A query about bus, bike and taxi only lanes

[posiview]

It's public transport because you pay a third party a carriage fee.
Not a tough theory to grasp

Can they use the lanes if they do not have passengers onboard?

 

[Nikon_Nick]

This it's more than just TFL do try an think outside of London, I know some from London don't realise life exists outside of the M25 in saying that please note I have no idea of your location as I've not looked

No, im not from London , but surely that same kind of set up exists elsewhere. Black cabs licensed by local authorities?

 

[boyfalldown]

No, im not from London , but surely that same kind of set up exists elsewhere. Black cabs licensed by local authorities?

London black cabs are special..........read into that what you will

 

[MWHCVT]

No, im not from London , but surely that same kind of set up exists elsewhere. Black cabs licensed by local authorities?

It depends on the local authority, such as locally we have the main city that has both hackney Carages (black cabs) but also licence taxis (private hire) where all all the surrounding towns only have hackney Carages that perform the joint role of flag down and private hire so it can be a bit odd...but really defining type of taxi is some what semantics as regardless of if you have to book it or not it's still a personal transport service, where as buses are communal, a taxi is a door to door service in the same way a private car is, where as a bus is predetermined

 

[Nikon_Nick]

London black cabs are special..........read into that what you will

Well they are certainly iconic...is that what you mean?

 

[boyfalldown]

Well they are certainly iconic...is that what you mean?

Mmmmm no....

 

[nilagin]

That still doesn't stop them being a private on demand service as apposed to a scheduled service, why should a individual or small group get preference over the general driving public...the essence of a bus lane is to ensure that a scheduled service remains just that, on schedule so that the public know it is a reliable service that they can confidently use for travel needs

On time? Are you still talking about buses?

 

[Steve Smith]

On time? Are you still talking about buses?

Quite a few years ago, I watched a whole Open University programme on the reason why three buses eventually turn up at once in busy cities. The reason is very logical and makes perfect sense. I might bore you all with an explanation later!


Steve.

 

[LongLensPhotography]

they should ban taxis, I mean the TX black cabs specifically. They are thieving, slow and environmentally polluting old death traps. All new taxis should be electric.

 

[posiview]

they should ban taxis, I mean the TX black cabs specifically. They are thieving, slow and environmentally polluting old death traps. All new taxis should be electric.

I've just seen your other thread about speed camera. ... you have a bad week

 

[mattyg]

Round here its cheaper for 2 people to get a taxi into town than use a bus.

 

[Nod]

Same here.

Private hire cars are allowed to use the bus lanes (which cause traffic problems since they've reduced what used to be 2 lanes to one and an empty space for 99% of the time...) but not use the pedestrianized High Street (which does allow busses). Recent redevelopment of the city centre ahs also completely screwed up traffic flow and can involve an extra mile or so along roads with heavy footfall and braindead pedestrians. Won't go into the traffic lights on so many roundabouts other than to say that when the lights fail (a regular occurance!), the traffic flows much better.

 

[Byker28i]

Who cares - Motorbikes can use them

 

[frank]

What amazes me is the amount of car drivers who won't use that bus lane outwith the restricted times., a single lane of traffic half a mile long and the inside lying empty. They would rather sit in a queue half a mile long.

 

[nilagin]

What amazes me is titself. Also their is ae amount of car drivers who won't use that bus lane outwith the restricted times., a single lane of traffic half a mile long and the inside lying empty. They would rather sit in a queue half a mile long.

In my experience that's because the signs wwith the bus lane times are small. Drivers rarely see them whilst having to concentrate on the road and other traffic.

 

[frank]

Up here in edinburgh they are a good size and clearly displayed, if a driver can't see or read them they shouldn't be driving

 

[Nod]

Who cares - Motorbikes can use them

Dang! Where's my Highway Code? Can we?

 

[Byker28i]

If it says so - a lot do now

 

[Nod]

Ah. Unfortunately, the ones here state busses, lorries and permit holders only.

 

[boliston]

What amazes me is the amount of car drivers who won't use that bus lane outwith the restricted times., a single lane of traffic half a mile long and the inside lying empty. They would rather sit in a queue half a mile long.

This leaves a nice empty lane for people who can read signs

 

[LongLensPhotography]

taxis do not take up valuable parking space in city centres

Instead they keep going back and forth and heavily polluting and causing further congestion. The TX stale cart is the worst example of them all. Until they all modernise for 21st age and go clean they are not really welcome. What is wrong with parking in the centre anyway? Not the stupid inhumane parking meters, but the concept? The councils need to stop being selfish and greedy for the public good.

 

[viv1969]

.............. Not the stupid inhumane parking meters,

Inhumane? Seriously?

 

[LongLensPhotography]

Inhumane? Seriously?

How would you react if you had to pay x to cross a street, y to walk past that building, etc? You are using infrastructure and causing wear and tear? This is how I feel about parking charges that may cost in excess of my rent. So far in my whole life I had paid £35 to the thieves, mostly through my own fault. Parking in front of somebodies house is the answer.

