuned back above
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*nods* That would be a can of worms for the authorities, though. Can of Worms 1.gif
If they've lost track of a registered firearm into the hands of a non-ticket holder, someone won't be getting their pension.

My main concern was for a badly stored weapon dieselling on an official test and forcing surrender, especially if the shop doesn't know him.
 
I bought my Chromo as I was worried about a gun I bought my lad. It was a BSA Ultra SE that the previous owner had completely stripped, painted cammo, added a larger capacity reservoir from a scorpion. It turned out he hadn't done it very well, nipped a lot of the seals so I had to strip it and re do all the o-rings and seals. turns out thats around 10.5.
My HW97 composite 177 runs jbetween 11-11.5, depending on pellet.

I've got a Chrony F1. It links via bluetooth or cable to the blueshot app on my phone. Works a treat. We all checked out air rifles with it at our last premises. We used to have a huge paddock out the rear with a small range setup. It was a blow when we were bought and moved to an industrial estate.
 
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I got thinking about this again as the owner of airguns and a having a shotgun licence so I called my local Firearms Licensing Department for advice on what should happen if I popped my clogs.

Recommendation is to leave a Will with details on where cabinet keys are details of the guns and any tests carried to pass onto who will get what. If they are to be sold contact someone with a traders license to take the guns into legal and safe storage. As for my airguns I said I had tested them but if for instance if I got another and it was untested what would happen. The response was it is the responsibility of any airgun owner to ensure it is within the "current" legal limit of 12lbs. They advised that you should test any gun if not from a reputable dealer. If you send it to be tested and it is over it will have to be held until such a time as the owner gets a FAC which is not as straight forward as just applying for one. Also if it is over the legal limit and you got it from somebody you knew or did not know you should report it to the police, firstly to get it registered FAC and then sold or legally destroyed. Also by reporting it to the police they can pursue the person for dealing in illegal firearms.

The chances of the OP's gun being over are slim, but if it is over you are better off knowing before you try and sell it because if you do and then it is tested you could face action for selling an illegal firearms which is pretty serious. Just saying you did not know is a slim excuse when it comes to guns.
 
The whole 12 ft lb business is very problematic. As @Byker28i mentions the power can vary quite a lot with the weight of the pellet and if the police take you gun off for testing they are not obliged to use the pellets you use and so may find your gun over the limit.
The 12 ft lb limit was introduced at the request of U.K. manufacturers post ww2 who couldn’t compete with the more powerful German air guns available at the time. Another protectionist measure that didn’t go well :(
 
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