A little rant regarding smoking.

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Since the new laws were introduced regarding smoking in indoor public areas the smokers have been forced outside the premises.
My little rant is that I can no longer enjoy a coffee or lunch outside cafes and restaurants because I now have to suffer the drifting tobacco smoke instead of enjoying the fresh air as I used to.
Fair enough the non smokers have a choice, either sit inside or outside, the smokers have no choice but to sit outside.
So what is the answer, should the smoking ban be extended or should we, the non smokers, be more tolerant of this "compromise".
Personally, I think it should be extended to include such areas.

Awaits flak from the smokers and support from the non smokers.
 
Sit up wind of the smokers :lol:
 
Galaxy66 said:
So what is the answer, should the smoking ban be extended or should we, the non smokers, be more tolerant of this "compromise".
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Or ban non-smokers from beer gardens :thumbs:

Seriously, be careful what you wish for or as well as a smoke-free pub you may well end up with a beer-free one as well.

The smoke ban already hits pubs' takings (more with country/rural pubs than town/city ones), the rocketing cost of fuel (British Gas just announced bills going up 30% :eek:) affects not only the amount of money customers have to spend but will also be pushing up food and drink prices so pubs are going to be struggling and many - again rural pubs more so - are already borderline for profitability
 
The event that made me make this controversial post happened yesterday in Newcastle. For those that know the area we decided to have a coffee at the new Starbucks in Eldon Square and my wife went inside to order while I found two seats outside in the glorious sunshine, no sooner had I sat down that I realised I was surrounded by smokers forcing me to retreat inside.
There was two separate seating areas either side of the entrance so they could have made one side smoking and the other non smoking there but depending on the layout of such outside areas this would not always be possible at other establishments.
 
I like the way that our streets are now so much more attractive, what with the large piles of fag ends outside every office. I suppose the upside is the sight of a group of soaking wet, pasty-faced, smokers huddled together in the rain, desperately trying to extract that last draw from the soggy Embassy Regal they are nursing:lol::thumbs:
 
As a non smoker, I can't abide having to walk through the clouds of smoke just outside shops or shopping malls. I hate the smell and I certainly don't want a lung full of it thanks.
As far as the original topic, I can't think of anything worse than having to sit eating in a cloud of smoke especially outside. So I agree they should have seperate areas. But then I always seem to be in the unfortunate position that smoke always seems to blow my way. :(
 
I wouldn't worry too much folks. By the time the government has screwed a few more tax hikes out of us to spend their way out of the recession they created no one will be able to afford to smoke.

Oh, and just wait for the winter to come. With rising energy costs I doubt pubs will be turning on their outdoor heaters, so that should see a few less smokers. Of course you'll be paying a lot more for your favourite tipple just so the pubs can survive with less customers. That's if you can afford to go out after you've paid the extra tax and fuel costs ;)

Isn't it time we had a general election?
 
I wouldn't worry too much, smokers are dying out. (pun intended).

I just don't understand why people smoke :shrug: Half of all smokers will die early because of smoking...........someone please explain why they do it. :shrug:
 
JumboBeef said:
I just don't understand why people smoke :shrug: Half of all smokers will die early because of smoking...........someone please explain why they do it. :shrug:
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Err, the addiction to the drug.
 
hepburn said:
Isn't it time we had a general election?
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Do you honestly think David "call me Dave" Cameron, will make a better job of things? I'm still trying to fathom out what the man's policies are - all he seems to be capable of doing is criticising Brown. What will he do when it's him in the hot seat and he's the one being blamed for everything that happens in the country? :thinking:

Cameron is just a Tony Blair clone, in fact Rory Bremmner actually commented that there was little point in him continuing to do his Blair impression as Cameron was so much better at it than him :lol:

The only reason we've had Labour in power for so long is that people were sick of the last Tory government, just like they are sick of this one.

Politicians are all the same nowadays, it really makes no difference whose name is on the door.
 
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nilagin said:
As a non smoker, I can't abide having to walk through the clouds of smoke just outside shops or shopping malls. I hate the smell and I certainly don't want a lung full of it thanks.
As far as the original topic, I can't think of anything worse than having to sit eating in a cloud of smoke especially outside. So I agree they should have seperate areas. But then I always seem to be in the unfortunate position that smoke always seems to blow my way. :(
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:agree:
 
A lot of the pubs where I live (or at east the ones I choose to frequent) do now have seperate smoking and non-smoking outdoor areas. And do you know what? They're always busy!

As I see it, pubs need to look at things like this to accomodate the needs of the 2 groups. It's just a higher level of customer service and people will pay to enjoy it.
 
JumboBeef said:
I wouldn't worry too much, smokers are dying out. (pun intended).

I just don't understand why people smoke :shrug: Half of all smokers will die early because of smoking...........someone please explain why they do it. :shrug:
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Its not just smokers.

