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Hi an acquaintance who used to shoot film had these in her freezer from new, she passed them to me to dispose of as I wish, just wondering if there is anything I should know about the following films.

3 x 36 exp Fujifilm Superia 200 Colour expired April 2007
1 x 24 exp Fujifilm Superia 400 Colour expired ?
1 x 24 exp Fujifilm Superia 800 Colour expired ?
1 x 36 exp Kodak Tmax 100 TMX 135-36 Black and White expired June 1993

Any information on shooting this film would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Carol
 
If its all been frozen since purchase it should be ok to shoot it at box speed. The T-Max might be best shot at 50 ISO given its age but it probably won't make a massive amount of difference.

Andy
 
Thanks for your reply Andy.
 
I'd be a bit dubious about the 800 faster films degrade quicker, the other colour is probably fine. As Andy says better rate the T-max down a stop.
 
I would take it all down a stop. No harm giving colour negative film an extra stop of exposure - even if new.


Steve.
 
steveo_mcg said:
I'd be a bit dubious about the 800 faster films degrade quicker, the other colour is probably fine. As Andy says better rate the T-max down a stop.
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Hi Steve what would you shoot the 800 at and are any of the films mentioned above still on sale?
 
Crtm said:
Hi Steve what would you shoot the 800 at and are any of the films mentioned above still on sale?
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Yeah, knock it down a stop but it might have some pretty bad colour shifts.
 
Crtm said:
Hi Steve what would you shoot the 800 at and are any of the films mentioned above still on sale?
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All those are still on sale, I believe. The Superia 400 is labelled 400X these days, I think. Also available as Agfa Vista 400. :) Boots tend to have the Superia 200 and 400X on a BOGOHP basis.
 
This was shot on expired 1995 Kodak Ektachrome which hadn't been cold stored. It was rated at 100 so I shot it at 50 and apart from a greenish colour cast (which was easily disposed of in pp) the roll came out ok.
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ChrisR said:
All those are still on sale, I believe.
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Yes, they might have the same name, but depending on when they expired, a few of these films might not be the same emulsion that's currently available. I'm fairly certain that Superia 400 was updated around 2003, but I'm not sure of the date for other Superia films.

I'm also quite sure that 1993 T-Max listed here is different than the current T-Max emulsion.

ChrisR said:
The Superia 400 is labelled 400X these days, I think. Also available as Agfa Vista 400. :) Boots tend to have the Superia 200 and 400X on a BOGOHP basis.
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400X is a discontinued Fuji slide film. I think the label says Superia X-Tra 400 nowadays for Superia 400.
 
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I know she has (slide film?) which has been stored with the same diligence I think she was going to ebay them. Could find out if anyone is interested..........
 
Double post sorry!
 
Andysnap said:
This was shot on expired 1995 Kodak Ektachrome which hadn't been cold stored. It was rated at 100 so I shot it at 50 and apart from a greenish colour cast (which was easily disposed of in pp) the roll came out ok.
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A couple of years ago, I used some Kodachrome dated 1986 which had been given to me. It had never seen the inside of a fridge and worked fine. A very slight cool blue cast but nothing really noticeable.

Kodak even honoured the 25 (ish) years old process paid envelopes - as they should have!


Steve.
 
Steve Smith said:
A couple of years ago, I used some Kodachrome dated 1986 which had been given to me. It had never seen the inside of a fridge and worked fine. A very slight cool blue cast but nothing really noticeable.

Kodak even honoured the 25 (ish) years old process paid envelopes - as they should have!


Steve.
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Colour processing ended in 2010, didn't it?
 
skysh4rk said:
400X is a discontinued Fuji slide film. I think the label says Superia X-Tra 400 nowadays for Superia 400.
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Ah yes, I knew there was an X in there somewhere! Thanks
 
Doesn't time fly when you're having fun. :)
 
I'd allow 2 stops on all of it and even then lean towards overexposing particularly the colour film.
 
Asha said:
I'd allow 2 stops on all of it and even then lean towards overexposing particularly the colour film.
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If it's been frozen from new though, I would assume that probably wouldn't apply as freezing essentially halts any decay process (minus any effect that background radiation may have)?

If you're developing the T-MAX then I would be careful to find the correct times as it has been reformulated several times since it was produced (assuming it was manufactured around 1991 based on the expiary date), and I would be more careful regarding exposing it as earlier T-grain films had significantly less exposure latitude than the ones on sale today (which have similar exposure latitude to conventional cubic grain films).
 
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s162216 said:
If it's been frozen from new though, I would assume that probably wouldn't apply as freezing essentially halts any decay process (minus any effect that background radiation may have)?
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Freezing slows the process, but I don't think that there's any way to completely halt it, as temperature is only one part of the equation. You're right that, even when in the freezer, film is still susceptible to background or cosmic radiation, which is far more difficult to stop (unless you bury the film in hundreds of feet of rock). Fortunately, it takes a while for the effects of cosmic rays to become noticeable, but the faster the film the more sensitive the film is to cosmic rays.

Consequently, I'd still plan to overexpose, especially the 800 film.
 
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