A question for you guys that have moved away from full frame to Fuji.

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What made you do it?
Did you find a lens (I'm guessing the 56mm) that compensates enough to eliminate the crop?
What sort of thing do you shoot?
Any regrets?

What were the pros and cons of the move?

I'm asking people who moved rather than have it as a second system as they had hard choices to make.

I had planned to post this in the XT-1\2\X-T10 thread as I have a XT-1 but thought I'd throw the net wider.

As a little back story I got the X-T1 to use as an adapted lens camera for a bit of an experiment, but had worries over the battery life (which have now largely been resolved after finding out that as an amateur I'll not often need a second battery let alone the four I now have) and have come to enjoy the system, especially after getting the 18-135 native lens, but I suspected I might after having an E-M1 in my past and really got on with the EVF and all it has to offer.

Cheers for reading.
 
Been away and back from FF a couple times.

Reason was mainly that I just didn't want to lug a huge camera around with me.

In the end though, although a lot of the small cameras coming out are great(especially Fuji's for their gorgeous JPEG's), they just don't and can't do what FF does. [emoji7]
 
drb5 said:
Been away and back from FF a couple times.

Reason was mainly that I just didn't want to lug a huge camera around with me.

In the end though, although a lot of the small cameras coming out are great(especially Fuji's for their gorgeous JPEG's), they just don't and can't do what FF does. [emoji7]
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Which is what?

I own all manner of systems and I'm not sure I can think of one thing the pre production XT2 I tried can't do that my other cameras can? :sneaky:
 
minnnt said:
Lols... See you back in a FF owners thread next year Johnny boy... :D
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I didn't say I was leaving... yet ;)

I could just do with giving it a real chance and that means getting the right bits and if possible learning from others who've done a similar transition.
 
Damn.. Did it get a cake?

Anyway in your long line did you try Fuji?
 
Mainly the size and weight of a 5dmkii and associated lenses, getting older and shoulders/back not what they were.

Bought a refurbished X-E1 and 18-55mm to try it out, really pleased with the results and knew what the future was for me.

Sold up and went for it about two years ago now, no regrets at all, getting much more use from my kit now it's no longer a chore lugging it all about.

Did keep my original 5d, but it just sat in the cupboard so that went as well in the end. One thing I haven't done is buy any of the latest large lenses such as 16-55 and 50-140. Want to keep it small and light, to be honest results from the lenses I have are more than acceptable.

Admittedly don't shoot sports or any other action although did use the X-T1 for the Vulcan's last flight and pleasantly surprised with the photos.

Personally think it was a great move and glad I didn't try to keep a foot in both camps, pros and cons for both systems just have to pick what's right for you
 
I originally moved from a D800 to the X-Pro1 a few years back, and within the past few weeks moved again from owning a D810 to the X-Pro1 and these lenses;

XF10-24 - XF35 - XF56 -XF55-200 more to come.....

I just love and adore what the Fuji X-Pro1 does (for me), weights not a problem as I know a lot of folk change because of the weight of a DSLR etc...
There's a fantastic X community out there, and Fuji seem to listen to their X shooters, the X system is now very Pro with excellent choice of a huge variety of fast/quality XF glass........and many X bodies to choose from.

I'm a happy bunny (again).

Regards;
Peter
 
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Yup. Great system, let down by support from Adobe. I found the files were handled poorly in Lr. The lenses were better than the bodies, but hopefully the X-T2 will change that.

Here are my thoughts on the lenses i owned:

18mm F2 - Brilliant. Loved it, lightweight, good optically and pretty cheap second hand.
23mm F1.4 - Great lens. Quite big but focused well and was super sharp wide open.
35mm F1.4 - Absolutely f*****g crap. Soft wide open, noisy and pretty slow to focus. The v4 firmware helped with the speed but they were still s***e. I had 2 copies and both were the same although alot of people love it.
60mm F2.4 - Nice. Slow ass focusing, not the quietest but optically sweet. 1:2 macro which could come in handy.
50-140mm F2.8 - The Daddy! Just a brilliant lens all round. Fast to focus, sharp, pleasing bokeh and the TC's are available for it now which will come in handy for shooting more sport stuff.


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Unless it fits in your pocket I don't see any real world difference between a DSLR and CSC. Its nice it's a bit smaller and lighter but they don't get anymore airing than a DSLR gets.
 
Excellent, thanks guys.

Especially the lens reviews - I did have the 35mm on my list, but given that I'll at the very list give it much more research - thanks.

BTW coincidentally on my other screen I've just whittled down 195 shots of motocross to 25 as I thought I'd try my hand at panning - granted the other 170 were ditched because focus was missed, but hey.
 
rjbell said:
Unless it fits in your pocket I don't see any real world difference between a DSLR and CSC. Its nice it's a bit smaller and lighter but they don't get anymore airing than a DSLR gets.
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Three letters - at least on the ones I've used - E, V and F - getting a WISYWIG view along with a live histogram as you shoot is worth it by itself.
 