According to this report 79,000 non smokers die from passive smoking each year in Europe:
http://dev.ersnet.org/201-passive-smoking.htm

Thats 1519 per week of non smokers that are victims.

Thats the same number of people as 10 fully loaded Easyjet Boeing 737 or airbus A319 flights crashing every single week...


Mark.
 
Why do people drink too much-or eat too much or any other vice. easy to judge others. I would like to know how they prove someone has died because of passive smoking. We are poisoned everyday by polution from car fumes and everything else.

Whilst I welcomed the ban on smoking even though im a smoker-not nice to sit in a pub without being able to see let alone breath. outside is outside and i think we have made enough concessions to protect others.
 
jimybell said:
Sit up wind of the smokers and pass wind.
Jim
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:lol: :lol: :lol: Can passive farting be hazardous to health too?

I used to be a smoker, and still quite like the smell of a lit cigarette, I know its bad, But I don't and haven't ever liked smoke in an eating environment. I was always considerate to anyone dining.
 
digitalmaniac said:
Why do people drink too much-or eat too much or any other vice. easy to judge others.
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The difference is that it's rare that someone who is eating fish and chips to come over and keep rubbing their fish all over your clothes and hair and stuffing the chips up your nose :naughty:
 
Flash In The Pan said:
The difference is that it's rare that someone who is eating fish and chips to come over and keep rubbing their fish all over your clothes and hair and stuffing the chips up your nose :naughty:
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I think comparing touch with smell is a bit off base. Both have smells associated with them and I can understand some people not liking one or either of them.

The reality in the Uk is the anti smoking brigade have forced smokers outside. They should now accept responsibility for their actions. Had the smoking ban allowed some premises to choose their own smoking policy I doubt we'd have so many smokers outdoors upsetting the very people who put them there. :shake:
 
hepburn said:
I think comparing touch with smell is a bit off base. Both have smells associated with them and I can understand some people not liking one or either of them.
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Okay, let me rephrase it

The difference is that it's rare that someone who is eating fish and chips to come over and keep rubbing their fish all over your clothes and hair (so that you go home at the end of the night reeking of fish and chips) and stuffing the chips up yourholding the bag of chips in front of your face, so that you have to breath in the smell

Better? ;)

The reality in the Uk is the anti smoking brigade have forced smokers outside. They should now accept responsibility for their actions. Had the smoking ban allowed some premises to choose their own smoking policy I doubt we'd have so many smokers outdoors upsetting the very people who put them there. :shake:
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They could always try and quit. Then they wouldn't have to go outdoors to smoke in the first place........
 
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I agree that it's not great to sit and eat or drink in a fug of ciggy smoke but I do have sympathy with smokers. They've been battered by the government from both sides, charged vast amounts of money for the privilege of being shunned and outcast and still they get flack from all others around them.

It's a lonely place to be with that little stick, especially as whatever they tell you otherwise, 9 out of 10 smokers hate the bloody things (and themselves) as much, if not more, than the non smokers.

So, next time you see some poor little soul sent out for a puff, give them a little smile, it's not easy you know. :D
 
My point was plain and simple-with regard to eating too much or drinking too much people die because of this as in the post regarding smokers dying out.

People getting drunk does affect others every day. Pollution makes your clothes smell but I dont hear people calling out for factories to close because of it.

The government allow smoking to occur and as so we should have some rights and not to be made to feel completely scum of the nation. We smoke outside as it is for pitys sake-isnt that enough.
 
It won't be long before the smoking ban is retracted. They're considering it in Germany already. It felt weird in Switzerland last year to see people lighting up in public places, indoors.
 
I vote all car owners turn off their engines when at standstill so I don't have to breathe in their pollutants.

I vote all emergency vehicles stop using their sirens and polluting my ears.

I vote everyone refrains from farting when i'm in the elevator.

I vote for anything and everything that stops my rights being violated.

What's that? An open public place did you say? You want me to stop taking photo's of you because you don't like it? Well tough, you can't stop me :D

Will the anti smoking brigade please board the nearest ferry and go straight to the isle of wight. Do not stop at go. Do not collect 200 squids. Do not linger near the cows as they may pollute your immediate environment :D

ps: Flash, yes, a much better answer. Thank you :)
 
It won't be long before the smoking ban is retracted.
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I just can't see it personally. If there ends up being less smokers then the duty will be pushed up on those still left buying. If there is still a cash shortfall at the treasury, then the government will just screw the motorist some more.

Unless you think there are any other motivating factors here. :shrug:
 
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I vote all car owners turn off their engines when at standstill so I don't have to breathe in their pollutants.
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You have to do that up here already, if you're caught sitting at the roadside with the engine running you get an on-the-spot fine.....
 
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