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Need some advice on lenses, after much thought, have decided to build up some lenes for my cannon 450d, instead of paying a fortune for a zoom one, after much reading i have decided to go for the canon L series. Have started to take some portraits, indoors, and studios. and i want a resonable zoom one. Want to buy 2 this year and 2 next. Am i right in thinking that the 24-105 F4 L IS USM would be a good choice for indoors, studio, and the EF 70-200mm f4 L IS USM for outdoor with a decent zoom, hope to get a macro and bigger zoom next year.
 
The 70-200/4 IS is a good starter for a mid-range zoom to use outdoors (indoors too if you've got a little space).
I'd look at the 24-70/2.8L for the indoor portraits. It produces better quality than the 24-105L, is a stop faster and 70mm on the long end should be fine on a 450D.

Bob
 
I take it then that the 24-70 is a better general lens for indoor work then, ie studio, parties etc
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The Canon 24-70.

I'd love to have this lens, have heard nothing but good words about it and is the bread and butter wedding lens for professionals, with a fast (f/2.8) aperture for indoors in low light.

IMO this forum has some excellent 'togs and I respect their judgment and I believe them when they say that the 24-70 is sharper than the 24-105..

Here's another review of it:-

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-24-70mm-f-2.8-L-USM-Lens-Review.aspx

I also trust their reviews, as do lots of others
 
I've got the 24-70 and although I don't use it a huge amount it's probably my favourite lens. So sharp, great colours just lovely to use.

Having said that I'm considering the 24-105 as the extra range would actually suit me better in some situations. That's on a 1.3X crop body though. For studio work the 24-70 should be fine

Here's a few with the 24-70, ignore the first couple they're just scene setting :)
 
Thanks for the advice. Went into Jessops yesterday to look at the lenes, they only had the 70-200 in, would have to go into the city to see the others. The sales person was asking if i wanted the 6 months interest free, On thinking i will get one now on interest free and another after the 6 months. Which one would be the best to start with.
 
I hate to say this, but if you don't really know which one you want, or are unable, subjectively to work out which one is best for you, do you really think you should be shelling out a lot of cash for one??

I'd want to be absolutely certain before I made such a decision. Could you not beg or borrow the use of a less expensive, but similar focal length lens to try for a while, before you make up your mind??

If you buy an 'L' lens, and then decide it's not for you, you are going to take a big hit if you have to sell it second hand.

I certainly wouldn't want to make a choice just because 'interest' free credit was available - I search around to see who was offering the best price before making a decision.

Incidentally, you said that you didn't want to pay a small fortune for a zoom lens, then go on to say that you want to buy two really expensive zoom lenses!! Are you sure that you know what you want at all?:)
 
Have you considered the hiring of these lenses first before you commit to purchase - that way you can be sure in your own mind before you make a expensive mistake.

I can recommend the 24-70L an excellent images from this lens and with f/2.8 very good for low light shots, the cons are that it is quite heavy and will knock a big hole in your pocket.
 
And i hate to say this, but No, i don't know which one i want, if i did i would not be seeking advice. I am not a professional photographer, very very amateur, in fact i know fxxx all, but i have always liked to take photos. Never had a SLR camera before and when the digi cameras started to take off, i brought a Sony cybershot when they first came out. Takes decent photos but very limited on what you can do with it, and for what it cost and what i know now, i should of got a SLR then, but from what i know, i believe the digi SLR were not very good then anyway, but ey but that's life.
Having recently retired, and got more time on my hand then i know what to do with, i thought i would take up photography. have done a bit of reading, and i understood the lens are just has impotent then the camera, if not more. So i decide to go for a middle of the road camera the cannon 450D. Was going to buy 2 lens this year and i have narrowed them down to the EF 70-200mm f4 L IS USM and the 24-105 F4 L IS USM but after putting up this thread have decide to get the 24-70/2.8L and the EF 70-200mm f4 L IS USM, When he told me in jessops that they do interest free, thought why pay cash. can easily afford the repayments, getting one at a time, and still save quite a bit, then after 18 months, still got the money in the bank plus more, then hopefully will have enough for a zoom near the top end, which his my goal, decided to get this last has it would not be used has much has the others, or if there is a supper duper camera out by cannon then, i will have a rethink.
Just wanted to know which would be the best all rounder out of the 2. You can read what each lens is very good at but you cant read what each camera is good, fairly good, and reasonable good at, so just after some opinions on which one would be better to start with, 50/50 on taking photos indoors outdoors.
 