 

[viv1969]

How would you react if you had to pay x to cross a street, y to walk past that building, etc? You are using infrastructure and causing wear and tear? This is how I feel about parking charges that may cost in excess of my rent. So far in my whole life I had paid £35 to the thieves, mostly through my own fault. Parking in front of somebodies house is the answer.

You are precious!

Dad....can I keep him? Pleeease???

 

[boyfalldown]

How would you react if you had to pay x to cross a street, y to walk past that building, etc? You are using infrastructure and causing wear and tear? This is how I feel about parking charges that may cost in excess of my rent. So far in my whole life I had paid £35 to the thieves, mostly through my own fault. Parking in front of somebodies house is the answer.

£35 is in excess of your rent? Blimey, where do you live?

 

[Byker28i]

Ah. Unfortunately, the ones here state busses, lorries and permit holders only.

Ah Swindon brought it in a few years ago after trials, I know Bristol, London, plymouth do also.

 

[Nod]

You are precious!

Dad....can I keep him? Pleeease???

Only if you have him fixed and make him wear a collar with bells on.

@Byker28i, I'll try to remember that if I take the bike down to Plymouth!

 

[Steve Smith]

Can they use the lanes if they do not have passengers onboard?

It has to be on a scheduled service. The number of passengers is irrelevant.


Steve.

 

[LongLensPhotography]

£35 is in excess of your rent? Blimey, where do you live?

35 a day certainly would be and this is how much a patch of concrete is costs in London or Bristol. Do you enjoy paying it?

 

[boyfalldown]

35 a day certainly would be and this is how much a patch of concrete is costs in London or Bristol. Do you enjoy paying it?

never paid one.(assuming you mean parking fines). I've had a few issued in error (which I'm never wonderfully happy about) but they've always been overturned at the first stage of an appeal. Still not sure how thats more then your rent?

 

[viv1969]

35 a day certainly would be and this is how much a patch of concrete is costs in London or Bristol. Do you enjoy paying it?

I thought you were in or around Glasgow.
What have London or Bristol got to do with the price of fish?

 

[LongLensPhotography]

I thought you were in or around Glasgow.
What have London or Bristol got to do with the price of fish?

Oh so Glasgow is like a jail then. Once in - never out! You scare me

 

[viv1969]

Oh so Glasgow is like a jail then.

You said that sunshine...no-one else (Except, perhaps, ST4)

 

[LongLensPhotography]

never paid one.(assuming you mean parking fines). I've had a few issued in error (which I'm never wonderfully happy about) but they've always been overturned at the first stage of an appeal. Still not sure how thats more then your rent?

No. This is how much car parks may cost for a whole working day. I hope I don't need to point to specific examples. The thieving box on the street only normally allows up to couple hours at exhorbitant rates

 

[viv1969]

No. This is how much car parks may cost for a whole working day. I hope I don't need to point to specific examples. The thieving box on the street only normally allows up to couple hours at exhorbitant rates

Oh come on, enough already.
The "box" is just a box. It is neither a thief, nor can it allow or disallow anything.
You feed it because you choose to.
If it bothered you that much you would park somewhere for which there is no charge, and then either walk the rest of the way, or take a little folding bike out of the boot and ride.
If you're going to spend the entire weekend ranting like a psycho off his Haldol, can we at least have fair warning?

 

[boyfalldown]

No. This is how much car parks may cost for a whole working day. I hope I don't need to point to specific examples. The thieving box on the street only normally allows up to couple hours at exhorbitant rates

Don't use them then simples

 

[LongLensPhotography]

Don't use them then simples

I don't. However the obvious must be stated at some point as everyone else it too comfortable being ripped off and skinned to the bone.

 

[boyfalldown]

I don't.

Why go on then. Christ I though I went off on one sometimes

 

[Nod]

£5 for all day parking on Saturdays, £3 on Sundays. The most central car park in the city. Limited spaces and proceeds to charity. When weather permits though, I take a bike in - free parking anywhere where permitted to park.

 

[ianp5a]

Cities have to make decisions to keep the city functioning. So that may be a reason to allow taxis in bus lanes. A city has to be attractive to businesses to bring in the money.

I hate bus lanes with a passion, they just cause congestion. Hate buses too.

Busses take cars off of the road and reduce congestion. So you should be thankful for them. And having a lane to ensure they get through at peak times, makes buses more attractive to people who may otherwise be sitting in the car in front of you. Hooray for the bus!

How would you react if you had to pay x to cross a street, y to walk past that building, etc? You are using infrastructure and causing wear and tear? This is how I feel about parking charges that may cost in excess of my rent. So far in my whole life I had paid £35 to the thieves, mostly through my own fault. Parking in front of somebodies house is the answer.

Part of the reasoning for parking charges is to dissuade motorists from deciding to drive in the city. Similarly, bus lanes and other restrictions on traffic flow make people think twice before driving into town. If motorists think they can easily flit across town and park outside M&S, they will do so. Thus luring more and more people in, until it is congested with no convenient parking.
In my city it'd be a nightmare with a car, compared to the underground that gets me across town listening to my headphones and not concentrating on avoiding accidents.