Adobe Creative Cloud. Maybe a rethink

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This is a release from Adobe regarding the creative cloud concerns.

http://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/our-move-to-creative-cloud-an-update/


The interesting item is the fourth paragraph from the bottom

" For photographers, we are looking at potential offerings that recognize the photography community – because it is so broad – has some unique needs."

Plus a few lines higher

"We understand this is a big change and for customers who are not yet ready to move, we will continue to offer CS6 products through our reseller partners and Adobe.com."

It's interesting that we are seeing more and more features coming into Lightroom that for me makes Photoshop less and less of an application that I use. I suspect I could ,if needed, get away with Elements
 
Hi, not read the link as yet but before I do from the OP
"We will continue to offer CS6 products through our reseller partners and Adobe.com."
Yes of course they will because it is already out there in boxes and boxes all over the world and they want rid because CS7 is probably around the corner but try and buy that at your local reseller or for that matter through Adobe site.
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Russ
 
i doubt theyre rethinking much (if anything), as far as i know theyve always said photographers using LR wont be affected.

and i think all theyre saying theyre not going to remove CS6 just yet.
 
russellsnr said:
Hi, not read the link as yet but before I do from the OP
"We will continue to offer CS6 products through our reseller partners and Adobe.com."
Yes of course they will because it is already out there in boxes and boxes all over the world and they want rid because CS7 is probably around the corner but try and buy that at your local reseller or for that matter through Adobe site.
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Russ
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there will be no CS7 because of the move to CC.
 
I think Elements will get a revamp and fill the place that most amateurs use PS for...
 
If you are on a mac, check out Pixelmator as an alternative. Looks and feels very Photoshop'ish. Not as feature packed as Photoshop, but handles RAW files and for only £10.49 ( yes £10.49) from the app store an impressive package
 
just reads like he usual corporate speak.. customers blah blah blah yeah yeah
 
It is sowing the seed to possibly back track a bit. I don't think they were expecting this level of backlash from customers, but they are on the CC route, and any changes from now to their plan is just damage limitation imho.

As for CS6 still being available, try finding the option to buy, and not subscribe on their site. :thinking: It may be there somewhere, but it is not easy to find. :shake:
 
There is only one line that needs to be quoted.

"Because of this we have no plans to change our focus on Creative Cloud."

They are going cloud, like it or lump it.


Now for those that do subscribe, the more worrying part is.

"With regards to file access, Adobe completely agrees that customers should have access to their files if they choose to stop their Creative Cloud membership. Our job is to delight our customers with innovation, but there are a number of options open to us here and we expect to have news around this issue shortly"


What do they mean, there'll be news shortly, have they yet to decide if your going to have access to your file after you stop paying them ??
 
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acetone said:
There is only one line that needs to be quoted.

"Because of this we have no plans to change our focus on Creative Cloud."

They are going cloud, like it or lump it.


Now for those that do subscribe, the more worrying part is.

"With regards to file access, Adobe completely agrees that customers should have access to their files if they choose to stop their Creative Cloud membership. Our job is to delight our customers with innovation, but there are a number of options open to us here and we expect to have news around this issue shortly"


What do they mean, there'll be news shortly, have they yet to decide if your going to have access to your file after you stop paying them ??
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It's true, they are fully going cloud, and as Adobe is one of the most pirated software publisher out there (along with Microsoft) they are trying to have a better hold on who uses what. For those who do pay to legally use the software, then it isn't going to be a big difference from the current situation, unless people are upgrading less then every two or three years. The good news is as well that people will more easily be able to start from scratch, many couldn't afford to buy PS at £600+ but going monthly makes that easier.

As for the point about making files available, that will only affect what is stored in the cloud, anything you have locally won't be a problem as it is still there (well, obviously unless you don't have anything to view .CR2 files on).

There are things that annoy me though! For example, the new features that are out for CS6 have only been given to the CC subscribers rather than those of us who bought licenses as either a box or under TLP/CLP schemes.

I will be moving to CC when PS CC is released assuming the features are worth it, if not I will stick with CS6 for a bit longer.

We are in a time now that is going to see more and more software go down the service route so subscriptions will slowly become the 'norm'. Office 365 is another example and we've all been doing AV in this way for quite a long time (depending who you use).

Going back to Adobe for a minute, the business world has really picked up well on the service and even though both options (license or subscription) have been available for a while the sub is selling very strongly due to easier budgeting and lower up front costs so I think Adobe probably has it right for the places they sell the biggest ticket deals in the corporate world.
 
mark1616 said:
It's true, they are fully going cloud, and as Adobe is one of the most pirated software publisher out there (along with Microsoft) they are trying to have a better hold on who uses what. For those who do pay to legally use the software, then it isn't going to be a big difference from the current situation, unless people are upgrading less then every two or three years. The good news is as well that people will more easily be able to start from scratch, many couldn't afford to buy PS at £600+ but going monthly makes that easier.
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This has little to do with Adobe wanting to tackle piracy, as the way the have their 'Cloud' set up at the moment, it seems it may be as easy to pirate as previous versions. This is to do with a constant revenue stream, pure and simple. With the added benefit that users, at the moment, will have to keep paying to access certain files that have been created with their software. :shrug:

If they go truly to a cloud model, where files are stored and edited while connected to the internet and their servers, then that is where the real trouble may lie imho. :nono: I've been having intermittent problems with my modem since Saturday, it's currently working, but could stop and not come back on till they replace the modem. :bang: Hopefully Virgin are coming to sort it on Wednesday. ;) But what if this happened when the CC program wanted to check whether it was a real copy? At the moment I can carry on using Photoshop, or any other non 'cloud' program without an internet connection. :shrug:
 
I agree, if the net is down then it's a pain, however, it gives 30 days without needing you to be logged on.... now, one thing I don't yet know is does it just check every 30 days, or is it checking every time you first get online, then if you are off for 30 days you are still fine. I would hope that latter, but there is a good chance it is the former which in your situation would be problematic.
 
I'm just going down the elements route now - I doubt I'll be renewing my subscription yet because I hardly use the other software in the cc package and I don't use the storage so don't think there's much point in me paying monthly.
 
redhed17 said:
This has little to do with Adobe wanting to tackle piracy, as the way the have their 'Cloud' set up at the moment, it seems it may be as easy to pirate as previous versions.
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nobody can say that for sure.. the software is "timebombed" and nobody can predict how often adobe are going to change the routine/data that sends the licence check packets.

unless anyone wants to change the core CS coding to remove the 30 day licence countdown..
 
How would the cloud version of say photoshop work with third party extensions? Or is the cloud version of photoshop still on your computer?
 
I suspect that Adobe are going to come up with some sort of photographer's set of software as suggested by Scott Kelby, of course this isn't likely to be much different from Elements which only needs a few bits and bobs adding to satisfy most photographers. Whether or not this is available for sale over the counter or only available for rent remains to be seen.
 
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