Well, if you intend to take wildlife shots, then the 70-200 would be the best out of the two, if you want to take external shots of buildings, then I'd say the 24-70, indoors a 24-700, buildings or subjects which are quite far away and you want a zoomed perspective, then again the 70-200 would be better..

It really is swings and roundabouts really. Neither lens will do everything, so if you get one, then it won't do what the other will do, so you will be limited...

Which type of photos do you want to take more of first. What's the strongest desire ie. buildings, wildlife, portraits?

Mark
 
erding said:
Have you considered the hiring of these lenses first before you commit to purchase - that way you can be sure in your own mind before you make a expensive mistake.
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I'd agree with this, but then I am biased!
 
erding said:
Have you considered the hiring of these lenses first before you commit to purchase - that way you can be sure in your own mind before you make a expensive mistake.
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I'd agree with this, but then I am biased!

The 24-70mm f/2.8 L and the 24-105mm f/4 L IS are both good lenses but quite different. For studio work I'd prefer the 24-70 but for walkabout use I'd prefer the 24-105.

The 70-200 L family has several options - f/4 or f/2.8, with or without IS. Interestingly the f/4 IS and the f/2.8 non-IS are around the same price, so it's worth thinking about whether the f/2.8 or the IS would be most beneficial to you.
 
Again, ill echo the fact that renting might be the way forward to test the lenses, and buying from Jessops really isnt. Why dont you check out the prices from warehouse express, they usually do like interest free for 12 months.

Mike
 
can get a good deal at jessops, believe it or not even cheaper then from warehouse express, spent hours surfing the net, the only ones cheaper were the one from hong kong and then only just cheaper
 
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can get a good deal at jessops, believe it or not even cheaper then from warehouse express, spent hours surfing the net, the only ones cheaper were the one from hong kong and then only just cheaper
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Mmm... do I smell spam?

A very quick visit to Camera Price Buster reveals this statement to be completely untrue, at least with regard to the lenses which are being discussed here (24-105L, 24-70L, 70-200L).

So I wonder what your motives were, negative?
 
No not spam mate, know someone who works there, dont know if it staff discount or what, but i do know that its a good deal and i am not saying everybody can get the same deal.
 
negative said:
know someone who works there, dont know if it staff discount or what, but i do know that its a good deal and i am not saying everybody can get the same deal.
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OK, that explains it. When you mentioned a "good deal at Jessops", I assumed you meant a deal that was available to everybody. Sorry for questioning your motives.
 
it is handy knowing people at jessops.

i know the manager in halifax branch and as long as i can give him a printout of a price he will match it. ( just needs printout so he dont get done over by the area manager, lol )

Got my Lowepro Steath reporter in there earlier this year, £69.99, was on shelf at £109.95
 
I think you need to evaluate what you really need here. Ona 1.6x crop sensor neither the 24-70 or 24-105 are going to be great for building shots, especially if you can't get far enough back to get a full building in. I love my 24-105 on the full frame 5d body, but occassionally i have to go to 17-35 lens.

You might want to consider your options differently ? This isn't an answer to your quandry, merely a suggestion, and not necessarily the best optically...

Sigma 10-22mm for wide angle stuff (buildings) (£280)
Canon Nifty Fifty f1.8 for the odd portrait and fairlyclose studio work (£65)
Canon 70-200mm f4 IS for studio and wildlife.
 
To be fair to Jessops, my 5D was as cheap there as anywhere. Although that said it does now need to be returned to have the AI Servo focus fixed :(
 
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