Adobe offer "safety net" for photography deal LR users

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One of the concerns, highlighted by Lightroom users taking advantage of the photographer creative cloud deal (LR&PS), was in relation to accessing your images. Adobe have announced, that any creative cloud subscriber using LR, will still be able to access the programme without a continued subscription. The only things disabled are the develop and map modules.

I think this is an excellent "safety net" for people concerned about losing LR edits, tagging, etc.

More information can be found on Scott Kelby's blog post -

http://scottkelby.com/2014/adobe-quietly-allays-a-big-creative-cloud-concern-in-lightroom-5-5/
 
If you buy the program (not cloud) you get to use it for as long as you like, and you have all the modules.

I'm afraid Adobes 'offer' doesn't make me feel it's a safety net... what they are going to let me keep access to my photos and tags? I already have that with a stand alone good old fashioned lightroom, in what way is the cloud better?
 
I am in the school that likes stand alone installed software too. :agree:
 
I'm a stand-alone product guy too. Possibly in part due to my age as I plan to retire in the next couple of years and I would like to have the last full copy I decide to invest in rather than lose access to a useable product if I stop a subscription.
 
There will always be people who wish to have perpetual licences for products. This is more relevant to those people, who are considering the cloud method or who are currently with the creative cloud, but were concerned about what happens when and if they decide to stop with the creative cloud.
 
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The reason we won't switch to cloud is we use lightroom / photoshop for work, we can't afford to have them 'shut down' just because of an internet or adobe issue (like the recent outage) if I have a wedding being edited I don't want the develop modual shutting down, and to be honest I haven't a lot of faith that some modual will keep working, but even if they do thats no help if your trying to finish a job you get paid for.

Also I'm courious, do the quick develop options in library also stop working?
 
swanseamale47 said:
The reason we won't switch to cloud is we use lightroom / photoshop for work, we can't afford to have them 'shut down' just because of an internet or adobe issue (like the recent outage) if I have a wedding being edited I don't want the develop modual shutting down, and to be honest I haven't a lot of faith that some modual will keep working, but even if they do thats no help if your trying to finish a job you get paid for.

Also I'm courious, do the quick develop options in library also stop working?
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It won't just "shut down" if there is some sort of outage.
You PC only has to call home once a month to confirm the subscription.

From what I understand the quick develop tools will still work.
 
:agree:. :plus1:.
The programs are on your computer, "Not on the cloud".

Rhodese.
 
Problem only arises if you cancel subscription. Then I assume virtually everything will be disabled?


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swanseamale47 said:
The reason we won't switch to cloud is we use lightroom / photoshop for work, we can't afford to have them 'shut down' just because of an internet or adobe issue (like the recent outage) if I have a wedding being edited I don't want the develop modual shutting down, and to be honest I haven't a lot of faith that some modual will keep working, but even if they do thats no help if your trying to finish a job you get paid for.

Also I'm courious, do the quick develop options in library also stop working?
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ecoleman said:
It won't just "shut down" if there is some sort of outage.
You PC only has to call home once a month to confirm the subscription.

From what I understand the quick develop tools will still work.
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Additionally you have 3 months/90days without the software calling home before it actually shuts you out. You'd have to be incredibly unlucky/isolated to have Adobe's authentication servers go down and your 90 days run out.
 
I'm very glad i didnt go with cloud as my home internet is currently showing a mighty 0.2mb/sec and cloud would be unuseable.
 
big soft moose said:
I'm very glad i didnt go with cloud as my home internet is currently showing a mighty 0.2mb/sec and cloud would be unuseable.
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It would it if the Adobe software was in the cloud, but as it sits on the disk on your computer right next to you then you'll be fine.
 
meonshore said:
It would it if the Adobe software was in the cloud, but as it sits on the disk on your computer right next to you then you'll be fine.
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yeah but it still speaks to the 'cloud' doesnt it for verification purposes - and my crappy interwebz is barely fast enough for forum and email to function (let alone vdownloading the software in the first place)
 
big soft moose said:
yeah but it still speaks to the 'cloud' doesnt it for verification purposes - and my crappy interwebz is barely fast enough for forum and email to function (let alone vdownloading the software in the first place)
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Once every 30 days and I'd imagine that even at 0.2MB/sec it will take less than a couple of seconds to send a few bytes of authentication up and back down. Not like it's transferring a 50GB image ;)
 
so its not actually cloud computing at all - just a subscription instead of an outright purchase

downloading the software could still be interesting though (i'll be having this out with Bt as they ought to be able to do better than 0.2 even down a copper line)
 
big soft moose said:
so its not actually cloud computing at all - just a subscription instead of an outright purchase
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Yes it is basically monthly/annual subscription software with a monthly call home - but it is provisioned in terms of initial download, and updates from the cloud, you can use the cloud to sync your images onto an iPad for Lightroom and there is a cloud based portfolio included.

The rest is business as usual.
 
One thing this thread has done, is highlight, that there are still LR users who do not understand the workings of the creative cloud. Seems Adobe still have a lot of work to do.
 
FruitFlakes said:
Additionally you have 3 months/90days without the software calling home before it actually shuts you out. You'd have to be incredibly unlucky/isolated to have Adobe's authentication servers go down and your 90 days run out.
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A lot of people were unlucky then, thousands lost their photoshop CC when it went down recently. Personally I'm not prepared to take the risk, and it seems I'm not alone either.
 
I use the full suite of Creative Cloud at work and have been since it was introduced. We have never, ever had an issue and thats with 10 separate users. We even had a few days in the studio without an internet connection and everything was exactly the same. Obviously we store our work on a server rather than in the cloud itself.
 
swanseamale47 said:
A lot of people were unlucky then, thousands lost their photoshop CC when it went down recently. Personally I'm not prepared to take the risk, and it seems I'm not alone either.
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I suspect the issue, for these users, was temporary loss of files stored, rather than actual use of the software. Software is installed, on local pc, so performs just like a perpetual useage version.

Like most things, cc has it's advantages and disadvantages, but at least users still have a choice.
 
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I don't want to be tied to an Adobe subscription. The photographer deal with LR and PS is on special for the first year at £8.95/month but what will it be next year or the year after. They've effectively got you by the proverbials. By owning the software outright I'm in control of when I upgrade and the related costs.

It's quite different for full CC users who may want to keep the software current and don't want to fork out such a large sum to purchase initially or upgrade but it's quite a different story with LR users.

I use my old copy of PS3 on the odd occasion I need it which together with LR suits my needs. Unless Adobe add some killer features I doubt I'll upgrade for a while, I certainly don't want to go subscription based.
 
Additionally you have 3 months/90days without the software calling home before it actually shuts you out. You'd have to be incredibly unlucky/isolated to have Adobe's authentication servers go down and your 90 days run out.
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That's only if you're on the annual plan, otherwise it's 30 days.

The outage issue is the real concern give Adobe's poor track record.
 
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