A Quick Q, (UPDATE)...

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HI guys, Ive borrowed a yashica mat 124G from a work colleague who has not used it for over 20 years. He said I can have a play and run some film through it.

My Q is the film counter on the side shows the number 7 does this mean there's film in it? He and I wound it a few times whilst he was going over the controls with me. is there any other way to tell if there's film in it?

Matt
 
Not really matt, you could always open in a dark bag or wardrobe and open the back. just remember the counter will reset if you open it.
 
You could open the back under the covers in a darkened bedroom long enough to put a hand in and check. Roll film doesn't have holes for a sprocket, but it could be the counter is linked to the feed roll.
 
Open the back and take a look :p...Err second thoughts NO DON'T DO THAT !!:D

Tbh I've just taken a look at my 124G which has film in it and I don't believe there is any way of knowing other than the frame counter and recalling wether the camera was loaded with film. Of course, as you obviously realise the counter winds on regardless of film being in place or not.

My only suggestion would be to open the back in a changing bag/ darkroom and feel for the backing paper. Jus recall the frame number before you open the camera as the counter will reset and be aware that you will lose more frames by winding on again when you close it back up!

Sorry can't help further ....Anyone else got any ideas??
 
cheers guy's will check
 
I asked my local kodak shop if they had a dark room so I could check. They had a changing box instead and it turns out there was a film inside! Kodak Kodacolour II, which must be 20 odd years old.

Unfortunately whilst showing her how the mechanism works the rear opened a tiny bit for a split second!! Do you think the film is a gonna!!

It will be such a shame if it's ruined!!
 
You might have lost a couple but the rest should be ok.
 
Rollfilm is very light-resistant - you may have lost the last 1 or 2, but no more than that.
 
onform said:
He and I wound it a few times whilst he was going over the controls with me.
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onform said:
Do you think the film is a gonna!!
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No I don't believe the film is a gonna or at least not the frames that were originally exposed before you and your work colleague "wound it a few times".....................the exposed film will be wound in backing paper so if affected by the rear opening up, then i reckon at most it may have some fogging on the edges of the frames.

Don't be put off from developing it!
 
onform said:
I asked my local kodak shop if they had a dark room so I could check. They had a changing box instead and it turns out there was a film inside! Kodak Kodacolour II, which must be 20 odd years old.

Unfortunately whilst showing her how the mechanism works the rear opened a tiny bit for a split second!! Do you think the film is a gonna!!

It will be such a shame if it's ruined!!
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As others have said, I think it'll largely be all right, assuming that it's 120 format film.

The Yashica Mat 124g does take 220 though, doesn't it? Because 220 doesn't have any backing paper, that would possibly be ruined.
 
I don't think that Kodacolor II was every produced in 220 (to my knowledge)?

If its Kodacolour II then it'll be from about 1973-1982, if its ASA 100 then its the later version as for the first few years it was ASA 80. I would get it developed at a pro lab like Peak Imaging or somewhere and impress upon them that its quite old. If you want the best possibility of getting anything off it then I would try somewhere like Process C-22 or Film Rescue International as they specialise in recovering old films (but both are somewhat more expensive as a result).
 
Thanks Guy's... Lets just hope it wasn't opened more than this time!! I will send it off when I finish My first ever roll of 120 film that I bought today, (tmax 400), and a tmax 100 35mm roll I've had sitting around for a couple of months!!
 
Just to note - the Rolleiflex film counter does not count up when winding on without film, it just stays on 0.

As for the film - if it is on number 7, only 6 photos would've been taken. And if it has been wound on a few times, there's a maximum of 2-3 photos on the roll. Coupled with the deterioration of the film over time and the back being opened, I wouldn't bother getting it developed - not worth the cost for 2 or 3 latent photos.
 
freecom2 said:
As for the film - if it is on number 7, only 6 photos would've been taken. And if it has been wound on a few times, there's a maximum of 2-3 photos on the roll. Coupled with the deterioration of the film over time and the back being opened, I wouldn't bother getting it developed - not worth the cost for 2 or 3 latent photos.
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Valid point from FC2 tbh......@ Matt If you know of someone who does home developing perhaps they could soup it for you ....even cross process in b&w. Rodinal 1:100 semi stand develop for about an hour will offer results if there's any to be had.

If i was nearer i'd do it for you (doubt it would pay to send it to france!)
 
I'll have to check on my Yashica Mat to see whether the counter doesn't rise when winding without film - haven't used it in a while.
 
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