Advantages and disadvantages of a crop sensor camera?

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Since I took up photography a couple of years ago, I have always owner crop sensor cameras. I started off with a Nikon D90 and now I have two Nikon D7200 bodies. Very good cameras but recently found myself getting a little frustrated. I did my first wedding shoot last week and the venue was very small and I struggle with my 28-75mm lens. Even at 28mm, I struggled to capture what I wanted to capture because of the crop sensor factor that comes into play. It's times like that I am considering going full frame...? But, I also like the fact that when I zoom in, I can get closer and compress images a bit further and I think it works well with my tamron 70-300mm lens. Anyway, what are your thoughts? Thanks.
 
I had a great wide angle lens that worked wonderfully on my SLR that's rendered useless by my Sony APS-C sensor. It means you have to go for an 8-12mm lens to get anywhere close, and they're not cheap.

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A 28-75 lens wouldn't be my first choice on a crop sensor body. I'd trade that in against a 17-50 f2.8 of some description (Tamron and Sigma both good and inexpensive, Nikon 17-55 good but can be expensive) I'd look at buying used too. Another option is the new Sigma 18-35, but its big, heavy and expensive (belter of a lens though). If you need wider still there are plenty of good wide angle zooms around (Tokina 11-16/20 and Sigma do a good one too).
 
A 28-75 lens wouldn't be my first choice on a crop sensor body. I'd trade that in against a 17-50 f2.8 of some description (Tamron and Sigma both good and inexpensive, Nikon 17-55 good but can be expensive) I'd look at buying used too. Another option is the new Sigma 18-35, but its big, heavy and expensive (belter of a lens though). If you need wider still there are plenty of good wide angle zooms around (Tokina 11-16/20 and Sigma do a good one too).

What he said - 28-75 is the wrong lens for crop in general use. I'd either look for 17/8-50 f2.8 or 16-80ish f3.5-4.5.
 
Yes, the problem is you've bought a full frame lens to use on a crop camera. Buy the right lenses and sensor size doesn't really matter.
 
Thanks for the advise. Looks like I'll be moving this lens on soon then and get the 17-50mm. I might get the Tokina 11-16 also. I used to have this lens and then I sold it and regretted it ever since.
 
Tokina 11-16, f2.8. Remember there are two versions with motor and without. A fantastic lens even if Ken Rockwell say's so:eek:
 
Do you mean auto focus? That was the one I had.
 
Thanks for the advise. Looks like I'll be moving this lens on soon then and get the 17-50mm. I might get the Tokina 11-16 also. I used to have this lens and then I sold it and regretted it ever since.

the most inexpensive lens you can buy is the (standard) DX kit lens 18-105. Why don't you stick one of those in the bag and then see what you need? I think the tokina will be too wide for photographing people 17-50 ok but then you may prefer a touch longer for portraits. Nothing wrong with a FF on a DX camera it is just you get what to you is too narrow an angle of view.
 
Yes, the problem is you've bought a full frame lens to use on a crop camera. Buy the right lenses and sensor size doesn't really matter.
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But I wouldn't go so Cara's 'doesn't really matter', I'd say matters very little.

Buy the 17-55 2.8 if you're serious, and if you need wider, buy a UWA designed for crop.

I'd also get rid of the Tamron and buy a faster Telezoom if you're serious too.
 
Thanks. The reason I want to go for the 17-50 or similar is because it's a nice fast lens. I've had other lenses before from f3.5 and they're ok but the faster the better and it's similarly priced so makes sense going for the faster f2.8 I feel....

I think the tokina does have its place. At a wedding in June I used the tokina to shoot some flowers close up with the dresses in the background in a small room in the house during a bridal prep which I couldn't do with my 18-200 at the time. I may not use it that often but I think it's useful to have in the back just in case...

On my 2!mnd body I use my tamron 70-300mm lens which I like a lot. I can also change it to another lens such as my 50 prime or 105 sigma.
 
Cant you just get a 10-20 or whatever.

Your frustration is because you are not switching to an appropriate lens because you never bought it in the first place.
 
I suspect the 'frustration' is that he has bought a fancy camera, that has serendipitousely delivered a shallow focus effect, that micro-sensor compacts and camera-phones, exploiting the facet of incredibly short focal lengths to reduce the critical-focus range, and draw the near focus distance so close to the camera,so they are 'focus free', cannot achieve. Hence buying an 'enthusiast' crop-sensor camera, curiously mismatched to the longer lens for a larger 35mm frame camera, that exaggerates that shallow-focus effect, has delivered it 'by lucky-accident' and resulted in pictures that to a non enthusiast audience display a 'quality' they associate with 'professional' photo's, encouraging the OP to engage in what is more usually a 'professional' discipline, they do not have the expertise know how for, and to continue with the misguided pre-conception, re-enforced by the apparent confirmation that their 'professional' achievements are the result of buying professional gear, so to continue the trend and make more professional images as exemplified by shallow focus effects from fast apertures, they need even more professional gear and still faster aperture lenses,, not professional know-how.... beyond what pro gear a to buy!
MY fear here is that so ill equipped in know-how to even be asking this question, how many disappointed couples and families there may be or disputes and arguments, when the OP's results don't meet their expectations, from their lack of camera know how, and reliance on equipment....
I think Phil once commented that the job of a wedding photographer is 99% cat herding in chaos and 1% pointing a camera! If they are good at the cat herding bit, perhaps not knowing too much about cameras may not be such a problem, but otherwise? NOT an arena I have EVER wished to engage in!!

I think that the most useful, but probably least welcome advice would be to learn about selective focus techniques, lenses, and cropping effects, learn an AWFUL lot more of the actual craft side of the job, as well as the business around it, rather than diving in all credit cards blazing looking for a gadget to do the job for you! But still... just my opinion.

To answer to the original question; whats the advantage and disadvantages of Full-Frame to Crop?
Crop-sensor cameras are more common, as are lenses and accessories for them, hence usually they are cheaper, and more available. Other than that? Pretty much comes down to actual and more specific requirements and actual and more specific camera comparisons, where its not which is 'better' or 'worse' but where the overall and inherent 'compromises' are least for the job.... which is back to top and 'savvy' over 'gadgets'... as my old wood-work teacher used to say, 'power-tools are a wonderful thing to let a craftsman make more, more easily, and fools to more and more easily eff-up! If you cant make an accurate hole with a hand drill, you wont make one any better with a Hack-and-Wrecker!, its the crafty that makes the craftsman, not the tool-kit!"
 
Did you just have a brain-fart?

I ask because his photos are one hell of a lot better than yours!
 
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