JohnN said:
Three letters - at least on the ones I've used - E, V and F - getting a WISYWIG view along with a live histogram as you shoot is worth it by itself.
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Yeah I like a evf myself.

As long as you're not thinking I'll be carrying it everywhere if I downsize because you probably won't.
 
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Sorry, what do you mean?

I meant EVF as in electronic view finder thats built into the camera, did you mean an external monitor?
 
JohnN said:
Sorry, what do you mean?

I meant EVF as in electronic view finder thats built into the camera, did you mean an external monitor?
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He just means the camera in general. A lot of people assume they'll suddenly take their camera everywhere with them but it's rarely the case.
 
Ah, yes now I see - thanks both.

BTW you mentioned how Lightroom handles colour, did you know that the RAWs keep the colour profiles in them? Quite handy too, nice to play with the settings after the fact.
 
Not the colour, just the actual quality. Quite painterly if you look closely, almost like artifacts. Most people love the files but it put me off big time personally.

As for panning, i found it pretty easy once you get used to the EVF blackout. @G.K.Jnr. has told me that the X-T2 nearly eliminates this issue. The new v4 firmware should help you and ensure that you're using CH and AF-C. The 10fps is great if you're a machine gunner.
 
Yes, I know what you;re saying - I just presumed thats how they were, oddly it was exactly that that ruled out a Sony camera once - I forget which one now but I think it was one of the bridges - thankfully its not bothering me too much on the Fuji, maybe I'm getting less picky and giving it some cuts due to the resolution.

Well here was my take on panning, nowhere near as good as yours David, but not too shabby for a first go.


Motocross by John Norton, on Flickr
 
rjbell said:
Yeah sorry should have used some punctuation :) I've sorted it now.
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haha, much better - thanks :D

I do carry it more, but you're right the difference between small and pocketable is vast and a few people just don't get that, or just buy really big coats!
 
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JohnN said:
Yes, I know what you;re saying - I just presumed thats how they were, oddly it was exactly that that ruled out a Sony camera once - I forget which one now but I think it was one of the bridges - thankfully its not bothering me too much on the Fuji, maybe I'm getting less picky and giving it some cuts due to the resolution.

Well here was my take on panning, nowhere near as good as yours David, but not too shabby for a first go.


Motocross by John Norton, on Flickr
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Works for me John. Only on my phone but it looks great. If you want a few tips, take a look at our very own pan master, Chris Harrison's website http://www.fujifun.net/ - there is a blog on there about shooting motorsport with Fuji. @ukaskew
 
JohnN said:
haha, much better - thanks :D

I do carry it more, but you're right the difference between small and pocketable is vast and a few people just don't get that, or just buy really big coats!
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The bum bags back in fashion!

What do you mean my Fujifilms resolution? It's compatible to any other apsc isn't it?
 
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I just meant 16 MP, rather than the twenty odd I'm used to, a bit restrictive when cropping, still that's sorted on the Pro2 and XT2
 
I don't think I could go from my current FF camera to a 16MP Fuji camera again, although I haven't played with the new 24MP sensor
 
Just the XT1 and 18-135 as well as a couple of adapted lenses Fuji side, Nikon wise the D750 and a few lenses, 35 and 85 1.8, Tammy 70-200 & 90mm macro plus a few more.
 
There are pros and cons to every system as you know, John. I'm pee'd off with the poor DR of the em1 + the noise on LE + the s***e tracking.

So I'll get a d500/750

But then I'll have to buy 14 dogs to lug everything around, miss the IBIS and have to fine tune every flippin' lens I buy

In the words of Nottingham's finest ginger @minnnt "meh"
 
lol, yes I know - the quest for the perfect camera.

I think its just about finding a system that doesn't p*** you off too much.
 
minnnt said:
Works for me John. Only on my phone but it looks great. If you want a few tips, take a look at our very own pan master, Chris Harrison's website http://www.fujifun.net/ - there is a blog on there about shooting motorsport with Fuji. @ukaskew
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Back on the PC now, so having a look at fujifun and the guide, looks like its going to be a very interesting read - thanks.
 
The 23mm and the 56mm were enough for me to not look back. I can scarcely believe I even owned a D600 until I check my old bank statements; it was just too weighty and conspicuous to bother with. I take my x-pro1 with the 23mm attached with me pretty much whenever I Ieave the house now unless I'm going out drinking. I like to shoot unusual things that catch my eye, the kind of stuff that people might whip out a smartphone to shoot.
 
frod said:
The 23mm and the 56mm were enough for me to not look back. I can scarcely believe I even owned a D600 until I check my old bank statements; it was just too weighty and conspicuous to bother with. I take my x-pro1 with the 23mm attached with me pretty much whenever I Ieave the house now unless I'm going out drinking. I like to shoot unusual things that catch my eye, the kind of stuff that people might whip out a smartphone to shoot.
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You should buy a Galaxy S7, they're better than most compacts according to a recent thread on here. ;)
 
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